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Old December 24th 04, 08:41 AM
Roy Lewallen
 
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Language corruption isn't always bad. Just a few nights ago I was
listening to the BBC World Service (rebroadcast here on public radio). A
(British) lady was expounding about the troubles of some American
government officials and their illegal-alien nannies. When asked if she
had a nanny, she hesitated, then said she did. And she added that any
revelation of impropriety on her behalf would be very "red-facening".

I thought it was, well, you know, like, whatever.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
Spike wrote:

Anyone willing to take on "data" and "datum?"


Too late - "data" have already been carborundumbed into the singular.


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Old December 24th 04, 10:01 AM
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"Roy Lewallen" skrev i melding
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Language corruption isn't always bad. Just a few nights ago I was
listening to the BBC World Service (rebroadcast here on public radio). A
(British) lady was expounding about the troubles of some American
government officials and their illegal-alien nannies. When asked if she
had a nanny, she hesitated, then said she did. And she added that any
revelation of impropriety on her behalf would be very "red-facening".

I thought it was, well, you know, like, whatever.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
Spike wrote:

Anyone willing to take on "data" and "datum?"


Too late - "data" have already been carborundumbed into the singular.


Opera vs.opus?

Alf


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Old December 24th 04, 05:09 PM
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:01:13 +0100, "Alf Jacob Munthe"
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"Roy Lewallen" skrev i melding
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Language corruption isn't always bad. Just a few nights ago I was
listening to the BBC World Service (rebroadcast here on public radio). A
(British) lady was expounding about the troubles of some American
government officials and their illegal-alien nannies. When asked if she
had a nanny, she hesitated, then said she did. And she added that any
revelation of impropriety on her behalf would be very "red-facening".

I thought it was, well, you know, like, whatever.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
Spike wrote:

Anyone willing to take on "data" and "datum?"


Too late - "data" have already been carborundumbed into the singular.


Opera vs.opus?


Oh that's an easy one. Opera is an alternate web browser and Opus is a
penguin.

Jon W3JT (who as a violinist in his other life could tell you more
about Opera and Opus than you would ever care to know. Kindly, he will
spare you this.)

Alf


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Old December 24th 04, 10:02 AM
Alf Jacob Munthe
 
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"Roy Lewallen" skrev i melding
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Language corruption isn't always bad. Just a few nights ago I was
listening to the BBC World Service (rebroadcast here on public radio). A
(British) lady was expounding about the troubles of some American
government officials and their illegal-alien nannies. When asked if she
had a nanny, she hesitated, then said she did. And she added that any
revelation of impropriety on her behalf would be very "red-facening".

I thought it was, well, you know, like, whatever.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
Spike wrote:

Anyone willing to take on "data" and "datum?"


Too late - "data" have already been carborundumbed into the singular.

Or better: kollo vs. kolli

Alf


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Old December 24th 04, 10:50 AM
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Roy Lewallen wrote:
Language corruption isn't always bad. Just a few nights ago I was
listening to the BBC World Service (rebroadcast here on public radio).
A (British) lady was expounding about the troubles of some American
government officials and their illegal-alien nannies. When asked if she
had a nanny, she hesitated, then said she did. And she added that any
revelation of impropriety on her behalf would be very "red-facening".

I thought it was, well, you know, like, whatever.

Any noun can be verbed. Any verb is subject to abusage.

Then there's The Adjectival Superlative of the Present Participle, as
overheard at a music festival the USA: "These are the dancingest folks."

But the booze writers surely cap it all. We've just been given something
that offers "a superbly sweet and peaty island experience on the nose"
and promises "a lingering peaty finale." It takes real artistry to write
like that... and much more nerve than I possess.


Happy Holidays!
--
73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek


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Old December 25th 04, 12:00 AM
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Ian White, G3SEK wrote:

Roy Lewallen wrote:

Language corruption isn't always bad. Just a few nights ago I was
listening to the BBC World Service (rebroadcast here on public radio).
A (British) lady was expounding about the troubles of some American
government officials and their illegal-alien nannies. When asked if
she had a nanny, she hesitated, then said she did. And she added that
any revelation of impropriety on her behalf would be very "red-facening".

I thought it was, well, you know, like, whatever.

Any noun can be verbed. Any verb is subject to abusage.

Then there's The Adjectival Superlative of the Present Participle, as
overheard at a music festival the USA: "These are the dancingest folks."

But the booze writers surely cap it all. We've just been given something
that offers "a superbly sweet and peaty island experience on the nose"
and promises "a lingering peaty finale." It takes real artistry to write
like that... and much more nerve than I possess.


I wonder how many of them ate peat to find out what a "peaty finish"
was? Sounds like the tastage experience would be bad indeed.

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old December 25th 04, 01:36 PM
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What do you call an Irishman who has been dead for 200 years?
Pete!

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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I wonder how many of them ate peat to find out what a "peaty finish"
was? Sounds like the tastage experience would be bad indeed.



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Old December 25th 04, 12:03 AM
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Gary wrote:
In any case, Antennas IS the PROPER Plural form of the word...


If a word is used spelled or defined incorrectly by enough people for a long
enough period of time it likely will become considered by those who make the
rules to now be considered the correct usage spelling or definition and perhaps
by the time that this marathon of absolute correctness of usage thread ends the
word may well have in fact changed anyway and I hope you all have a gay Xmas.

BTW feel free to argue about the commas in my sentence...
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Old February 6th 05, 09:45 PM
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Enjoyed this thread. It elevated the word 'aerial' to new heights!
Noting also that during it, no one, as a previous English teacher of mine
used to say, "Demonstrated their inability to express themselves properly by
descending into profanity".
The same teacher, however, also claimed, "Anyone using words such as 'sox'
and 'foto' were definitely not using the English language"!
In the 1950s Broadway show 'My fair lady' based on G.B.Shaw's Pygmalion,
there is the line, "There even are places where Engish completely
disappears. In America they haven't used it for years!". It was good for a
laugh.
Personally; if we can combine the American skill for
inventing/designing/adapting words so that so that they are terse and
descriptive with the British penchant for contrasting and 'punning' the
various meanings of words, we will continue to have a rich and adaptive
language which will, as from the time of Chaucer and Shakespeare, be the
most powerful communicating language in the world. More power to us.
Terry.


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Old February 7th 05, 12:51 AM
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Terry wrote:

Enjoyed this thread. It elevated the word 'aerial' to new heights!
Noting also that during it, no one, as a previous English teacher of mine
used to say, "Demonstrated their inability to express themselves properly by
descending into profanity".
The same teacher, however, also claimed, "Anyone using words such as 'sox'
and 'foto' were definitely not using the English language"!
In the 1950s Broadway show 'My fair lady' based on G.B.Shaw's Pygmalion,
there is the line, "There even are places where Engish completely
disappears. In America they haven't used it for years!". It was good for a
laugh.
Personally; if we can combine the American skill for
inventing/designing/adapting words so that so that they are terse and
descriptive with the British penchant for contrasting and 'punning' the
various meanings of words, we will continue to have a rich and adaptive
language which will, as from the time of Chaucer and Shakespeare, be the
most powerful communicating language in the world. More power to us.
Terry.


Remember what that great american political leader, Winston Churchill,
said. "We are one people divided by a common language.



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