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Planning permission - a lesson from satellite launching?
Some of us have encountered the wrath of our local planning
committees when erecting antennae that seemed reasonable to us, but perhaps unreasonable to SFB neighbours. Could we conceive of an antenna, even possible an HF beam, that folds away into a single rod-like structure when not in use? I have in mind the way in which quite elaborate antennae and solar cells unfold from a satellite once it reaches orbit. Such an antenna, if it were to be deployed only during the hours of darkness, might also serve the needs of those who are obliged to use stealth antennae due to restrictive covenants on the buildings used as their shacks! |
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Airy R. Bean wrote:
Some of us have encountered the wrath of our local planning committees when erecting antennae that seemed reasonable to us, but perhaps unreasonable to SFB neighbours. Could we conceive of an antenna, even possible an HF beam, that folds away into a single rod-like structure when not in use? Have you never seen a _wind-up_ mast with a beam on top? You really need to get out more! David. |
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"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
... Some of us have encountered the wrath of our local planning committees when erecting antennae that seemed reasonable to us, but perhaps unreasonable to SFB neighbours. Could we conceive of an antenna, even possible an HF beam, that folds away into a single rod-like structure when not in use? I have in mind the way in which quite elaborate antennae and solar cells unfold from a satellite once it reaches orbit. Such an antenna, if it were to be deployed only during the hours of darkness, might also serve the needs of those who are obliged to use stealth antennae due to restrictive covenants on the buildings used as their shacks! Simple Gareth, buy a scam mast, less than 12 foot tall so no planning problems. even Liz might approve... Or you could try an underground dipole, perfect for inter G on the lower bands, No RFI and a nice quiet receive. Even in your 70 foot garden you should be able to fit an 80M dipole in a straight line. Steve H |
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-- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898 "Steve H" wrote in message ... "Airy R. Bean" wrote in message ... Some of us have encountered the wrath of our local planning committees when erecting antennae that seemed reasonable to us, but perhaps unreasonable to SFB neighbours. Could we conceive of an antenna, even possible an HF beam, that folds away into a single rod-like structure when not in use? I have in mind the way in which quite elaborate antennae and solar cells unfold from a satellite once it reaches orbit. Such an antenna, if it were to be deployed only during the hours of darkness, might also serve the needs of those who are obliged to use stealth antennae due to restrictive covenants on the buildings used as their shacks! Simple Gareth, buy a scam mast, less than 12 foot tall so no planning problems. even Liz might approve... Or you could try an underground dipole, perfect for inter G on the lower bands, No RFI and a nice quiet receive. Even in your 70 foot garden you should be able to fit an 80M dipole in a straight line. There is also a commercial 'roll out' antenna about. I'm sure someone competent with a model engineering workshop could emulate it. I've used the flat metal tape from a retractable tape measure in the past for antenna elements- this could be the basis of a 'roll out' design. -- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898 |
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Steve H wrote:
Simple Gareth, buy a scam mast, less than 12 foot tall so no planning problems. even Liz might approve... Not so, GPDO 1995 states that structures (masts and antennas) under 3m (~9'9") do not require planning permission, if sited at least 2m (~6'6") from any boundary, and at least 5m (~16'3") from a neighbours building. This is modified to the height of your ridge line (not chimney) visible by an average sized adult standing on the pavement at the front of your dwelling, if you have the structure attached to one of the existing walls of your property (not the front wall visible from the pavement). Exclusions are made for non-commercial antennas that are similar in size to a Broadcast TV Antenna & Mast, which may be erected on the chimney (I've had a 2 ele 6m beam on a rotator excluded under this provision). At my last QTH, I had no planning permission for a ground mounted Butternut HF9V, the Planning Enforcement Officer that made a visit, said that an application was not required as it was under 4m tall (~13'0")?!? I'm still within the area managed by the same Planning Authority, ;-) M5WJF |
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message
... -- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898 "Steve H" wrote in message ... There is also a commercial 'roll out' antenna about. I'm sure someone competent with a model engineering workshop could emulate it. I've used the flat metal tape from a retractable tape measure in the past for antenna elements- this could be the basis of a 'roll out' design. -- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898 Nice idea, what about combining that with the feed mechanism from an old printer. I was going to dump an old OKI microline printer, the feed motor is a reversible stepper motor so should be PC controllable. Steve H |
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"Steve H" wrote in message
... There is also a commercial 'roll out' antenna about. I'm sure someone competent with a model engineering workshop could emulate it. I've used the flat metal tape from a retractable tape measure in the past for antenna elements- this could be the basis of a 'roll out' design. Nice idea, what about combining that with the feed mechanism from an old printer. I was going to dump an old OKI microline printer, the feed motor is a reversible stepper motor so should be PC controllable. Sounds good. I'd thought of using a similar motor for a remote ATU. -- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898 |
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:19:28 -0000, Airy R. Bean wrote:
Some of us have encountered the wrath of our local planning committees when erecting antennae that seemed reasonable to us, but perhaps unreasonable to SFB neighbours. Could we conceive of an antenna, even possible an HF beam, that folds away into a single rod-like structure when not in use? I have in mind the way in which quite elaborate antennae and solar cells unfold from a satellite once it reaches orbit. ...and, achieves zero gravity, zero wind resistance, and zero local bureaucratic control. HI!HI! HNY Jonesy -- | Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux | Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __ | 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK |
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The man next door has a large erection in the back garden, which is
unsightly and dangerous. !! Is This is the sort of complaint they send to the council, Mr Bean ?? |
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