UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
But in Poland the amateur-radio dipoles consists of the one radiator and
the
counterpoise.
Simply speaking it is the Marconi antenna with the one radial.
S*
Good morning Szczepan.
Oh dear! No, in Poland (and everywhere else for that matter) a dipole does
not consist of a radiator and a counterpoise. An aerial of that description
would not be called a dipole. I said this in a posting back on 8th July.

I shall have to doubt your claim of being "here to learn". It seems to me
that all you intend to do is repeat statements which you believe are true
and which the rest of us know to be false.

Over a period of several months you seem not to have made any progress in
understanding the dipole which is a basic aerial. I suggest that, instead of
wasting your time on this newsgroup, you visit an amateur radio station or
acquire a book on basis aerial theory. As I wrote in my posting of 8th July:
The ARRL (http://www.arrl.org/shop/Antennas/ ) and RSGB
(http://www.rsgbshop.org/acatalog/Onl...tennas_37.html) both
sell helpful books on aerials.

I hope you are able to understand this posting.
Best wishes, Ian.

ps: To the other Ian - yes, S* could be a computer program but I thought the
purpose of the Turing test was to simulate a human being. S* seems incapable
of learning. I wouldn't discount your theory but I also think that S* could
be an elderly person who has poor short term memory or could be a young
person having a (protracted) laugh or could be an alter ego of one of the
people who posts replies. I can't tell which is correct but I am happy to
try to help in a courteous and respectful manner. 73, Ian.

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"J. C. Mc Laughlin" napisal w wiadomosci
.. .

An earthed wire is run above the HV 3-phase and does a good job of
providing a low impedance path for lighting. One side of the HV to LV
transformer is earthed as well as the center tap of the secondary
(Neutral). The neutral is again earthed at the service entrance as is
one
end of the green wire running unimpeded to every human touchable
conductor.

Is something flowing in the all earth wires?

If you actually knew anything about electricity, which you don't, you
would know that under normal circumstances there is no current in the
earth ground connection.

In Poland under normal circumstances always is the electrons net flow
into
the ground.

I did something you are incapable of doing; I looked up the electrical
distribution system in Poland.

The distribution system in Poland is the same as the rest of Europe
and conforms to IEC 60446, which means, you babbling idiot, there is
no current in the ground connection unless there is a fault.

Yes. The leakages are also unsymmetric:
"Coronas may be positive or negative. This is determined by the polarity of
the voltage on the highly-curved electrode. If the curved electrode is
positive with respect to the flat electrode we say we have a positive
corona, if negative we say we have a negative corona. (See below for more
details.) The physics of positive and negative coronas are strikingly
different. This asymmetry is a result of the great difference in mass
between electrons and positively charged ions, with only the electron having
the ability to undergo a significant degree of ionising inelastic collision
at common temperatures and pressures."
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_discharge

In a power lines are also the counterpoise:
"Overhead power lines are often equipped with a ground conductor (shield
wire or overhead earth wire). A ground conductor is a conductor that is
usually grounded (earthed) at the top of the supporting structure to
minimize the likelihood of direct lightning strikes to the phase conductors.
The ground wire is also a parallel path with the earth for fault currents in
earthed neutral circuits. Very high-voltage transmission lines may have two
ground conductors."

The only difference between country are the textbooks.
You should know that before the IIWW in the Soviet Union, Germany and US
were quite different phisics.
Now are the same in the whole "free" world but the older books are also
avaiable.
S*
S*

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
Yes. The leakages are also unsymmetric:
"Coronas may be positive or negative. This is determined by the polarity
of the voltage on the highly-curved electrode.
In a power lines are also the counterpoise:
"Overhead power lines are often equipped with a ground conductor (shield
wire or overhead earth wire). A ground conductor is a conductor that is
usually grounded (earthed) at the top of the supporting structure to
minimize the likelihood of direct lightning strikes to the phase
conductors. The ground wire is also a parallel path with the earth for
fault currents in earthed neutral circuits. You should know that before
the IIWW in the Soviet Union, Germany and US were quite different phisics.
Now are the same in the whole "free" world but the older books are also
avaiable.
S*
Hello chaps. I've solved the puzzle of the what S* is. He's an out-of-work
comedy writer.
He says that in Poland they have a power supply that
operates with corona discharge as normal (I assume into the house) and
operates with lightning strikes as the norm.
Of most interest to us all will be S*'s assertion that physics varied from
country to country before WWII. Anyone know (or care to guess) who unified
physics around the world?
It's dull and drizzling here in my part of the UK. That posting from S* made
me smile so it did have a positive use (pun intended).

