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Old February 29th 04, 05:22 AM
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Roger Halstead wrote:

OTOH, there are many tubes in the multi KW range that are Huge. I've
seen pictures of "walk in" tubes that had an air lock.


If you ever find those pics, _PLEASE_ scan them and put them up on a
website somewhere, or mail the scanned images to me so that I can put
them on mine.

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Old March 3rd 04, 04:07 AM
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OTOH, there are many tubes in the multi KW range that are Huge. I've
seen pictures of "walk in" tubes that had an air lock.


"I believe" it was the old VOA station. "It seems" like there was a
story on it wayyyy back in QST. Maybe in the 60s or 70s.
OTOH it could have been one of the very high powered VLF stations. At
least those are a couple of good places to start.


Most likely you are remembering the plate coil and capacitor output network of
one of the old Navy VLF stations. I remember photos of a big room full of the
inductor and some capacitors that looked like they'd hopped off telephone
poles. The room had copper plated walls and an interlock on the door to cut
the juice if someone opened it.

I doubt there were ever walk-in tubes. The vacuum required for any kindof tube
life is so "hard" and pure that you wouldn't be able to pump out a whole room
to that purity. Though maybe with a really big "getter" ... Mike K.



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Old March 3rd 04, 02:49 PM
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Mike Knudsen wrote:

I doubt there were ever walk-in tubes. The vacuum required for any kindof tube
life is so "hard" and pure that you wouldn't be able to pump out a whole room
to that purity. Though maybe with a really big "getter" ... Mike K.


I have this image of someone walking in through the airlock with a
_big_ container of cesium or strontium, to be used as a getter, and
hooking it up to a pair of terminals on the inside of the tube once
it has been baked and pumped down for a while.

I also have this image of an enormous induction heater, with coils
completely surrounding the tube, forepumps the size of modern fanjet
engines, and diffusion pumps slinging kiloliters of oil per second.

Somehow, I think it's just not viable.

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Old March 3rd 04, 04:17 PM
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Mike Andrews wrote:
Mike Knudsen wrote:

I doubt there were ever walk-in tubes. The vacuum required for any kindof tube
life is so "hard" and pure that you wouldn't be able to pump out a whole room
to that purity. Though maybe with a really big "getter" ... Mike K.


I have this image of someone walking in through the airlock with a
_big_ container of cesium or strontium, to be used as a getter, and
hooking it up to a pair of terminals on the inside of the tube once
it has been baked and pumped down for a while.

I also have this image of an enormous induction heater, with coils
completely surrounding the tube, forepumps the size of modern fanjet
engines, and diffusion pumps slinging kiloliters of oil per second.

Somehow, I think it's just not viable.


I believe that in Rocket Ship Galileo, Heinlein discussed vacuum tubes
on the moon. No external envelope needed, just shielding.
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Old March 3rd 04, 04:28 PM
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Scott Dorsey wrote:

I believe that in Rocket Ship Galileo, Heinlein discussed vacuum tubes
on the moon. No external envelope needed, just shielding.


He did. Should make for _great_ transmitting-tube laboratories.

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Old March 4th 04, 03:47 AM
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Mike Knudsen wrote:

I doubt there were ever walk-in tubes. The vacuum required for any kindof tube
life is so "hard" and pure that you wouldn't be able to pump out a whole room
to that purity. Though maybe with a really big "getter" ... Mike K.




I don't know about walk in tubes but I do recall visiting a UK Post
Office radio station many years ago and walking into the final
amplifier where there was at least one tube which I recall as being
around 4 or 5 feet high (maybe more) which had a water cooling system.
If it means anything to anyone the station was at Leafield in
Oxfordshire.

Dave
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