Be sure that the Gutters are not grounded. If you have Aluminum Siding, the
gutters maybe attached to the siding. A quick check with an ohmmeter should
verify that.
Other wise the gutters make a great antenna.

"Rayburn" wrote in message
...
Copper and aluminum Gutters work great!...If they only run across the
front and back of the house you can connect them with a small wire across
the roof to make for a nice long antenna!

For example I'm hooked to the bottom of a downspout near the ground on my
3 story home....about 28 feet up the guttering starts and runs 25 feet
across the back of the house......I connected a wire across the roof (60
feet long) to the end of the front gutter thats the same height and
length.

166 feet of antenna in the shape of an upside down U !

I buried a couple of ground radials next to a fence for 160...80....40 and
added a few short ones for 20 /15 and 10 about an inch deep in the
yard.....works great with a tuner and is fantastic on the L and AM bands
for reception as well!

Other than a small 4 inch length of coax behind the house next to the
garage door.....Its invisible!
wrote in message
ups.com...
Help. I've been licensed since 1967, but I haven't been active for
about 20 years. I just bought a FT-101EE with a Cushcraft R4 vertical
antenna, however there are restrictions in my subdivision about
antennas. I'm thinking my best bet may be a long wire between my house
and a neighbor's tree with a tuner. I know this is an ago old battle,
any ideas for an inconspicuous HF antenna?

Do you have licence? If yes, you are legall, put antenna up!!!!!
Dont listen this all b. s.


wrote in message
ups.com...
Help. I've been licensed since 1967, but I haven't been active for
about 20 years. I just bought a FT-101EE with a Cushcraft R4 vertical
antenna, however there are restrictions in my subdivision about
antennas. I'm thinking my best bet may be a long wire between my house
and a neighbor's tree with a tuner. I know this is an ago old battle,
any ideas for an inconspicuous HF antenna?

Siding works too. depending on if it's grounded or not.

I think my strangest antenna was when I connected wires from my tuner
to each of the two window screens in the corner room. I worked
california from Georgia on 10 meters.

Buck
N4PGW



On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:02:25 -0400, "Howard W3CQH"
wrote:

Be sure that the Gutters are not grounded. If you have Aluminum Siding, the
gutters maybe attached to the siding. A quick check with an ohmmeter should
verify that.
Other wise the gutters make a great antenna.

"Rayburn" wrote in message
.. .
Copper and aluminum Gutters work great!...If they only run across the
front and back of the house you can connect them with a small wire across
the roof to make for a nice long antenna!

For example I'm hooked to the bottom of a downspout near the ground on my
3 story home....about 28 feet up the guttering starts and runs 25 feet
across the back of the house......I connected a wire across the roof (60
feet long) to the end of the front gutter thats the same height and
length.

166 feet of antenna in the shape of an upside down U !

I buried a couple of ground radials next to a fence for 160...80....40 and
added a few short ones for 20 /15 and 10 about an inch deep in the
yard.....works great with a tuner and is fantastic on the L and AM bands
for reception as well!

Other than a small 4 inch length of coax behind the house next to the
garage door.....Its invisible!
wrote in message
ups.com...
Help. I've been licensed since 1967, but I haven't been active for
about 20 years. I just bought a FT-101EE with a Cushcraft R4 vertical
antenna, however there are restrictions in my subdivision about
antennas. I'm thinking my best bet may be a long wire between my house
and a neighbor's tree with a tuner. I know this is an ago old battle,
any ideas for an inconspicuous HF antenna?





--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:23:22 -0400, Buck wrote:


I think my strangest antenna was when I connected wires from my tuner
to each of the two window screens in the corner room. I worked
california from Georgia on 10 meters.

------------ REPLY SEPARATOR ------------

My strangest was a six meter dipole buried about a foot underground. I
worked one station about ten miles away.

About a week later I received my WAE award. (Worked All Earthworms).