73 to all, Ian.

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:35:00 +0100, Ian wrote:

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
Yes. The leakages are also unsymmetric:
"Coronas may be positive or negative. This is determined by the
polarity of the voltage on the highly-curved electrode.
In a power lines are also the counterpoise:
"Overhead power lines are often equipped with a ground conductor
(shield wire or overhead earth wire). A ground conductor is a conductor
that is usually grounded (earthed) at the top of the supporting
structure to minimize the likelihood of direct lightning strikes to the
phase conductors. The ground wire is also a parallel path with the
earth for fault currents in earthed neutral circuits. You should know
that before the IIWW in the Soviet Union, Germany and US were quite
different phisics.
Now are the same in the whole "free" world but the older books are also
avaiable.
S*
Hello chaps. I've solved the puzzle of the what S* is. He's an
out-of-work comedy writer.
He says that in Poland they have a power supply that
operates with corona discharge as normal (I assume into the house) and
operates with lightning strikes as the norm.
Of most interest to us all will be S*'s assertion that physics varied
from country to country before WWII. Anyone know (or care to guess) who
unified physics around the world?
It's dull and drizzling here in my part of the UK. That posting from S*
made me smile so it did have a positive use (pun intended).

73 to all, Ian.

No, he's just stupid.

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

It is not easy to describe it.
But in Poland the amateur-radio dipoles consists of the one radiator and the
counterpoise.
Simply speaking it is the Marconi antenna with the one radial.

You are an ignorant, babbling, ineducable idiot who knows absolutely
NOTHING about antennas or how they work, or for that matter, anything
else.

A dipole is a dipole whether it is used by a Polish amateur or a Tibetan
monk.

You don't even understand what an antenna is or the difference between
an electric field, a magnetic field, and an electromagnetic field.

How many antennas have you built in your lifetime?

Why do you refuse to answer the question?

Is it because you have built zero antennas and you are trying to say all
the people that have successfully built hundreds that they are all wrong
and you don't want to admit you are an ignorant, inducable, idiot?

Why can't you obtain and read a university level textbook on electromagntics
in any language?

Is it because you are too stupid to be able to understand the material?

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...

The distribution system in Poland is the same as the rest of Europe
and conforms to IEC 60446, which means, you babbling idiot, there is
no current in the ground connection unless there is a fault.

Yes. The leakages are also unsymmetric:
"Coronas may be positive or negative. This is determined by the polarity of
the voltage on the highly-curved electrode. If the curved electrode is
positive with respect to the flat electrode we say we have a positive
corona, if negative we say we have a negative corona. (See below for more
details.) The physics of positive and negative coronas are strikingly
different. This asymmetry is a result of the great difference in mass
between electrons and positively charged ions, with only the electron having
the ability to undergo a significant degree of ionising inelastic collision
at common temperatures and pressures."
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_discharge

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with electrical distribution systems,
you stupid, babbling, moron.

In a power lines are also the counterpoise:

A counterpoise has absolutely NOTHING to do with electrical distribution
systems, you stupid, babbling, moron.

"Overhead power lines are often equipped with a ground conductor (shield
wire or overhead earth wire). A ground conductor is a conductor that is
usually grounded (earthed) at the top of the supporting structure to
minimize the likelihood of direct lightning strikes to the phase conductors.
The ground wire is also a parallel path with the earth for fault currents in
earthed neutral circuits. Very high-voltage transmission lines may have two
ground conductors."

As you have been told several times, the earth ground in an electrical
distribution system is for safety if something goes wrong or breaks.

On of the things that can go wrong is lightning striking the wires.

The only difference between country are the textbooks.

The difference between the textbooks is the language they are written in.

You should know that before the IIWW in the Soviet Union, Germany and US
were quite different phisics.

No, you babbling moron, the physics was ALWAYS the same; it was the
politics that was different.

