On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:05:24 +0100, " Peter"
wrote in :

"Frank Gilliland" wrote...

How about some feedback from a customer (not a shill) after they have
installed it and used it for a couple months in the real world? Or,
even better, how about from some of the people on the other end (i.e,
the RECEIVING end -- why do I have to spell it out for you?)?

And what happened to the rest of my post? You know, the part about how
the human brain functions in a way that the use of a noise gate in
this application makes the audio sound worse rather than better?

Humans, with brains... are you forgetting this is a CB newsgroup.
We keep our shoes on and leave our brains at the door.


......oops, my bad.


A short while back, I changed telephone provider. The new provider
had different systems.
It is difficult enough talking to "customer service" staff, who
clearly didn't learn English in an English speaking country, but the
noise reduction was cutting off bits that really were important
components of speech.

Even without that, the silience between words or phrases is not
natural. It leaves you unsure whether they are just not talking,
or the line has died again.
Every now and then, the sound of them tapping (hard) on computer
keys would give it away.


That's what I was talking about when I mentioned Comcast digital
voice. A friend of mine got it and it's really annoying. Sounds like
she keeps hanging up or the line goes dead. But she's stuck with it
for several more months because of the contract.... I think it's a
rip-off. Going from full-duplex to psuedo/half-duplex is an upgrade?
Not in my book.


Human perception plays a paramount role in the
design of any audio (or video) technology.

It should, but I believe that too much is done on a bench, behind
a desk or on paper. Even large organisations can forget that real
life may be different.


That's exactly the kind of rift that the field of "human engineering"
works to avoid.


You might even say it's absolutely critical. There's even a
facet of engineering called "human engineering" which deals
almost exclusively with interactions between humans
and technology....

Tell that to Web site designers.
Have you ever been to a Web site and given up before the first
page even loaded? I know I have, many times.


I have dial-up. Nuff said.


No consideration for the people who it is for, the visitors,
whether it will be usable by them or even if site provides what
they really want.


I think it's a vast, right-wing conspiracy to get you to buy the
fastest computer with the latest version of windoze. But then I'm
paranoid.... (and no, I'd -never- vote for Hillary!!!)


I wonder if Brian has considered whether another speech processor
is really what the CB community really needs right now. Tell me, is
America screeming out for processors aimed at the CB market?


It's really pretty redundant, since almost every radio built since the
1960's has had some form of AGC in the mic line. If he were to use the
noise gate to trigger a keyer relay, use the processor to increase the
peak-to-average level to 40 or 50%, then put it in a box and not lie
about the specs, he could easily sell them for SSB rigs of all types,
ham included. But alas, as you stated befo

....this is a CB newsgroup.
We keep our shoes on and leave our brains at the door.