UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

In message , Ian
writes
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
. ..

As a normal in the all country is leakage. Corona is from time to time.

"Physics, Electricity . the loss of all or part of a useful agent, as of
the electric current that flows through an insulator"

In overhead power supply the air is an insulator.

The both (corona and leakage) are nonsymmetric in AC.
So the ground is the only remedy.
S*
Hello Szczepan.
Neither you nor I would want to be near any "leaky" insulator. You appear
not to understand the definition and meaning of "insulator". Your past
behaviour indicates that there is no pint in trying to explain it to you.
All I will suggest is that you try to acquire and read a textbook on the
subject.

Regards, Ian.

ps: In the Subject line of this thread, who is the "UK earthling"?

That is yet further evidence that he is on another world (if not even in
another universe) where the Laws of Physics are quite different from
here. Maybe that's why I was subconsciously prompted to ask him what
colour the sky was in his world.
--
Ian

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Ian Jackson" napisal w wiadomosci
...
In message , Ian
writes
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
...

As a normal in the all country is leakage. Corona is from time to time.

"Physics, Electricity . the loss of all or part of a useful agent, as of
the electric current that flows through an insulator"

In overhead power supply the air is an insulator.

The both (corona and leakage) are nonsymmetric in AC.
So the ground is the only remedy.
S*
Hello Szczepan.
Neither you nor I would want to be near any "leaky" insulator. You appear
not to understand the definition and meaning of "insulator". Your past
behaviour indicates that there is no pint in trying to explain it to you.
All I will suggest is that you try to acquire and read a textbook on the
subject.

Regards, Ian.

ps: In the Subject line of this thread, who is the "UK earthling"?

That is yet further evidence that he is on another world (if not even in
another universe) where the Laws of Physics are quite different from here.

What means "here"?
All the Laws of Physics I "cope and paste" from Wiki. I am in "Wiki's
world".

Maybe that's why I was subconsciously prompted to ask him what colour the
sky was in his world.

You are fluent in English.
Write the color in "here" and I tell you if in the Wilki world is the same.
S*

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .

What means "here"?
All the Laws of Physics I "cope and paste" from Wiki. I am in "Wiki's
world".

Maybe that's why I was subconsciously prompted to ask him what colour the
sky was in his world.

You are fluent in English.
Write the color in "here" and I tell you if in the Wilki world is the
same.
S*

Hello chaps. To-day's prize goes to all of you who said that Szczepan didn't
understand what he was putting in his own postings. The prize is 1,000
electrons and you'll find them here *
It's up to you to extract them. :-)
73, Ian.

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

What means "here"?

He means here in the real world, which you are not a part of.

All the Laws of Physics I "cope and paste" from Wiki. I am in "Wiki's
world".

No, you are in your own little world.

You have no understanding whatsoever of anything you get from Wiki.

Your post from Wiki are always followed by stupid, ignorant comments that
prove have no understanding whatsoever of anything you quoted.

Maybe that's why I was subconsciously prompted to ask him what colour the
sky was in his world.

You are fluent in English.
Write the color in "here" and I tell you if in the Wilki world is the same.
S*

He is semi-politely telling you that you are in your own little world of
stupidity and ignorance.

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .


"Ian Jackson" napisal w wiadomosci
...
In message , Szczepan Bialek
writes

napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"J. C. Mc Laughlin" napisal w wiadomosci
.. .

An earthed wire is run above the HV 3-phase and does a good job of
providing a low impedance path for lighting. One side of the HV to LV
transformer is earthed as well as the center tap of the secondary
(Neutral). The neutral is again earthed at the service entrance as is
one
end of the green wire running unimpeded to every human touchable
conductor.

Is something flowing in the all earth wires?

If you actually knew anything about electricity, which you don't, you
would know that under normal circumstances there is no current in the
earth ground connection.

In Poland under normal circumstances always is the electrons net flow into
the ground.

The earth ground connection is for safety and current will only flow if
something is wrong.

Where is such situation?

This is also why radios powered by AC are connected to earth ground; it
is
for safety against electrocution if something in the equipment breaks
and
has NOTHING to do with the operation of the radio as a radio.

In Poland in the all power AC lines is an exccess of electrons.
The ground is necessary.