Now are the same in the whole "free" world but the older books are also
avaiable.

You are an ignorant, babbling, ineducable idiot who knows absolutely
NOTHING about antennas or how they work, or how ANYTHING works for that
matter.

You don't even understand what an antenna is or the difference between
an electric field, a magnetic field, and an electromagnetic field.

How many antennas have you built in your lifetime?

Why do you refuse to answer the question?

Is it because you have built zero antennas and you are trying to say all
the people that have successfully built hundreds that they are all wrong
and you don't want to admit you are an ignorant, inducable, idiot?

Why can't you obtain and read a university level textbook on electromagntics
in any language?

Is it because you are too stupid to be able to understand the material?

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Ian" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
Yes. The leakages are also unsymmetric:
"Coronas may be positive or negative. This is determined by the polarity
of the voltage on the highly-curved electrode.

Hello chaps. I've solved the puzzle of the what S* is. He's an
out-of-work comedy writer.
He says that in Poland they have a power supply that
operates with corona discharge as normal (I assume into the house) and
operates with lightning strikes as the norm.

"Outside this region of ionization and conductivity, the charged particles
slowly find their way to an oppositely charged object and are neutralized."

As a normal in the all country is leakage. Corona is from time to time.

"Physics, Electricity . the loss of all or part of a useful agent, as of the
electric current that flows through an insulator"

In overhead power supply the air is an insulator.

The both (corona and leakage) are nonsymmetric in AC.
So the ground is the only remedy.
S*

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .

As a normal in the all country is leakage. Corona is from time to time.

"Physics, Electricity . the loss of all or part of a useful agent, as of
the electric current that flows through an insulator"

In overhead power supply the air is an insulator.

The both (corona and leakage) are nonsymmetric in AC.
So the ground is the only remedy.
S*
Hello Szczepan.
Neither you nor I would want to be near any "leaky" insulator. You appear
not to understand the definition and meaning of "insulator". Your past
behaviour indicates that there is no pint in trying to explain it to you.
All I will suggest is that you try to acquire and read a textbook on the
subject.

Regards, Ian.

ps: In the Subject line of this thread, who is the "UK earthling"?

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Ian" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
Yes. The leakages are also unsymmetric:
"Coronas may be positive or negative. This is determined by the polarity
of the voltage on the highly-curved electrode.

Hello chaps. I've solved the puzzle of the what S* is. He's an
out-of-work comedy writer.
He says that in Poland they have a power supply that
operates with corona discharge as normal (I assume into the house) and
operates with lightning strikes as the norm.

"Outside this region of ionization and conductivity, the charged particles
slowly find their way to an oppositely charged object and are neutralized."

As a normal in the all country is leakage. Corona is from time to time.

"Physics, Electricity . the loss of all or part of a useful agent, as of the
electric current that flows through an insulator"

In overhead power supply the air is an insulator.

The both (corona and leakage) are nonsymmetric in AC.
So the ground is the only remedy.
S*

Yet more babbling gibberish from our resident Polish clown who hasn't a
clue what his quoted material actually means.

You are an ignorant, babbling, ineducable idiot who knows absolutely
NOTHING about antennas or anything else for that matter.

How many antennas have you built in your lifetime?

Why do you refuse to answer the question?

Is it because you have built zero antennas and you are trying to say all
the people that have successfully built hundreds that they are all wrong
and you don't want to admit you are an ignorant, inducable, idiot?

Why can't you obtain and read a university level textbook on electromagntics
in any language?

Why can't you obtain and read a university level textbook on electricity
in any language?

Is it because you are too stupid to be able to understand the material?

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .

As a normal in the all country is leakage. Corona is from time to time.

"Physics, Electricity . the loss of all or part of a useful agent, as of
the electric current that flows through an insulator"

In overhead power supply the air is an insulator.

The both (corona and leakage) are nonsymmetric in AC.
So the ground is the only remedy.
S*
Hello Szczepan.
Neither you nor I would want to be near any "leaky" insulator. You appear
not to understand the definition and meaning of "insulator". Your past
behaviour indicates that there is no point in trying to explain it to you.
All I will suggest is that you try to acquire and read a textbook on the
subject.

Regards, Ian.

ps: In the Subject line of this thread, who is the "UK earthling"?