On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:29:13 -0400, Ari Silversteinn
wrote:

Reading about LPAM, this looks technically possible but one concern I have
is antennae size. A fire truck, for instance, could have an antenna mounted
on its front, and up to 4 feet over the top of its roof, so we might look
at as much as 20 feet of length. I realize this places us over the 3 meter
max so one of the ???? is whether LFAM is realistic.

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 10:05:07 -0700, Richard Clark wrote:

Hi Ari,

As you have described it, and have seen the discussion in regard to
the need for ERP - you are so deep in the debit column with AM power
EQUAL to a local broadcaster, that to climb out of that hole would be
prohibitive. READ: no fire truck has a power plant sufficient to
cover both the antenna system losses AND "overbroadcast" as you
desire. And this is for ONE station only. Imagine your broader
mandate to "overbroadcast" all local stations and that hole just gets
deeper.

OK, so we supply the amplification.

Am I way off base here, can any antennae, fractal or other, or any AM
antennae technology, be utilized to design an antenna and propagate this
type of signal?

With such a plea, to the savvy it reveals you are in over your head.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Doesn't matter if I'm in over my head, the technical side is one I only
need to be able to commo on, there will be others who will be cast with
this task.
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:33:52 -0400, Ari Silversteinn
wrote:
OK, so we supply the amplification.

OK, this is just a re-run of previous speculations. You don't know
the depth of your energy budget crisis, do you?

Doesn't matter if I'm in over my head, the technical side is one I only
need to be able to commo on, there will be others who will be cast with
this task.

How many leaps of imagination will it take to land on the gravy train?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 14:31:36 -0700, Richard Clark wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:33:52 -0400, Ari Silversteinn
wrote:
OK, so we supply the amplification.

OK, this is just a re-run of previous speculations. You don't know
the depth of your energy budget crisis, do you?

Open coffers.

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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 14:31:36 -0700, Richard Clark wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:33:52 -0400, Ari Silversteinn
wrote:
OK, so we supply the amplification.

OK, this is just a re-run of previous speculations. You don't know
the depth of your energy budget crisis, do you?

Open coffers.

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He wasn't referring to your finance budget, but your energy budget. I
hesitate to say it can't be done in any practical sense, but that's my
thought. The idea of one poster to transmit on the IF's is a good one but I
didn't suggest that because you'll also kill your emergency services comm's.

Incidentally, do you plan to have every loco in the US fitted out or are you
going to fly the loco's to the incident site to do their stuff?

Cheers.

Ken

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:09:19 +1300, "Ken Taylor"
wrote:

"Ari Silversteinn" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 14:31:36 -0700, Richard Clark wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:33:52 -0400, Ari Silversteinn
wrote:
OK, so we supply the amplification.

OK, this is just a re-run of previous speculations. You don't know
the depth of your energy budget crisis, do you?

Open coffers.

--
He wasn't referring to your finance budget, but your energy budget. I
hesitate to say it can't be done in any practical sense, but that's my
thought.

Hi Ken,

His terse reply refers to the public coffers - troughs - open for this
fabulous pork barrel feast. You know, crack dealer capitalism.

Nothing has to actually work, or be useful, or even be used. It just
has to generate paper in one direction, and cash in the other. Ari is
mining us as a dry run for all the terms, shortfalls, and fits to the
jigsaw to rummage up into a proposal.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:55:29 -0700, Richard Clark wrote:


Open coffers.

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He wasn't referring to your finance budget, but your energy budget. I
hesitate to say it can't be done in any practical sense, but that's my
thought.

Hi Ken,

His terse reply refers to the public coffers - troughs - open for this
fabulous pork barrel feast. You know, crack dealer capitalism.

Nothing has to actually work, or be useful, or even be used. It just
has to generate paper in one direction, and cash in the other. Ari is
mining us as a dry run for all the terms, shortfalls, and fits to the
jigsaw to rummage up into a proposal.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Considering that we have many technologies in use, mof, all technologies
that are not in development are in use, this is a load of horse****. If we
build it to spec, whatever that spec is, it will be proprietary and how and
when they use it is not in our hands.
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On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:09:19 +1300, Ken Taylor wrote:

OK, this is just a re-run of previous speculations. You don't know
the depth of your energy budget crisis, do you?

Open coffers.

--
He wasn't referring to your finance budget, but your energy budget. I
hesitate to say it can't be done in any practical sense, but that's my
thought. The idea of one poster to transmit on the IF's is a good one but I
didn't suggest that because you'll also kill your emergency services comm's.

lol What;s being tossed around is the ability to allow FEMA et all to kill
the ability to transmit and/or we can upon knowing that the emerg comms are
in use.

Incidentally, do you plan to have every loco in the US fitted out or are you
going to fly the loco's to the incident site to do their stuff?

Cheers.

Ken


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