Well, I today decided to make a start in trying to obtain planning
permission for my new Antenna - even though the "Permitted Development
Rights" have been removed from our small Village in the middle of nowhere on
Bodmin Moor in Cornwall -
First step was to fill in all four sets of application forms - the truth -
the whole truth and nothing but the truth !! Then out in the wind and rain
with a tape measure and try to measure up the length of the garden -
distance from the house to the proposed site of the Antenna - Height of the
house in relation to the height of the Antenna - and then go back indoors
and start to draw it all up into a meaning full set of drawing. Four copies
were needed. Next step. Try to find the digital Camera and wait for the rain
to stop before taking a photo of the intended site. Lunch. Proceed to print
photos - run out of ink. Install new print cartridge - and finally manage to
get the whole lot ready for the "Council"
Proceed to Bodmin Council offices - where a nice young girl offered to view
my drawings before accepting them for consideration. The first mistake I
made was in using feet and inches. "Sorry - we only take metric" So I now
have to re-do them all again. Next mistake "We Don't take them on graph
paper" Third mistake was
"We need a picture of the "Ariel" Forth mistake was: "We need the drawings
to be to scale"
Did Marconi have all this trouble with the "Council" ?
Here I am - now trying to re-do everything - to some sort of Scale. Wife
moaning - Kids Moaning - cat climbing over all the drawings - Dog waiting to
be walked..... TV blaring out .... Ohhh happy days .... I think I am going
Crazy..... Beam me up Scottie........
To be Continued.........
John M3IIV

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:48:39 +0000 (UTC), Simon Smith wrote:
Well, I today decided to make a start in trying to obtain planning
permission for my new Antenna - even though the "Permitted Development
Rights" have been removed from our small Village in the middle of nowhere on
Bodmin Moor in Cornwall -
First step was to fill in all four sets of application forms - the truth -
the whole truth and nothing but the truth !! Then out in the wind and rain
with a tape measure and try to measure up the length of the garden -
distance from the house to the proposed site of the Antenna - Height of the
house in relation to the height of the Antenna - and then go back indoors
and start to draw it all up into a meaning full set of drawing. Four copies
were needed. Next step. Try to find the digital Camera and wait for the rain
to stop before taking a photo of the intended site. Lunch. Proceed to print
photos - run out of ink. Install new print cartridge - and finally manage to
get the whole lot ready for the "Council"
Proceed to Bodmin Council offices - where a nice young girl offered to view
my drawings before accepting them for consideration. The first mistake I
made was in using feet and inches. "Sorry - we only take metric" So I now
have to re-do them all again. Next mistake "We Don't take them on graph
paper" Third mistake was
"We need a picture of the "Ariel" Forth mistake was: "We need the drawings
to be to scale"
Did Marconi have all this trouble with the "Council" ?
Here I am - now trying to re-do everything - to some sort of Scale. Wife
moaning - Kids Moaning - cat climbing over all the drawings - Dog waiting to
be walked..... TV blaring out .... Ohhh happy days .... I think I am going
Crazy..... Beam me up Scottie........
To be Continued.........
John M3IIV

'Tis easier to get forgiveness, than to get permission.

73
Jonesy W3DHJ
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| Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
| 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK

The good news is, the clerk is actually being rather helpful.
A less useful situation occurs when the clerk accepts anything
you deliver and then the council rejects the proposal due to
improper formatting.

