In article ,
Cecil Moore wrote:

aRKay wrote:
I just purchased a Ten-Tec 1208 Transverter to get my feet wet on six
meters. I would like to use my existing W9INN fan dipole if possible.
At the present time the fan dipole has three sets of wires from the
common feed point for 40/80, 10 MHz and 18 MHz. My plan is to add
another short set of wires cut for 50.125 MHz. Since each of the new
wires will only be 4.67 feet, I plan to use stand offs and run them
close to the 40/80 dipoles. It will be interesting to see if this
really works. Any suggestions for the short stand off insulators?

18 MHz times three equals 54 MHz. The 18 MHz dipole is likely to
detune the 6m dipole. See what the 6m SWR is now. You may not
need any additional wires.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Good point. I may hold off until I get the Ten-Tec 1208 and see what I
have with the existing mess of wires. HiHi

I don't have an antenna analyser so will have to wait until I generate a
six meter signal.

Anyone ever tried six meters on an old Ringo Ranger 2 meter antenna?

Dick AA5VU

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:17:10 GMT, aRKay wrote:

In article ,
Cecil Moore wrote:

aRKay wrote:
I just purchased a Ten-Tec 1208 Transverter to get my feet wet on six
meters. I would like to use my existing W9INN fan dipole if possible.
At the present time the fan dipole has three sets of wires from the
common feed point for 40/80, 10 MHz and 18 MHz. My plan is to add
another short set of wires cut for 50.125 MHz. Since each of the new
wires will only be 4.67 feet, I plan to use stand offs and run them
close to the 40/80 dipoles. It will be interesting to see if this
really works. Any suggestions for the short stand off insulators?

18 MHz times three equals 54 MHz. The 18 MHz dipole is likely to
detune the 6m dipole. See what the 6m SWR is now. You may not
need any additional wires.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Good point. I may hold off until I get the Ten-Tec 1208 and see what I
have with the existing mess of wires. HiHi

I don't have an antenna analyser so will have to wait until I generate a
six meter signal.

Anyone ever tried six meters on an old Ringo Ranger 2 meter antenna?

Dick AA5VU

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX

In article ,
wrote:

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX

Good response. I will not waste time messing with the old Ringo Ranger.

"aRKay" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX

Good response. I will not waste time messing with the old Ringo Ranger.

Don't give up on the vertical too quickly. I use both a 6 meter dipole and a
6 meter J-pole, 90% of my 6 meter contacts have been with the J-pole. Some
of the more experienced Hams of my acquaintance have told me that DX sort of
works outside of the normal vertical/horizontal polarization expectation. I
rarely have any occasion for a local 6 meter
contact. so am not able to speak about that aspect of the 6 meter band.

Harold
KD5SAK

In article ,
"Harold Burton" wrote:

"aRKay" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX

Good response. I will not waste time messing with the old Ringo Ranger.

Don't give up on the vertical too quickly. I use both a 6 meter dipole and a
6 meter J-pole, 90% of my 6 meter contacts have been with the J-pole. Some
of the more experienced Hams of my acquaintance have told me that DX sort of
works outside of the normal vertical/horizontal polarization expectation. I
rarely have any occasion for a local 6 meter
contact. so am not able to speak about that aspect of the 6 meter band.

Harold
KD5SAK

Thanks Harold. I forgot about the J-pole and I may try one while
playing around with the new stuff.

Dick - AA5VU

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:18:03 -0500, "Harold Burton"
wrote:


"aRKay" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX

Good response. I will not waste time messing with the old Ringo Ranger.

Don't give up on the vertical too quickly. I use both a 6 meter dipole and a
6 meter J-pole, 90% of my 6 meter contacts have been with the J-pole. Some
of the more experienced Hams of my acquaintance have told me that DX sort of
works outside of the normal vertical/horizontal polarization expectation. I
rarely have any occasion for a local 6 meter
contact. so am not able to speak about that aspect of the 6 meter band.

Harold
KD5SAK

Experience is that my vertical beam hears far less DX than the
horizontal. Occasionally I hear DX on the Vertical that is better
but on confirming the other end is also vertical. So it goes.
I do have vertical for those times where it may help. One thing I do
notice is the noise level of the vertical beam is far worse.

For local use the horizontal is usually 2-3 Sunits higher than the
vertical.

Allison
KB1GMX

wrote in message

Occasionally I hear DX on the Vertical that is better
but on confirming the other end is also vertical. So it goes.
I do have vertical for those times where it may help. One thing I do
notice is the noise level of the vertical beam is far worse.

For local use the horizontal is usually 2-3 Sunits higher than the
vertical.

Allison
KB1GMX

Before somebody tells you that polarization is unimportant for a skip
signal, your 6 meter observations parallel what I found on 40. I had a 40
dipole and 40 GP vertical. In round table test with stations 400 - 800 miles
away, people with verticals preferred my vertical, and people with dipoles
preferred my dipole. There were a few people who could not tell the
difference.

Tam/WB2TT

Good point. I may hold off until I get the Ten-Tec 1208 and see what I
have with the existing mess of wires. HiHi

I don't have an antenna analyser so will have to wait until I generate a
six meter signal.

Anyone ever tried six meters on an old Ringo Ranger 2 meter antenna?

Dick AA5VU

I worked Canada on 6 meters with that transverter. Used a trapped dipole
for 40 to 10 meters.

I doube the ringo would work on 6 due to the way is fed. If it was just a
baseloaded (matched) 5/8 wave 2 meter antenna, it might work fine.