Did the Heathkit SB-303 use tubes? Nuff said there. The speech compressor is
housed in an aluminum cabinet painted gray, is about 5 in wide, 3 1/2 inches
tall and 7 inches deep.It has a black face panel with four knobs at the top
labeled left to right-Gain, Blanker, Level and Volume. At the bottom is a 4
pin male mic input on the left, a in/out, off/on switch in the bottom middle
and a 1/4 inch phones jack on the bottom right.

There are no names on the unit, inside or out. No model numer, serial number
or anything.

That is a basic description of what was in the picture. I posted to the
group with a picture due to the fact there were no names or any info on or
in the unit. I was not expecting to be jumped on like a piece of meat in a
lions den. Never dreamed hams could be so nasty. And I do post pics in quite
a few groups. If this one can't handle a pic for informational purposes,
what good is it? I look at it this way, if you don't like what I do, stay in
your own yard and don't look over the hedge row and I will do the same.
Thats the problem with the world today, everybody want to run something and
no one agrees on how to run it. Just ask Bill and Hillary Clinton.

And no, it does not use tubes, but one of the chips inside has a date of
1970, so it was built at the same time as many boat anchors. And yes google
does archive binary posts. Just looked at one a few minutes ago.

Trent
"Michael Black" wrote in message
...

"Trent Hancock" ) writes:
Well, pardon the hell out of me. I'll try and not make a world shaking
mistake again on your news group!

Trent

It's not his newsgroup, but he's telling you the proper way to deal
with this. It has nothing to do with this newsgroup, it has everything
to do with every newsgroup.

Take note that here, your message didn't even arrive. It was a binary
post, and the newsserver didn't bother to grab it. Since binary messages
do take up a lot of space, this isn't going to be the only place that
deleted the message. Take note also that binary messages are not saved at
the google archive, so anyone who reads the newsgroup there will never see
your message.

If people don't see your message, then nobody will be able to help you.

If people don't see the binary, then there's no sense in sending it in
the first place.

YOu expected the photo to convey all the information, which some/many
will not see, yet you gave no detail in text that would take infinitely
less space than the photo. SOmeone might recognize the name, yet the
only way they'll find out is by looking at the photo.

And since were at it, what makes you think the unit is a boatanchor?
Does it use tubes?

Michael VE2BVW


"Bruce Lane" wrote in message
.. .
In article . net,
says...

Anyone know who made this speech compressor and maybe even what type
batteries it uses?

Thanks in advance,

Trent Hancock
KR4UW



begin 666 comp1.jpg
M_]C_X `02D9)1@`!`0$`R #(``#_VP!#``,"`@,"`@,#`P,$`P,$!0@%!00$
M!0H'!P8(# H,# L*"PL-#A(0#0X1#@L+$!80$1,4%145# \7&!84&!(4%13_

snip

Please don't post binaries to a text-only newsgroup. There are a
number of reasons for this, including (but not limited to):

(1) Many people, particularly outside the U.S., use a text-based
reader for Usenet that cannot handle binary images. Your encoded
information would have shown up as page after page of text gibberish to
them, which puts a real crimp in the possibility that someone overseas
might know an answer to your question.

(2) It wastes bandwidth. ISPs who carry the non-binary side of the
Usenet hierarchy expect them to stay that way.

(3) Perhaps most important: There are many folks, again outside
the U.S., who may not be able to get anything other than a dialup pay-
per-kilobyte-downloaded Internet hookup. By posting a binary to a non-
binary group, you are forcing them to download something that they may
not want to see, and that increases their connection cost.

The correct way to handle what you did here would have been to
post the picture of the device on a web site, then include a link in
your Usenet posting that points towards the picture.

Good luck identifying your unit.


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
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"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
nk.net...

Did the Heathkit SB-303 use tubes? Nuff said there.

And no, it does not use tubes,

Trent


And somehow, this makes sense to you?

Ed
wb6wsn

Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This does not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land as hard.

Trent
KR4UW
"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:LI1Jd.94$Jt.71@fed1read02...

"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
nk.net...

Did the Heathkit SB-303 use tubes? Nuff said there.

