"Roy Lewallen" skrev i melding
...
Language corruption isn't always bad. Just a few nights ago I was
listening to the BBC World Service (rebroadcast here on public radio). A
(British) lady was expounding about the troubles of some American
government officials and their illegal-alien nannies. When asked if she
had a nanny, she hesitated, then said she did. And she added that any
revelation of impropriety on her behalf would be very "red-facening".

I thought it was, well, you know, like, whatever.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
Spike wrote:

Anyone willing to take on "data" and "datum?"


Too late - "data" have already been carborundumbed into the singular.


Opera vs.opus?

Alf

"Roy Lewallen" skrev i melding
...
Language corruption isn't always bad. Just a few nights ago I was
listening to the BBC World Service (rebroadcast here on public radio). A
(British) lady was expounding about the troubles of some American
government officials and their illegal-alien nannies. When asked if she
had a nanny, she hesitated, then said she did. And she added that any
revelation of impropriety on her behalf would be very "red-facening".

I thought it was, well, you know, like, whatever.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
Spike wrote:

Anyone willing to take on "data" and "datum?"


Too late - "data" have already been carborundumbed into the singular.

Or better: kollo vs. kolli

Alf

Roy Lewallen wrote:
Language corruption isn't always bad. Just a few nights ago I was
listening to the BBC World Service (rebroadcast here on public radio).
A (British) lady was expounding about the troubles of some American
government officials and their illegal-alien nannies. When asked if she
had a nanny, she hesitated, then said she did. And she added that any
revelation of impropriety on her behalf would be very "red-facening".

I thought it was, well, you know, like, whatever.

Any noun can be verbed. Any verb is subject to abusage.

Then there's The Adjectival Superlative of the Present Participle, as
overheard at a music festival the USA: "These are the dancingest folks."

But the booze writers surely cap it all. We've just been given something
that offers "a superbly sweet and peaty island experience on the nose"
and promises "a lingering peaty finale." It takes real artistry to write
like that... and much more nerve than I possess.


Happy Holidays!
--
73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:01:13 +0100, "Alf Jacob Munthe"
wrote:


"Roy Lewallen" skrev i melding
...
Language corruption isn't always bad. Just a few nights ago I was
listening to the BBC World Service (rebroadcast here on public radio). A
(British) lady was expounding about the troubles of some American
government officials and their illegal-alien nannies. When asked if she
had a nanny, she hesitated, then said she did. And she added that any
revelation of impropriety on her behalf would be very "red-facening".

I thought it was, well, you know, like, whatever.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
Spike wrote:

Anyone willing to take on "data" and "datum?"


Too late - "data" have already been carborundumbed into the singular.


Opera vs.opus?

Oh that's an easy one. Opera is an alternate web browser and Opus is a
penguin.

Jon W3JT (who as a violinist in his other life could tell you more
about Opera and Opus than you would ever care to know. Kindly, he will
spare you this.)

Alf

How come I never saw the original post?

In any case, Antennas IS the PROPER Plural form of the word when used
in reference to: a metallic device (as a rod or wire) for sending out
or receiving radio waves.

Antennae is plural for the word when used in reference to an
arthropod.

Now if your Antenna is covered with growing mildew and moss, I guess
Antennae's would be the more appropos choice, hi hi.....

TTUL
Gary

Ian White, G3SEK wrote:

Roy Lewallen wrote:

Language corruption isn't always bad. Just a few nights ago I was
listening to the BBC World Service (rebroadcast here on public radio).
A (British) lady was expounding about the troubles of some American
government officials and their illegal-alien nannies. When asked if
she had a nanny, she hesitated, then said she did. And she added that
any revelation of impropriety on her behalf would be very "red-facening".

I thought it was, well, you know, like, whatever.

Any noun can be verbed. Any verb is subject to abusage.

Then there's The Adjectival Superlative of the Present Participle, as
overheard at a music festival the USA: "These are the dancingest folks."

But the booze writers surely cap it all. We've just been given something
that offers "a superbly sweet and peaty island experience on the nose"
and promises "a lingering peaty finale." It takes real artistry to write
like that... and much more nerve than I possess.

I wonder how many of them ate peat to find out what a "peaty finish"
was? Sounds like the tastage experience would be bad indeed.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Gary wrote:
In any case, Antennas IS the PROPER Plural form of the word...

If a word is used spelled or defined incorrectly by enough people for a long
enough period of time it likely will become considered by those who make the
rules to now be considered the correct usage spelling or definition and perhaps
by the time that this marathon of absolute correctness of usage thread ends the
word may well have in fact changed anyway and I hope you all have a gay Xmas.

BTW feel free to argue about the commas in my sentence...

The real plural, from its Latin root is, "antennae".

The Latin word meant a yardarm for a sail, but in those
days sails were not square rigged but lateen types. Hence
it seemed a good analogy to use the word for feelers of insects.

(The etymological entymological derivation is thus not
the original)

Those who are ignorant about the English Language and its
etymology, especially the Yanks and nerdy types, have
introduced the erroneous plural, "antennas".

Language changes, but where an obvious error has been introduced
by the ignoramuses of this World, there is no harm in correcting
the error and using, "antennae" henceforth. Let those who are CBers
and CBers-Masquerading-As-Radio-Hams identify themselves by
continuing with the use of the uneducated errneous plural!

"Jim" wrote in message
...
From Kraus' 'Antennas', first edition, footnote on page 1:
In its zoological sense, and antenna is the feeler, or organ of touch, of
an
insect. According to usage in the United States the plural of "insect
antenna" is "antennae," but the plural of "radio antenna" is "antennas".
However, the usage in England makes no distinction, the plural of both
"insect" antenna" and "radio antenna" being "antennae."
************************
So for those not native to the USA or England, it depends on where your
English teaher came from, I guess.

And never start a sentence with a conjunction.

Don't never use double negatives.

A preposition is not something to end a sentence with.

Eschew obfuscation.

Single word sentences? Don't!

Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed.

etc, etc.

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
J. Teske wrote:
... we must always try to never split infinitives.

:-) good one. 73, Cecil, W5DXP


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Datum - singular, data - plural. No difficulty there.

"Spike" wrote in message
...
Anyone willing to take on "data" and "datum?"