I just started on hf bands and i usiing now a FD4 from Fritzel and I hear
all goods things about the G5RV.
Is that so, works it's also great on 10 and 15m?
I have not to much space for a full size beam but a mini beam works also
good I think. But most of beginners started with a wire like a G5RV???
If I buy a G5RV is that with a Balun or without a balun what's the best??

73's Dave on4dsq

Willy wrote:
I just started on hf bands and i usiing now a FD4 from Fritzel and I hear
all goods things about the G5RV.
Is that so, works it's also great on 10 and 15m?

Nope, it's not very good on 10m and 15m. It is especially bad on 30m.
It works well on 80m, 40m, and 20m with a tuner. EZNEC says it also
works well on 12m. A G5RV is not an all-HF-band antenna but I have
an all-HF-band antenna on my web page.
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Cecil Moore wrote in message

Cecil, I have experience on the bands on 20 thru 10, but less
than a couple of dozen chats on the other bands in as many years.
Yesterday I scanned 80 and heard a spanish station but the East coast
were piling on him. The point I am mentioning it is that my antenna is
also horisontal polarised on the top of the tower. So I went to
top band and scanned it for DX but heard NONE even tho the band was
busy.
I decided to key up and had a few contacts at around 1000 miles
and with less with 30 watts and got very good reports.

Is this about normal for your G5RV which is also horizontally
polarised? I have never had a G5RV or a verticle for that matter
The noise level was around S8 to S9 and this just represented
the conditions for just last night. Transmission line is 7/8 coax
Antenna SWR 1:1 @ 65 feet
Regards
Art





...
Willy wrote:
I just started on hf bands and i usiing now a FD4 from Fritzel and I hear
all goods things about the G5RV.
Is that so, works it's also great on 10 and 15m?

Nope, it's not very good on 10m and 15m. It is especially bad on 30m.
It works well on 80m, 40m, and 20m with a tuner. EZNEC says it also
works well on 12m. A G5RV is not an all-HF-band antenna but I have
an all-HF-band antenna on my web page.

Art Unwin KB9MZ wrote:
Is this about normal for your G5RV which is also horizontally
polarised?

Art, I had a G5RV in AZ a few years ago. I had expected an all-HF-
band antenna but that's not what I got. So I studied it to find out
what was wrong. It was designed before the WARC bands and works well
on 80m, 40m, and 20m. At the height of the sunspot cycle, you can
work the world on 10m with a coat hanger and ten watts so the losses
on 10m may not be important. But EZNEC says the SWR on 10m is about
50-60:1.

I don't use a G5RV any more but I remember most of the data I
collected. Why it works well on 80m and 40m is illustrated on
my web page.
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In article ,
says...

I just started on hf bands and i usiing now a FD4 from Fritzel and I hear
all goods things about the G5RV.
Is that so, works it's also great on 10 and 15m?
I have not to much space for a full size beam but a mini beam works also
good I think. But most of beginners started with a wire like a G5RV???
If I buy a G5RV is that with a Balun or without a balun what's the best??

I have a "shorty" G5RV -- the full-length version goes to 80m, and
there's one for 160, but mine only goes 40m to 10m -- which does a
fairly decent job. It's not mounted in the best of places, due to the
need for me to be somewhat stealthy at my condo. I also run only QRP
power levels, mainly to mitigate the risk of interference complaints
among the neighbors, and have managed to make more than my share of
contacts using 5w on phone from 20 to 10 meters during contests like the
recent ARRL Sweepstakes. Hopefully conditions (and available operating
time) will be good for 10m this month for the ARRL 10m Contest.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:

Steve,
If yu can handle a full sized one 102' and you'll be very happy. Now you can
build it yourself OR you can buy one from various vendors. Me I decided to
"stay as true to G5RV's article" and bought a G5RV from W7FG.com as it is
tru ladder line and actually is only two wires from the PL259 connector to
the end. simple and it works. http://www.w7fg.com/ant.htm

G5RV 80 - 10 Meters (102 Feet)
With 31 feet of Ladder Line.........................$35
Requires Coax from supplied UHF Male connector to equipment.

Lloyd KD4HTW

"Steve Silverwood" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

I just started on hf bands and i usiing now a FD4 from Fritzel and I
hear
all goods things about the G5RV.
Is that so, works it's also great on 10 and 15m?
I have not to much space for a full size beam but a mini beam works also
good I think. But most of beginners started with a wire like a G5RV???
If I buy a G5RV is that with a Balun or without a balun what's the
best??

I have a "shorty" G5RV -- the full-length version goes to 80m, and
there's one for 160, but mine only goes 40m to 10m -- which does a
fairly decent job. It's not mounted in the best of places, due to the
need for me to be somewhat stealthy at my condo. I also run only QRP
power levels, mainly to mitigate the risk of interference complaints
among the neighbors, and have managed to make more than my share of
contacts using 5w on phone from 20 to 10 meters during contests like the
recent ARRL Sweepstakes. Hopefully conditions (and available operating
time) will be good for 10m this month for the ARRL 10m Contest.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:

Hi!
G5RV 80 - 10 Meters (102 Feet)
With 31 feet of Ladder Line.........................$35
Requires Coax from supplied UHF Male connector to equipment.

and symmetrical ATU ..........................$???

The G5RV works better by removing all the coax and taking open-wire line of
any convenient length all the way back to the shack. Dipole length can be
increased by as much as 40 feet with benefit.

Reg Edwards wrote:
The G5RV works better by removing all the coax and taking open-wire line of
any convenient length all the way back to the shack. Dipole length can be
increased by as much as 40 feet with benefit.

Not much of a G5RV then is it, Reg?

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , lloydm75
@hotmail.com says...
Steve,
If yu can handle a full sized one 102' and you'll be very happy. Now you can
build it yourself OR you can buy one from various vendors. Me I decided to
"stay as true to G5RV's article" and bought a G5RV from W7FG.com as it is
tru ladder line and actually is only two wires from the PL259 connector to
the end. simple and it works. http://www.w7fg.com/ant.htm

G5RV 80 - 10 Meters (102 Feet)
With 31 feet of Ladder Line.........................$35
Requires Coax from supplied UHF Male connector to equipment.

Believe me, if I could I would! But I'm in a condo and I don't have a
great deal of real estate in which to put up a decent-length antenna.
I'm having to content myself with 40-10 on the G5RV and a 2m vertical
for VHF operations. Hopefully I will be able to change over to a better
G5RV configuration soon, plus some beams for VHF and UHF, but that's a
ways down the road.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email: