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[email protected] July 23rd 12 06:27 PM

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Ian Jackson" napisal w wiadomosci
...
Every time yet another post on this subject arrives, I can't help thinking
of the limerick about the 'Young man of Devizes' (a small town in
Wiltshire, England). Those who have no idea what I'm talking about can
Google.

Perhaps there's a similar one about a radio amateur whose dipole had
unequal wire sizes?


"End-Fed Center-Fed Dipole (AKA Coaxial Vertical Dipole)

Really, that description is correct. Primarily constructed with coaxial
cable the one half wave vertical dipole is fed from its bottom but the coax
shield is left in place only up to near the center point (about ? wave but
the exact end point for terminating the shielding is determined by tuning)
which becomes the actual "feed-point" ergo, the description. The center
conductor continues up for about ? wave past the point of termination of the
shield." From:
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php...ter-Fed-Dipole


You haven't the slightest clue what any of this means.

Are the wires equal or unequal?


A stupid question from a moron that doesn't have the slightest clue
what any of this means.

Is it dipole, monopole or "dipole"?


There is no difference between a dipole and a "dipole".

The antenna in question is a monopole with a complex feed system.

You are an ignorant, babbling, ineducable idiot who knows absolutely
NOTHING about anything.

How many antennas have you built in your lifetime?

Why do you refuse to answer the question?

Is it because you have built zero antennas and you are trying to say all
the people that have successfully built hundreds that they are all wrong
and you don't want to admit you are an ignorant, inducable, idiot?

Why can't you obtain and read a university level textbook on anything
in any language?

Is it because you are too stupid to be able to understand the material?



Rob[_8_] July 23rd 12 06:32 PM

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"W5DXP" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Monday, July 23, 2012 2:37:23 AM UTC-5, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
The Giants discovered in XIX century that light is the oscillatory flow
of

electrons.


But that has since been proved not to be a fact, i.e. their theory has been
disproved. Just as Issac Newton's discoveries were a little off, so were
the "Giants" about which you speak. In RF conductors, electrons do
oscillate but they are much too slow to "flow".


They jump off from the end (corona) after the time equal to speed of light.
They do not flow from the transmitter to the end of antenna. They kick the
next ones. It is the oscillatory flow.


But EM waves also propagate in environments where the electrons are
too far apart to kick eachother. How do you explain that?

[email protected] July 23rd 12 07:01 PM

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

They jump off from the end (corona) after the time equal to speed of light.
They do not flow from the transmitter to the end of antenna. They kick the
next ones. It is the oscillatory flow.


You have been told time and time again that there is no corona in normal
antenna operation.

You have been told time and time again that "oscillatory flow" is 19th
century nonsense.

Why do you yet again repeat all this nonsense?

Why do you keep arguing with people who have hundreds of years of collective
experience and many with engineering and science degrees, all of whom
have told you this is nonsense?

You are an ignorant, babbling, ineducable idiot who knows absolutely
NOTHING about anything.

How many antennas have you built in your lifetime?

Why do you refuse to answer the question?

Is it because you have built zero antennas and you are trying to say all
the people that have successfully built hundreds that they are all wrong
and you don't want to admit you are an ignorant, inducable, idiot?

Why can't you obtain and read a university level textbook on anything
in any language?

Is it because you are too stupid to be able to understand the material?



Szczepan Bialek July 24th 12 03:36 PM

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

napisał w wiadomości
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:


"End-Fed Center-Fed Dipole (AKA Coaxial Vertical Dipole)

Really, that description is correct. Primarily constructed with coaxial
cable the one half wave vertical dipole is fed from its bottom but the
coax
shield is left in place only up to near the center point (about ? wave
but
the exact end point for terminating the shielding is determined by
tuning)
which becomes the actual "feed-point" ergo, the description. The center
conductor continues up for about ? wave past the point of termination of
the
shield." From:
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php...ter-Fed-Dipole



Is it dipole, monopole or "dipole"?


The antenna in question is a monopole with a complex feed system.


Are all dipoles the monopoles?
S*



Szczepan Bialek July 24th 12 03:42 PM

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Rob" napisał w wiadomości
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"W5DXP" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Monday, July 23, 2012 2:37:23 AM UTC-5, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
The Giants discovered in XIX century that light is the oscillatory flow
of
electrons.


But that has since been proved not to be a fact, i.e. their theory has
been
disproved. Just as Issac Newton's discoveries were a little off, so were
the "Giants" about which you speak. In RF conductors, electrons do
oscillate but they are much too slow to "flow".


They jump off from the end (corona) after the time equal to speed of
light.
They do not flow from the transmitter to the end of antenna. They kick
the
next ones. It is the oscillatory flow.


But EM waves also propagate in environments where the electrons are
too far apart to kick each other. How do you explain that?


W5DXP wrote; "In RF conductors, electrons do oscillate but they are much too
slow to "flow".
In conductors is a lot of electrons.

EM waves are in textbooks. The electron waves propagate in plasma. There is
also a lot of electrons.
Everything what fall down on the Sun is "reworked" into plasma.
S*



Szczepan Bialek July 24th 12 03:44 PM

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

napisał w wiadomości
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

They jump off from the end (corona) after the time equal to speed of
light.
They do not flow from the transmitter to the end of antenna. They kick
the
next ones. It is the oscillatory flow.


You have been told time and time again that there is no corona in normal
antenna operation.


But is in unnormal operation. When it is seen?
S*




[email protected] July 24th 12 03:49 PM

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 
Szczepan Bialek wrote:


Are all dipoles the monopoles?
S*


Are you really this blazingly stupid that you would ask such a moronic
question or are you insane?




Szczepan Bialek July 24th 12 03:50 PM

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:


An antenna is a device that converts the AC electrical energy at it's
teminals into electromagnetic energy which radiates from the antenna
and also coverts the electromagnetic energy which antenna intercepts
into AC electrical energy at it's terminals.


Radiates waves or photons or something else?

A rectenna is simply an antenna with something that acts as a diode at
it's terminals to convert the AC to DC.


In AC electrons oscillate. In DC electrons are flowing for ages.
Where they come from?
S*



[email protected] July 24th 12 03:52 PM

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

W5DXP wrote; "In RF conductors, electrons do oscillate but they are much too
slow to "flow".
In conductors is a lot of electrons.

EM waves are in textbooks. The electron waves propagate in plasma. There is
also a lot of electrons.
Everything what fall down on the Sun is "reworked" into plasma.
S*


Are you really this stupid that you would post this nonsense or are
you insane?

Maybe you are just drunk all the time.

Which is it; stupid, insane, or drunk?




[email protected] July 24th 12 03:54 PM

UK earthling - was: Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

They jump off from the end (corona) after the time equal to speed of
light.
They do not flow from the transmitter to the end of antenna. They kick
the
next ones. It is the oscillatory flow.


You have been told time and time again that there is no corona in normal
antenna operation.


But is in unnormal operation. When it is seen?
S*


A babbling Polish idiots with his head up his ass.





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