And no, it does not use tubes,

Trent


And somehow, this makes sense to you?

Ed
wb6wsn

"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
news
Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This does
not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land as
hard.

Trent
KR4UW
"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:LI1Jd.94$Jt.71@fed1read02...

"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
nk.net...

Did the Heathkit SB-303 use tubes? Nuff said there.

And no, it does not use tubes,

Trent


And somehow, this makes sense to you?

Ed
wb6wsn




You may define equipment as you wish; however, your wishes are not
universally accepted fact.

I will take your advice about parachutes; you are obviously an expert on
inverted hard landings.

Ed
wb6wsn

Ed Price wrote:
"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
news
Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat
anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a
boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This
does
not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land
as
hard.

Trent
KR4UW


Trent - your response to the first post, which was written in a polite
and helpful tone, nor your responses to subsequent posts, does not
motivate one to go out of the way to help you.

Nevertheless, as it appears that it's probably a homebrew unit, I
recommend you open the cover and see what chip(s) it uses, then do some
research to reverse-engineer it. I have several pieces of homebrew
equipment that you'd swear were factory made - but in the case of a
synthesized VFO, the fact that it was the subject of a QST article back
in the 1960s was the only thing that gave it away as a homebrew unit of
extraordinary quality.

Signetics made some compressor/compandor chips back in the 1970s and
1980s - IIRC the NE571 is one such IC.

Good luck and 73, John W3JN

My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained. Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty messages
posted to them.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.
Does not say much for the users of this group. I left chicken band in the
early 90's to escape the rude ill mannered people that were there and became
a ham due to what I heard on the bands. People talked with each other and
did not use foul language and call names and were polite. That is why I came
to the group to try and get some information on a piece of equipment. The
first response was a "YOU DID A NO-NO". What was written you may call
polite, but I beg to differ. The Usenet is just that, a Usenet. It is for
all of us to use and not for a select few to control.

On another note, I did open it up and it uses Motorola chips which I can not
cross. The dates on the chips are 1970 and it appears to operate off 15
volts using two 7 1/2 volt batteries. I did get it to operating and it seems
to work well on my Drake TR-4 and my SB-401. Got good reports and much
better PEP with little clipping.

Thanks for the help and I am sorry for blowing off some steam, but I am the
type of person, that when jumped at with no explanation, will jump back. If
I do something wrong, tell me what I did wrong and ask me not to do it
again. Go the other way and I can get very hard headed. I don't take kindly
to being TOLD what I will do.

Trent
wrote in message
oups.com...

Ed Price wrote:
"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
news
Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat
anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a
boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This
does
not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land
as
hard.

Trent
KR4UW


Trent - your response to the first post, which was written in a polite
and helpful tone, nor your responses to subsequent posts, does not
motivate one to go out of the way to help you.

Nevertheless, as it appears that it's probably a homebrew unit, I
recommend you open the cover and see what chip(s) it uses, then do some
research to reverse-engineer it. I have several pieces of homebrew
equipment that you'd swear were factory made - but in the case of a
synthesized VFO, the fact that it was the subject of a QST article back
in the 1960s was the only thing that gave it away as a homebrew unit of
extraordinary quality.

Signetics made some compressor/compandor chips back in the 1970s and
1980s - IIRC the NE571 is one such IC.

Good luck and 73, John W3JN

"Trent Hancock" wrote

I am the type of person, that when jumped at with no explanation, will jump
back. If
I do something wrong, tell me what I did wrong and ask me not to do it
again. Go the other way and I can get very hard headed. I don't take kindly
to being TOLD what I will do.


***You great pillock,just what do you think the following cut and paste of
the first reply to your post to is?
He couldn't have been more instructive or polite,he even wrote"please".

Bruce Lane wrote:-
"Please don't post binaries to a text-only newsgroup. There are a
number of reasons for this, including (but not limited to):

(1) Many people, particularly outside the U.S., use a text-based
reader for Usenet that cannot handle binary images. Your encoded
information would have shown up as page after page of text gibberish to
them, which puts a real crimp in the possibility that someone overseas
might know an answer to your question.

