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same songs, new band - legal questions
I have a new band, with all new musicians. We are playing some of the
same songs, that I wrote, from my last band. Do any of the musicians in my previous project(s) have any legal claim over the performance or sale of these songs as recorded by my new band? I ask because my ex-bass player sent me this email: "hey, i heard you guys playing a NEW tune,while smoking outside our studio last night. not bad at all, only one slight problem though..., you may have copyrights to the songs, but those are my bass lines and i have already spoken to my attorney,and he suggested that i try this email first,to nicely ask you not to play anymore of my bass lines. under the law,no matter if you own the copyrights to the songs, those are my bass lines.i don't have to have them protected by copyrights, just simply have a recording with me as the bass player on the cd.if you for some reason don't agree... maybe you should look it up... it's the law... and i don't appreciate being ripped off that way...people around town are" listening " for me..this doesn't have to get ugly...just change the bass lines ....no problemo..." Ironic because he always complained that I told him what to play and wrote his basslines for him... sigh |
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Josh wrote:
I have a new band, with all new musicians. We are playing some of the same songs, that I wrote, from my last band. Do any of the musicians in my previous project(s) have any legal claim over the performance or sale of these songs as recorded by my new band? Did you have a contract with any of the other performers? If there is no contract, there is no way to tell whether they have actual legal claim or not without going to court. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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"Josh" writes:
songs, that I wrote, from my last band. my ex-bass player sent me this email: "hey, [...] those are my bass lines and i have already spoken to my attorney no matter if you own the copyrights to the songs, those are my bass lines.i don't have to have them protected by copyrights, just simply have a recording with me as the bass player on the cd. I would ask him to more clearly state his claim. From his email, I can't tell if he thinks: 1. You alone did not write the song: it is a joint work of which he is also the author. 2. He is the sole author of a song, comprised entirely of those bass lines, to which you have no right. He objects to your creating and performing a new derivative work by playing them along with your song, 3. He owns the bass lines merely because he was the first person to perform them, even though you composed them and told him to play them for you. He doesn't have any right to the music merely from having played it. So he must be trying to say that you are fraudulently claiming the copyright, or are infringing on his copyrighted song. Simply put: he is claiming that he is the author, not you. You may wind up in court, having to prove that you are the sole author of the bass lines. The question will be who first fixed the music into tangible form. If you wrote them down first (on a scrap of paper or anything), and then showed them to him, you are almost certainly the author. On the other hand, if you told him verbally what to play, and then they were played by him into a tape recorder before being written down, it could be a little more complicated. One question will be who was agreed to be the owner of the recording. One question would be about your exact relationship to him at the time. Another question will be about the circumstances of when the song was first set onto paper (such as who was there, how did your name get on it, when did he become aware of this, etc.) If he has already consulted with a lawyer who has advised him on this matter, it seems very strange that he didn't get the lawyer to write this first complaint letter for him. It is also incredible that a lawyer would tell him that your copyright on the music in question is not relevent. It is the only issue. My guess is that he has not really presented the facts to any lawyer who has actually given him advice. Maybe he ran some version of his story by some lawyer (who may or may not actually know anything about the entertainment industry or copyright law) on an informal basis, and who gave him no advice to rely upon. By suggesting that this is not about copyright, he is certainly mischaracterizing what any lawyer would say, to such a degree that it's hard to believe him at all. I'm no lawyer, but I can tell you that he has no right to the song merely because he performed it on a CD. Performance rights (for you or him or anyone to play the wong) belong entirely to the (copyright) owner of the song. |
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This might be similar to the Parliament/Funkadelic matter in the early
70s, although it is different in other ways. An interesting aside, I know of someone who did a song entirely of snippets of songs that used the same four-chord progression. An example of where this chord progression was found would be Five for Fighting's 'Superman'. All the songs used were hits, and never more than the relevant phrases sung over the progressions. and never more than one phrase was used from any song. About 20-30 songs were used, the song came in at about five minutes . Was a huge hit at the no-booze club where I heard it. The performer did it live. |
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