The details are such that more electrons is gain in one half of the cycle
than jump off in the second.

What the things are in your country?
S*

And what colour is the sky in your world?

# It is not easy to describe it.
# But in Poland the amateur-radio dipoles consists of the one radiator and
the
# counterpoise.
# Simply speaking it is the Marconi antenna with the one radial.
# S*

One suggestion is that you talk with some technically competent people in
Poland and describe your definition of dipoles.

Most likely, they will not agree with your definition.

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

Wayne wrote:


"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .


# It is not easy to describe it.
# But in Poland the amateur-radio dipoles consists of the one radiator and
the
# counterpoise.
# Simply speaking it is the Marconi antenna with the one radial.
# S*

One suggestion is that you talk with some technically competent people in
Poland and describe your definition of dipoles.

Most likely, they will not agree with your definition.

Most likely, there is no one in Poland that would willingly talk to this
babbling idiot.

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Ian" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .

As a normal in the all country is leakage. Corona is from time to time.

"Physics, Electricity . the loss of all or part of a useful agent, as of
the electric current that flows through an insulator"

In overhead power supply the air is an insulator.

The both (corona and leakage) are nonsymmetric in AC.
So the ground is the only remedy.
S*
Hello Szczepan.
Neither you nor I would want to be near any "leaky" insulator.

Air is the "leaky" insulator.
I was many times under the 400kV line and I am still alive.
Is it dangerous in UK.

You probably do not know the difference leakage/breakdown.

You appear
not to understand the definition and meaning of "insulator". Your past
behaviour indicates that there is no point in trying to explain it to you.
All I will suggest is that you try to acquire and read a textbook on the
subject.

Textbooks are for children.
S*

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Wayne" napisal w wiadomosci
...


"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .

# But in Poland the amateur-radio dipoles consists of the one radiator and
the
# counterpoise.
# Simply speaking it is the Marconi antenna with the one radial.
# S*

One suggestion is that you talk with some technically competent people in
Poland and describe your definition of dipoles.

Most likely, they will not agree with your definition.

Somebody wrote: http://cb-wlkp.pl/viewtopic.php?t=584
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Wyslany: 2009-07-22, 23:36


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Instalacja anteny dipolowej sklada sie z:
- anteny - promiennik i przeciwwaga, które sa zbudowane z dwóch
jednakowych przewodów, lub kawalków metalu. Z racji tego, ze oba te elementy
sa identyczne (ksztalt, material, dlugosc), maja takie same parametry - sa
symetryczne.
- przewodu zasilajacego - kabel koncentryczny, w którym sygnal
przesylany jest przez zyle wewnetrzna a powraca oplotem ekranu. Oplot i zyla
wewnetrzna maja inny przekrój i ksztalt, a co za tym idzie maja inne
parametry elektryczne (np. impedancje) - sa niesymetryczne. "


And Bilou wrote: "Imagine the diameter of one half is infinite.
You now have a quarter wave over a ground plane.A well known
case."

As you see in Poland and "here" are the technically UNcompetent
people.

Do you see the difference between the Hertz dipole and the
radioamateur dipole?
S*

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

In message , Szczepan Bialek
writes



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Instalacja anteny dipolowej sklada sie z:
- anteny - promiennik i przeciwwaga, które sa zbudowane z dwóch
jednakowych przewodów, lub kawalków metalu. Z racji tego, ze oba te elementy
sa identyczne (ksztalt, material, dlugosc), maja takie same parametry - sa
symetryczne.
- przewodu zasilajacego - kabel koncentryczny, w którym sygnal
przesylany jest przez zyle wewnetrzna a powraca oplotem ekranu. Oplot i zyla
wewnetrzna maja inny przekrój i ksztalt, a co za tym idzie maja inne
parametry elektryczne (np. impedancje) - sa niesymetryczne. "


Try pasting this into Google Translate.
http://translate.google.com/#
Even allowing for the oddities, it's interesting to see the description.





--
Ian

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

On Friday, July 20, 2012 3:01:26 AM UTC-5, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
You probably do not know the difference leakage/breakdown.

Leakage (radiation/fields) is photons - breakdown (corona/arcing) is electrons.
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73, Cecil, w5dxp.com