(2) It wastes bandwidth. ISPs who carry the non-binary side of the
Usenet hierarchy expect them to stay that way.

(3) Perhaps most important: There are many folks, again outside
the U.S., who may not be able to get anything other than a dialup pay-
per-kilobyte-downloaded Internet hookup. By posting a binary to a non-
binary group, you are forcing them to download something that they may
not want to see, and that increases their connection cost.

The correct way to handle what you did here would have been to
post the picture of the device on a web site, then include a link in
your Usenet posting that points towards the picture."


Your arrogance is astounding!!

Bah.HUMBUG!!!!


Brian Goldsmith.

Well now you learned something handcock faggot. Go
slurp more cum at the truckstop ya limpwristed
sissy.




On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:40:40 GMT, "Trent Hancock"
wrote:

My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained. Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty messages
posted to them.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.
Does not say much for the users of this group. I left chicken band in the
early 90's to escape the rude ill mannered people that were there and became
a ham due to what I heard on the bands. People talked with each other and
did not use foul language and call names and were polite. That is why I came
to the group to try and get some information on a piece of equipment. The
first response was a "YOU DID A NO-NO". What was written you may call
polite, but I beg to differ. The Usenet is just that, a Usenet. It is for
all of us to use and not for a select few to control.

On another note, I did open it up and it uses Motorola chips which I can not
cross. The dates on the chips are 1970 and it appears to operate off 15
volts using two 7 1/2 volt batteries. I did get it to operating and it seems
to work well on my Drake TR-4 and my SB-401. Got good reports and much
better PEP with little clipping.

Thanks for the help and I am sorry for blowing off some steam, but I am the
type of person, that when jumped at with no explanation, will jump back. If
I do something wrong, tell me what I did wrong and ask me not to do it
again. Go the other way and I can get very hard headed. I don't take kindly
to being TOLD what I will do.

Trent
wrote in message
roups.com...

Ed Price wrote:
"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
news Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat
anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a
boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This
does
not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land
as
hard.

Trent
KR4UW


Trent - your response to the first post, which was written in a polite
and helpful tone, nor your responses to subsequent posts, does not
motivate one to go out of the way to help you.

Nevertheless, as it appears that it's probably a homebrew unit, I
recommend you open the cover and see what chip(s) it uses, then do some
research to reverse-engineer it. I have several pieces of homebrew
equipment that you'd swear were factory made - but in the case of a
synthesized VFO, the fact that it was the subject of a QST article back
in the 1960s was the only thing that gave it away as a homebrew unit of
extraordinary quality.

Signetics made some compressor/compandor chips back in the 1970s and
1980s - IIRC the NE571 is one such IC.

Good luck and 73, John W3JN



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Trent Hancock wrote:
My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained. Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty messages
posted to them.

It's explained in news.announce.newusers. NONE of the big eight groups allow
any binaries. This is just so fundamental that anyone who has been through
the introductory material in news.announce.newusers has been told a dozen
times about this. Posting binaries to discussion groups is about the most
rude possible thing you can do on Usenet.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.

This "net" is just part of the big eight. If you did something equivalently
boneheaded to any of the other big eight groups you would have got a similar
response.

I'd mail this to you, but you seem to have some sort of goofy challenge/response
mail system.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all
text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained.
Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty messages
posted to them.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of
turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.
Does not say much for the users of this group.


I'm not playing net-cop so much as logic enforcer. My News server trimmed
your attachment before I ever saw anything, so it's nothing to me.

However, YOU have a few problems, and they could be illuminated just by you
reading your own postings. You claim to be a long-term Usenet user, yet you
jump in and post a binary to a non-binary group. This is equivalent to
transmitting before checking the frequency. Doesn't say much for your
courtesy, experience or common sense.

But your real problem is humility; you just can't say something simple like
"oops, sorry". No, you have to hang in there and chew it death. And all the
while, new issues keep being added and the hostility level is ratcheting up,
and you're just displaying what an ass you are.

This isn't a good ol' boy issue; it's simply that this group doesn't easily
suffer the rude, ignorant, profane and hostile.

Ed
wb6wsn