Al Klein wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:54:31 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
You're preaching to the choir, Dave. I've had to handle foreign
language traffic phonetically by voice and by CW - and I much prefer
CW for that kind of work, even though I prefer voice for most
rag-chewing. As you say, needing it spelled out is quite slow.

I prefer phonetics myself. So are you advocating using the
coercive force of the federal government to enforce your
preferences instead of mine? Of course you are!

Of course you don't understand a thing Dave and I are discussing. It's
surprising that you can find the "on" switch on your computer.
well are you still tlaking to anybody here AL

your problem is that we all see your number way to well for your comfort

Al Klein wrote:
Of course you don't understand a thing Dave and I are discussing. It's
surprising that you can find the "on" switch on your computer.

My MENSA membership number is 1006281. What's yours?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
Of course you don't understand a thing Dave and I are discussing. It's
surprising that you can find the "on" switch on your computer.

My MENSA membership number is 1006281. What's yours?

now ccil must not be boastfull he was just expresing his own stupidity
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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from: on Thurs, Aug 24 2006 6:39 pm
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From: on Wed, Aug 23 2006 7:46 pm
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From: on Tues, Aug 22 2006 7:14 pm
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From: on Mon, Aug 21 2006 6:30 pm
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From: an old friend on Mon, Aug 21 2006 3:16 pm
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From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006 2:57 pm


In all my visits to USAF bases I've never seen any CAP
personnel there, let alone some in a poopy suit. I've seen
several civilians on USAF bases, employed by the USAF, wearing
flight suits and clearly identified as to being civilian.

Saturdays. They bring the kids in for a tour and a meal at the chow
hall.

OK, that explains it. :-) If I was on-site for some company
business, I wouldn't be there on weekends. :-)

I attended 3 weeks of CWPC training at Maxwell AFB in Montgomery,
Alabama. It hosts CAP HQ. Didn't see any CAP uniforms there, either.

Odd, though. The new owner of robesin's old vanity callsign, K4CAP,
resides in Montgomery, Alabama.

Oh, I don't know. After a hard day behind the microphone, he's got
that 1,000 yard stare.

That's also a symptom of anoxia...lack of oxygen used up in
his bragging of what he did that never was... :-)

Tsk, all that work he does in trying to bluff us. All he had to
do was present SOME sort of document proof or even a personal
snapshot taken while in that "hostile-action-filled" 18 year
"career" in the USMC. He hasn't done so after many years.

If he can't present a single item of 18 years of his life, it
is hard for the rest of us to believe anything he said.

I don't believe his bs.

Any rational, sane person can't believe his claims. Hopefully,
that is most of us reading some of the garbage going on in here
now.

Some of the whacko Anon's have championed robesin's cause, whatever it
might be.

I found it uproarious that Robeson tried to cover up his NOT
naming a single military radio that was operational during his
alleged 18-year "USMC career," claiming "all the information is
classified!" :-)

Scuse me while I blow the pepsi out of my nose.

Absolute bull****. The names, ID, functions have all been in
public view...the 'Public' being the makers or those wanting to
get in on an RFQ (Request for Quote) being advertised by the
DoD. Even though I never operated (as a civilian) anything
more than an old ARC-27 or PRC-119 SINCGARS, all the military
radios operational between the times of those two are easily
recognizeable to me (well, the VRCs have lots of differences
between families but the same case and general form). The
operating manuals are NOT classified, just in limited
distribution. LOGSA the Logistics Supply Agency is busy making
CDs of all the printed manuals for darn near ALL military
equipment; it's a piece of cake to pop one of those CDs in an
ever-present military PC and read them. LOGSA has a website
and even civilians can download some of the older equipment's
manuals. LOGSA has some internal priority on what can be
downloaded (depending on the cookie generated by a non-military
PC). That was a tip I got from rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
and rec.radio.amateur.homebrew. The nomenclatures and quick-
look facts are on a couple websites in a long, long, long list.
Even BAMA has some manuals for free download plus big link
lists for other sites that have them.

Too much work for robesin. So he just "classified" everything. He was
definitely confused by Major Vincent and his key on a necklace. Hah!

