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Old April 11th 05, 05:30 AM
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Since you mentioned Moby Dick, I went ahead and searched the University of
Virginias' ebook library, it is there. I think you will probably need the
"Microsoft Reader", it is available from the microsoft site... if you need a
URL just ask...
Here is the URL to Moby Dick if you wish to download it:
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin...&grouping=work

You can search their library of 1800+ ebooks with expired copyrights at:
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/ebooks/

Regards,
John



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I would like to point out, I do appreciate the "Been there--done that!"
posts. Indeed, now your observations, comments and discourse should be
filled with wisdom--I am listening!!!
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Here is one page on the net, from a university, if you research it, you
will
find this page seems accurate. The library of congress page contains info
to this also...
http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm
Indeed, the examples of non-copyrighted works is not complete, there are
other ways a book is/remains un-copyright-ed.
I think I did see Moby Dick as one ebook freely available on the net, and
yes, I believe the copyright has expired on that book...

Regards,
John

--
I would like to point out, I do appreciate the "Been there--done that!"
posts. Indeed, now your observations, comments and discourse should be
filled with wisdom--I am listening!!!
"Hal Rosser" wrote in message
. ..

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
To all:

It is my understanding that all gov't materials, since paid for by
taxpayers, are non-copyright.
Also, any material before 1923 would have expired copyrights and,
undoubtably, a significant amount of material will have been published
"public domain";


So, you're saying that anyone could republish a book like "Moby Dick"
and sell it as their own since it was published before 1923 ?
I'm no lawyer, but I believe copyright live on. Patents expire.
If you're just wanting to build an antenna that someone else thought of
first
then you just 'do it' - just be careful about patent infringements if you
try to sell those antennas.






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Old April 11th 05, 05:55 AM
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Sorry to keep repling to my own posts, but like to give as complete info as
I can, I should have mentioned this above, it is a repository of over 15,000
ebooks, mainly in plain text format, and many classics with expired
copyrights, and done mostly by volunteers...
http://www.gutenberg.org/

With a scanner and "Fine Reader" software, copying any book to ebook format
(.pdf, .lit, .txt, etc.) is a snap! I wonder how many hams are out there
with relevant-expired copyright material right now?

Regards,
John

--
I would like to point out, I do appreciate the "Been there--done that!"
posts. Indeed, now your observations, comments and discourse should be
filled with wisdom--I am listening!!!
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Since you mentioned Moby Dick, I went ahead and searched the University of
Virginias' ebook library, it is there. I think you will probably need the
"Microsoft Reader", it is available from the microsoft site... if you need
a
URL just ask...
Here is the URL to Moby Dick if you wish to download it:
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin...&grouping=work

You can search their library of 1800+ ebooks with expired copyrights at:
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/ebooks/

Regards,
John



--
I would like to point out, I do appreciate the "Been there--done that!"
posts. Indeed, now your observations, comments and discourse should be
filled with wisdom--I am listening!!!
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Here is one page on the net, from a university, if you research it, you
will
find this page seems accurate. The library of congress page contains
info
to this also...
http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm
Indeed, the examples of non-copyrighted works is not complete, there are
other ways a book is/remains un-copyright-ed.
I think I did see Moby Dick as one ebook freely available on the net, and
yes, I believe the copyright has expired on that book...

Regards,
John

--
I would like to point out, I do appreciate the "Been there--done that!"
posts. Indeed, now your observations, comments and discourse should be
filled with wisdom--I am listening!!!
"Hal Rosser" wrote in message
. ..

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
To all:

It is my understanding that all gov't materials, since paid for by
taxpayers, are non-copyright.
Also, any material before 1923 would have expired copyrights and,
undoubtably, a significant amount of material will have been published
"public domain";

So, you're saying that anyone could republish a book like "Moby Dick"
and sell it as their own since it was published before 1923 ?
I'm no lawyer, but I believe copyright live on. Patents expire.
If you're just wanting to build an antenna that someone else thought of
first
then you just 'do it' - just be careful about patent infringements if
you
try to sell those antennas.








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Old April 12th 05, 12:59 AM
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SO - did you steal somebody's idea for an antenna, or what ?
Go ahead and make it - we won't tell.


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Old April 12th 05, 01:18 AM
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You are underhanded, subversive, and your manner is below one of minimal
human behavior--but I am positive--others have told you this--and obviously
with little affect...
Attacking me certainly does NOT endear your person to me. I am sure that
other thinking individuals recognise you for what you are and fear any
exchange with you, do you like to live in isolation?
What is it that you have found in my posts which you fear and are attempting
to divert attention away from? What has endangered you to the point of
reducing yourself to a such a level as to make a "gutter attack" on anothers
character?
Not only your lack of education and proper upbringing is showing--your very
lack of character is SCREAMING in agony!

John

--
I would like to point out, I do appreciate the "Been there--done that!"
posts. Indeed, now your observations, comments and discourse should be
filled with wisdom--I am listening!!!
"Hal Rosser" wrote in message
. ..
SO - did you steal somebody's idea for an antenna, or what ?
Go ahead and make it - we won't tell.




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Old April 12th 05, 05:48 AM
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"John Smith" wrote in message
...
You are underhanded, subversive, and your manner is below one of minimal
human behavior--but I am positive--others have told you this--and

obviously
with little affect...
Attacking me certainly does NOT endear your person to me. I am sure that
other thinking individuals recognise you for what you are and fear any
exchange with you, do you like to live in isolation?
What is it that you have found in my posts which you fear and are

attempting
to divert attention away from? What has endangered you to the point of
reducing yourself to a such a level as to make a "gutter attack" on

anothers
character?
Not only your lack of education and proper upbringing is showing--your

very
lack of character is SCREAMING in agony!

John


Calm down, bubbaboy. :-) a little touchy, aren't we ? I did not attach
you.
But you, in just a few lines, have managed to perform an attack of huge
porportion.
An attack not befitting a gentleman.
You should now voluntarily turn in your gentleman credentials immediately.
(But you can still go ahead and make that antenna).




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Old April 12th 05, 06:10 AM
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Really, if you jest, expect a jest in satire--in return lol

Regards,
John

--
I would like to point out, I do appreciate the "Been there--done that!"
posts. Indeed, now your observations, comments and discourse should be
filled with wisdom--I am listening!!!
"Hal Rosser" wrote in message
. ..

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
You are underhanded, subversive, and your manner is below one of minimal
human behavior--but I am positive--others have told you this--and

obviously
with little affect...
Attacking me certainly does NOT endear your person to me. I am sure that
other thinking individuals recognise you for what you are and fear any
exchange with you, do you like to live in isolation?
What is it that you have found in my posts which you fear and are

attempting
to divert attention away from? What has endangered you to the point of
reducing yourself to a such a level as to make a "gutter attack" on

anothers
character?
Not only your lack of education and proper upbringing is showing--your

very
lack of character is SCREAMING in agony!

John


Calm down, bubbaboy. :-) a little touchy, aren't we ? I did not attach
you.
But you, in just a few lines, have managed to perform an attack of huge
porportion.
An attack not befitting a gentleman.
You should now voluntarily turn in your gentleman credentials immediately.
(But you can still go ahead and make that antenna).




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Old April 11th 05, 08:08 AM
Richard Clark
 
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:30:04 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

You can search their library of 1800+ ebooks with expired copyrights at:
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/ebooks/


Hi All,

There are nearly tens times that many at:
http://www.gutenberg.org/

Instead of guessing about copyright, simply visit:
http://www.copyright.gov/
(Most/All of what has been said has been in error.)

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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