-- Tom




"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
Well, I today decided to make a start in trying to obtain planning
permission for my new Antenna - even though the "Permitted Development
Rights" have been removed from our small Village in the middle of nowhere
on Bodmin Moor in Cornwall -
First step was to fill in all four sets of application forms - the truth -
the whole truth and nothing but the truth !! Then out in the wind and rain
with a tape measure and try to measure up the length of the garden -
distance from the house to the proposed site of the Antenna - Height of
the house in relation to the height of the Antenna - and then go back
indoors and start to draw it all up into a meaning full set of drawing.
Four copies were needed. Next step. Try to find the digital Camera and
wait for the rain to stop before taking a photo of the intended site.
Lunch. Proceed to print photos - run out of ink. Install new print
cartridge - and finally manage to get the whole lot ready for the
"Council"
Proceed to Bodmin Council offices - where a nice young girl offered to
view my drawings before accepting them for consideration. The first
mistake I made was in using feet and inches. "Sorry - we only take metric"
So I now have to re-do them all again. Next mistake "We Don't take them on
graph paper" Third mistake was
"We need a picture of the "Ariel" Forth mistake was: "We need the
drawings to be to scale"
Did Marconi have all this trouble with the "Council" ?
Here I am - now trying to re-do everything - to some sort of Scale. Wife
moaning - Kids Moaning - cat climbing over all the drawings - Dog waiting
to be walked..... TV blaring out .... Ohhh happy days .... I think I am
going Crazy..... Beam me up Scottie........
To be Continued.........
John M3IIV

Do you get to vote for the council members who come up with all these
rules, or are they appointed by the Queen or something? If the former,
it sounds like it might be time to become a bit involved with your local
government. If the latter, well, God save 'er. And you.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Roy Lewallen wrote:
Do you get to vote for the council members who come up with all these
rules, or are they appointed by the Queen or something? If the former,
it sounds like it might be time to become a bit involved with your
local government. If the latter, well, God save 'er. And you.

Unfortunately, none of the above. The rules are made by bureaucrats at
national level, and implemented by bureaucrats at local level.

John - if you haven't got hold of the RSGB Planning booklet, get it NOW!
There are several pitfalls in this process, so talk to an expert and get
detailed advice before you set foot back inside that planning office.

I am not one of those experts, just one of their "satisfied customers".
Being just about to go through the whole thing again in a different
location, I will definitely be following my own advice!


--
73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek

Tom
I agree - Thankful for small mercies.....
John
"Tom" wrote in message
news:XZjDd.33645$L7.21064@trnddc05...
The good news is, the clerk is actually being rather helpful.
A less useful situation occurs when the clerk accepts anything
you deliver and then the council rejects the proposal due to
improper formatting.

-- Tom




"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
Well, I today decided to make a start in trying to obtain planning
permission for my new Antenna - even though the "Permitted Development
Rights" have been removed from our small Village in the middle of nowhere
on Bodmin Moor in Cornwall -
First step was to fill in all four sets of application forms - the
truth - the whole truth and nothing but the truth !! Then out in the wind
and rain with a tape measure and try to measure up the length of the
garden - distance from the house to the proposed site of the Antenna -
Height of the house in relation to the height of the Antenna - and then
go back indoors and start to draw it all up into a meaning full set of
drawing. Four copies were needed. Next step. Try to find the digital
Camera and wait for the rain to stop before taking a photo of the
intended site. Lunch. Proceed to print photos - run out of ink. Install
new print cartridge - and finally manage to get the whole lot ready for
the "Council"
Proceed to Bodmin Council offices - where a nice young girl offered to
view my drawings before accepting them for consideration. The first
mistake I made was in using feet and inches. "Sorry - we only take
metric" So I now have to re-do them all again. Next mistake "We Don't
take them on graph paper" Third mistake was
"We need a picture of the "Ariel" Forth mistake was: "We need the
drawings to be to scale"
Did Marconi have all this trouble with the "Council" ?
Here I am - now trying to re-do everything - to some sort of Scale. Wife
moaning - Kids Moaning - cat climbing over all the drawings - Dog waiting
to be walked..... TV blaring out .... Ohhh happy days .... I think I am
going Crazy..... Beam me up Scottie........
To be Continued.........
John M3IIV