Robesin DID list some (questionable) nomenclatures for MARS
equipment once but NOTHING else. That kind of info can be
had from other hams' personal websites. MARS doesn't
normally talk about regular military tactical radio gear.
MARS doesn't normally use such. :-)



If he was involved in MARS, it was probably just to eavesdrop on morale
calls from a lonely GI to his wife or girlfriend back home.

Al Klein wrote in
:

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:54:31 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
You're preaching to the choir, Dave. I've had to handle foreign
language traffic phonetically by voice and by CW - and I much prefer
CW for that kind of work, even though I prefer voice for most
rag-chewing. As you say, needing it spelled out is quite slow.

I prefer phonetics myself. So are you advocating using the
coercive force of the federal government to enforce your
preferences instead of mine? Of course you are!

Of course you don't understand a thing Dave and I are discussing. It's
surprising that you can find the "on" switch on your computer.

plonk


ROFL

Cecil Moore wrote in news:XzIHg.720$Cq4.117
@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:

Al Klein wrote:
You're preaching to the choir, Dave. I've had to handle foreign
language traffic phonetically by voice and by CW - and I much prefer
CW for that kind of work, even though I prefer voice for most
rag-chewing. As you say, needing it spelled out is quite slow.

I prefer phonetics myself. So are you advocating using the
coercive force of the federal government to enforce your
preferences instead of mine? Of course you are!

Not me. MY federal government dropped the code requirement a while
back--and with my blessing. The sky didn't fall (at least not any
further than it already had). But having used CW professionally for
years, I know both its strengths and its weaknesses. Its main weakness
is that not everyone can do it. PSK31 and PACTOR get a bit of an edge on
it when there is no large ionospheric phase distortion happening, but
require significantly more equipment.

Back in 1976 when I was doing weather observing for a living on Sable
Island, we were required to send the results of two balloon soundings and
hourly surface observations to Halifax by RTTY. At night that 2mhz RTTY
circuit often became impossible. Nor was the AM circuit any good. I
frequently got out a key and sent it on CW. It was actually funny when
one of the department's high mucky-muck techs came out to the island to
fix the problem. I pointed out that verticals were great on 2mhz for a
192 mile path in the daytime but that they got bogged down in DX signals
and QRN at night and suggested that he could improve things by giving us
dipoles at both ends for night use. I also suggested that a properly
designed VHF link would be superior. He laughed at me. Funny thing is,
that man's son went out to Sable afterwards and installed a beacon that I
could ALWAYS hear in Halifax, running 8 watts on 144mhz.

The thing is, you don't always know what is saving a life. Those weather
observations may have made no difference to anything or they may have
made a huge difference to how someone flew a 747.


--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
VA7CZ

Cecil Moore wrote in news:KPJHg.39$6R7.22
@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com:

Al Klein wrote:
Of course you don't understand a thing Dave and I are discussing. It's
surprising that you can find the "on" switch on your computer.

My MENSA membership number is 1006281. What's yours?

I don't bother with low-IQ clubs myself. Or high-IQ ones for that matter.

I did do some work on the question of human intelligence back in the 60's.
It was interesting. We used factor analysis (now called PCA) and came to
the conclusion that it is a six-dimensional vector quantity--to the extent
you can measure it at all.


--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667

Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
David's choice was Spanish. My choice was a language one couldn't
understand. Pay attention.

Sorry Al, here's what you said:
Even if you didn't know "ola" from
"adios", you can copy Spanish in CW and hand it to the recipient, who
can read it. Try that with a mic.

Your words, not David's. You implied *Spanish* couldn't
be copied with a mic by a non-Spanish speaking person.
I showed that it can be done.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

I'll bet copying a message by voice from someone with the cyrillic
alphabet would end up a lot better results than copying the same
message with cw.

My MENSA membership number is 1006281. What's yours?

What's your Social Security number?

Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
As I said in another post, try that in Turkish. Or Latvian. Or any
other language you don't know a single word of.

Sorry, you first challenged me to do that in Spanish.
I have proved beyond any doubt that I can do that.
Your need to suddenly change languages on me speaks
volumes.


But in what language?