Bill, W6WRT

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:34:49 -0700, Bill Turner
wrote:

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:23:22 -0400, Buck wrote:


I think my strangest antenna was when I connected wires from my tuner
to each of the two window screens in the corner room. I worked
california from Georgia on 10 meters.

------------ REPLY SEPARATOR ------------

My strangest was a six meter dipole buried about a foot underground. I
worked one station about ten miles away.

About a week later I received my WAE award. (Worked All Earthworms).

Bill, W6WRT


How did you wind up with a dipole buried underground? Were you trying
to make a resonant dummy load?


--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

Bob wrote:

Do you have licence? If yes, you are legall, put antenna up!!!!!
Dont listen this all b. s.


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This is not quite accurate. If he signed a contract, i.e. agreed to a set of
CC&Rs in a private subdivision at the time of purchase, he is obliged to honor
the contract. Contract law in private, not public, domain trumps PRB-1.

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wrote in message
ups.com...

Help. I've been licensed since 1967, but I haven't been active for
about 20 years. I just bought a FT-101EE with a Cushcraft R4 vertical
antenna, however there are restrictions in my subdivision about
antennas. I'm thinking my best bet may be a long wire between my house
and a neighbor's tree with a tuner. I know this is an ago old battle,
any ideas for an inconspicuous HF antenna?

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:43:25 -0400, Buck wrote:


How did you wind up with a dipole buried underground? Were you trying
to make a resonant dummy load?


------------ REPLY SEPARATOR ------------

There was an article in QST about underground antennas. It might have
been an April fool's article but it was so long ago I don't remember
for sure. I was 14 or 15 and anything seemed possible. :-)

Years later I came to the conclusion that I worked the other guy with
incidental radiation from the rig itself and/or the coax feedline, not
the antenna itself.

Bill, W6WRT

Bill Turner wrote:
There was an article in QST about underground antennas. It might have
been an April fool's article but it was so long ago I don't remember
for sure. I was 14 or 15 and anything seemed possible. :-)

Back in the '50's, Larsen E. Rapp got me with one of those
articles. He said we could create an "amplitude discriminator"
with "back to back limiters". That way, we could simply
discriminate by tuning out the strong signal and tuning
in the weak signal. I asked W5OLV how to build back to
back limiters. He couldn't stop laughing.
--
73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cecil Moore wrote:

Bill Turner wrote:

There was an article in QST about underground antennas. It might have
been an April fool's article but it was so long ago I don't remember
for sure. I was 14 or 15 and anything seemed possible. :-)


Back in the '50's, Larsen E. Rapp got me with one of those
articles. He said we could create an "amplitude discriminator"
with "back to back limiters". That way, we could simply
discriminate by tuning out the strong signal and tuning
in the weak signal. I asked W5OLV how to build back to
back limiters. He couldn't stop laughing.


I still like to think about an article in "Popular Electronics" back in
the late 50's or early 60's about "CONTRA POLAR ENERGY". This principal
worked in the exact opposite manner to regular energy: electric lamps
absorbed light, heaters froze etc. It got me for many years until
someone queried PE about it years later. The cat was let out out the
bag. To bad it was an interesting concept.

Dave N

"Dave" wrote in message
. ..
Bob wrote:

Do you have licence? If yes, you are legall, put antenna up!!!!!
Dont listen this all b. s.


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This is not quite accurate. If he signed a contract, i.e. agreed to a set
of CC&Rs in a private subdivision at the time of purchase, he is obliged
to honor the contract. Contract law in private, not public, domain trumps
PRB-1.

------ reply separator -------

wrote in message
ups.com...

Help. I've been licensed since 1967, but I haven't been active for
about 20 years. I just bought a FT-101EE with a Cushcraft R4 vertical
antenna, however there are restrictions in my subdivision about
antennas. I'm thinking my best bet may be a long wire between my house
and a neighbor's tree with a tuner. I know this is an ago old battle,
any ideas for an inconspicuous HF antenna?


I believe President Bush just signed a law preventing subdivisions/HOAs from
prohibiting flagpoles. Sounds like a flagpole antenna now trumps
subdivisions/HOAs!