Seems you're making progress (?) over there. Sounds totally American.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...
Well, I today decided to make a start in trying to obtain planning
permission for my new Antenna - even though the "Permitted Development
Rights" have been removed from our small Village in the middle of nowhere
on
Bodmin Moor in Cornwall -
First step was to fill in all four sets of application forms - the truth -
the whole truth and nothing but the truth !! Then out in the wind and rain
with a tape measure and try to measure up the length of the garden -
distance from the house to the proposed site of the Antenna - Height of
the
house in relation to the height of the Antenna - and then go back indoors
and start to draw it all up into a meaning full set of drawing. Four
copies
were needed. Next step. Try to find the digital Camera and wait for the
rain
to stop before taking a photo of the intended site. Lunch. Proceed to
print
photos - run out of ink. Install new print cartridge - and finally manage
to
get the whole lot ready for the "Council"
Proceed to Bodmin Council offices - where a nice young girl offered to
view
my drawings before accepting them for consideration. The first mistake I
made was in using feet and inches. "Sorry - we only take metric" So I now
have to re-do them all again. Next mistake "We Don't take them on graph
paper" Third mistake was
"We need a picture of the "Ariel" Forth mistake was: "We need the
drawings
to be to scale"
Did Marconi have all this trouble with the "Council" ?
Here I am - now trying to re-do everything - to some sort of Scale. Wife
moaning - Kids Moaning - cat climbing over all the drawings - Dog waiting
to
be walked..... TV blaring out .... Ohhh happy days .... I think I am going
Crazy..... Beam me up Scottie........
To be Continued.........
John M3IIV

CW wrote:
Seems you're making progress (?) over there. Sounds totally American.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...

Well, I today decided to make a start in trying to obtain planning
permission for my new Antenna - even though the "Permitted Development
Rights" have been removed from our small Village in the middle of nowhere

on

Bodmin Moor in Cornwall -
First step was to fill in all four sets of application forms - the truth -
the whole truth and nothing but the truth !! Then out in the wind and rain
with a tape measure and try to measure up the length of the garden -
distance from the house to the proposed site of the Antenna - Height of

the

house in relation to the height of the Antenna - and then go back indoors
and start to draw it all up into a meaning full set of drawing. Four

copies

were needed. Next step. Try to find the digital Camera and wait for the

rain

to stop before taking a photo of the intended site. Lunch. Proceed to

print

photos - run out of ink. Install new print cartridge - and finally manage

to

get the whole lot ready for the "Council"
Proceed to Bodmin Council offices - where a nice young girl offered to

view

my drawings before accepting them for consideration. The first mistake I
made was in using feet and inches. "Sorry - we only take metric" So I now
have to re-do them all again. Next mistake "We Don't take them on graph
paper" Third mistake was
"We need a picture of the "Ariel" Forth mistake was: "We need the

drawings

to be to scale"
Did Marconi have all this trouble with the "Council" ?
Here I am - now trying to re-do everything - to some sort of Scale. Wife
moaning - Kids Moaning - cat climbing over all the drawings - Dog waiting

to

be walked..... TV blaring out .... Ohhh happy days .... I think I am going
Crazy..... Beam me up Scottie........
To be Continued.........
John M3IIV





John;

Remember that they are the government and are only here to help you!!!!

Dave WD9BDZ

"David G. Nagel" wrote in message
...
CW wrote:
Seems you're making progress (?) over there. Sounds totally American.

"Simon Smith" wrote in message
...

Well, I today decided to make a start in trying to obtain planning
permission for my new Antenna - even though the "Permitted Development
Rights" have been removed from our small Village in the middle of nowhere

SNIP

my drawings before accepting them for consideration. The first mistake I
made was in using feet and inches. "Sorry - we only take metric" So I now
have to re-do them all again. Next mistake "We Don't take them on graph
paper" Third mistake was
"We need a picture of the "Ariel" Forth mistake was: "We need the

drawings

to be to scale"
Did Marconi have all this trouble with the "Council" ?

SNIP

John;

Remember that they are the government and are only here to help you!!!!

Dave WD9BDZ


We Americans used to chuckle about how, in Germany, everything was
prohibited except that which was specifically allowed. And now, we have
Covenants, planning commissions, the EPA, the FAA, the FCC, OSHA, and
agencies yet unformed, should we try to stick a wire up in the air. We've
learned a lot from Europe, and don't remember Pogo at all.

Ed
wb6wsn