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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
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Somewhat more seriously, I've been reading about nantennas for solar
power. With 85% theoretical efficiency, it sure looks promising.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nantenna
http://www.inl.gov/pdfs/nantenna.pdf
Maybe there's a place for RF engineers in alternative energy. All I
need to do is build a 3,000GHz antenna farm and find a diode that
works at that frequency.


The principle of nantenas is the same as the crystal radio.


Not quite.

The size of the antenna must be below 1/2 WL.


Nope.

For RF each diode is O.K.


Babble.

The question is if the electrons flow into the ground.


The question is if you can tie your own shoes.

Do you know the answer?


Yes, most all of us know the answers.

It is only you that is totally lost in babbling nonsense.


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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But is the another phenomenon. The Luxembourg effect.
The dipole radiate the doubled frequency.
S*


That is NOT the Luxembourg Effect. The Luxembourg effect is/was cross
modulation of 2 stations due to non-linearities in the atmosphere.


It is an explanation.
The Luxembourg effect WAS the receiving of LW from Luxembourg mast on the MW
receivers tuned to the doubled frequency..
S*


The effect has nothing what so ever to do with antennas.

You are an idiot.



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"Ptolemy chose the earth centric model" means that all measurements must
be done from the Earth.
All astronomers before Ptolemy (and he) known that the planets orbit the
Sun.
S*

Oops - no. Ptolemy's earth centric model meant that the sun and other
planets orbited the sun.


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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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"Jeff" napisal w wiadomosci
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But is the another phenomenon. The Luxembourg effect.
The dipole radiate the doubled frequency.
S*


That is NOT the Luxembourg Effect. The Luxembourg effect is/was cross
modulation of 2 stations due to non-linearities in the atmosphere.


It is an explanation.
The Luxembourg effect WAS the receiving of LW from Luxembourg mast on the
MW receivers tuned to the doubled frequency..
S*

Ah - so Wikipedia is incorrect. It reads " ... Luxemburg-Gorky effect is a
phenomenon of cross modulation between two radio waves ... ".


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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Ptolemy chose the earth centric model.

Today astronomers do the same. The Sun is too hot to make the
measurements from it.


Oh dear - no. Astronomers to-day know that the earth orbits around the
sun.
It is incorrect to say that "the sun is too hot to make the measurements".
Scientists make plenty of observations of the sun (sunspots, CME and so
on).


All measurements were, are, and will be done from the Earth.


This idiot is so blindingly stupid he doesn't know we now have space craft
and automated measuring devices.

One wonders if he gets around his village on horseback.

Nah, he's too stupid to be able to ride something as smart as a horse.

Maybe a goat cart if someone else hooks up the goat for him and steers.







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On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:51:48 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
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The principle of nantenas is the same as the crystal radio.
The size of the antenna must be below 1/2 WL.


Please read the PDF I included. The length of the dipole can be any
multiple of 1/2 wavelength. It can also be a loop antenna. What's
critical is the spacing between the antenna and the underlying ground
plane, which form a resonant cavity at optical frequencies.

For RF each diode is O.K.


Please read the Wikipedia article:
The large loss in power is a result of the junction
capacitance (also known as parasitic capacitance) found
in p-n junction diodes and Schottky diodes, which can
only operate effectively at frequencies less than 5 THz.[3]
The ideal wavelengths of 0.4-1.6 um correspond to
frequencies of approximately 190-750 THz, which is much
larger than the capabilities of typical diodes. etc...
This isn't going to work with ordinary diodes.

The question is if the electrons flow into the ground.


Nope. The question is whether there are any electrons involved. There
are none.

Do you know the answer?


Yes... I know everything. If you unable to form a suitable opinion, I
would be happy to supply one for you.

Everyone constantly repeating that there are no electrons falling to
the ground or spewn into the air doesn't seem to have much of an
effect on you. You are also apparently incapable of answering my
question (multiple times). I see no indication that you have read,
much less understand, any of the references and explanations supplied
for your benefit. You are therefore hopeless and a waste of time.

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On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:29:39 -0000, wrote:

Maybe a goat cart if someone else hooks up the goat for him and steers.


Amazing what can be found with Google:
http://www.durabletoys.com/product_images/uploaded_images/gregory-and-goat-cart-2004.jpg

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On 6/2/2012 3:09 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
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My guess is that the quote from Wiki relates to vacuum tubes. Ah yes, it
does. Shall we put the farmer's barn into a large vacuum?


" He also used Geissler tubes"

Do you think that in air no field electron emission?
S*



None, zero, zip, nada.

You are wrong, incorrect, ignorant, off base. clueless, etc.

tom
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On 6/2/2012 12:51 PM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
"Jeff napisal w wiadomosci
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Somewhat more seriously, I've been reading about nantennas for solar
power. With 85% theoretical efficiency, it sure looks promising.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nantenna
http://www.inl.gov/pdfs/nantenna.pdf
Maybe there's a place for RF engineers in alternative energy. All I
need to do is build a 3,000GHz antenna farm and find a diode that
works at that frequency.


The principle of nantenas is the same as the crystal radio.
The size of the antenna must be below 1/2 WL.

For RF each diode is O.K.

The question is if the electrons flow into the ground.

Do you know the answer?
S*



Yes I know the answer.

No.

tom
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On 6/2/2012 12:58 PM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
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But is the another phenomenon. The Luxembourg effect.
The dipole radiate the doubled frequency.
S*


That is NOT the Luxembourg Effect. The Luxembourg effect is/was cross
modulation of 2 stations due to non-linearities in the atmosphere.


It is an explanation.
The Luxembourg effect WAS the receiving of LW from Luxembourg mast on the MW
receivers tuned to the doubled frequency..
S*



What a maroon.

tom
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