Hello All:

Anybody getting DX skip stations that come in and go in a matter of only
a few seconds. I have a 2 and a 4 element quad beam antenna up and
testing. I have this fast in and out skip stations on all of my antennas.

Jay in the Mojave

Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Hello All:

Anybody getting DX skip stations that come in and go in a matter of only
a few seconds. I have a 2 and a 4 element quad beam antenna up and
testing. I have this fast in and out skip stations on all of my antennas.

Jay in the Mojave

Hello Jay

I had a bit of that over the weekend but the band has been fairly quiet
over here for the past week or so otherwise. The ground-wave has still been
in there fairly consistent.

Steveo wrote:
Jay in the Mojave wrote:

Hello All:

Anybody getting DX skip stations that come in and go in a matter of only
a few seconds. I have a 2 and a 4 element quad beam antenna up and
testing. I have this fast in and out skip stations on all of my antennas.

Jay in the Mojave


Hello Jay

I had a bit of that over the weekend but the band has been fairly quiet
over here for the past week or so otherwise. The ground-wave has still been
in there fairly consistent.

Steveo:

Yeah still seeing the skip in and out. But then this weekend it was in
there pretty good. Hearing stations 100 miles away, no problem, and back
east. Should be gettin skip condations this weekend I hope.

Jay in the Mojave

On Sep 7, 10:27 pm, Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Hello All:

Anybody getting DX skip stations that come in and go in a matter of only
a few seconds. I have a 2 and a 4 element quad beam antenna up and
testing. I have this fast in and out skip stations on all of my antennas.

Jay in the Mojave

It may be that you are getting short propagation events from the
ionized tails of meteors reflecting distant signals .
There have been long-haul comm systems built to utilize this effect,
they sound for a path and send a data burst when there is an open
path.
phil

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:05:54 -0700, static
wrote:

|On Sep 7, 10:27 pm, Jay in the Mojave wrote:
| Hello All:
|
| Anybody getting DX skip stations that come in and go in a matter of only
| a few seconds. I have a 2 and a 4 element quad beam antenna up and
| testing. I have this fast in and out skip stations on all of my antennas.
|
| Jay in the Mojave
|
|It may be that you are getting short propagation events from the
|ionized tails of meteors reflecting distant signals .
|There have been long-haul comm systems built to utilize this effect,
|they sound for a path and send a data burst when there is an open
|path.
|phil
|-----------

I can see meteor ionization working for short time duration at VHF
frequencies down to about 50MHz but was unaware that effect worked
down around 28 MHz. Then again if the atmosphere is quiet enough it
could be possible.

I know that one can get sporadic E for periods between 10 seconds to
on hour range.

james

wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:05:54 -0700, static
wrote:

|On Sep 7, 10:27 pm, Jay in the Mojave wrote:
| Hello All:
|
| Anybody getting DX skip stations that come in and go in a matter of
| only a few seconds. I have a 2 and a 4 element quad beam antenna up
| and testing. I have this fast in and out skip stations on all of my
| antennas.
|
| Jay in the Mojave
|
|It may be that you are getting short propagation events from the
|ionized tails of meteors reflecting distant signals .
|There have been long-haul comm systems built to utilize this effect,
|they sound for a path and send a data burst when there is an open
|path.
|phil
|-----------

I can see meteor ionization working for short time duration at VHF
frequencies down to about 50MHz but was unaware that effect worked
down around 28 MHz. Then again if the atmosphere is quiet enough it
could be possible.

I know that one can get sporadic E for periods between 10 seconds to
on hour range.

james

Yep, and in different directions at the same time too.

Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Steveo wrote:
Jay in the Mojave wrote:

Hello All:

Anybody getting DX skip stations that come in and go in a matter of
only a few seconds. I have a 2 and a 4 element quad beam antenna up and
testing. I have this fast in and out skip stations on all of my
antennas.

Jay in the Mojave


Hello Jay

I had a bit of that over the weekend but the band has been fairly quiet
over here for the past week or so otherwise. The ground-wave has still
been in there fairly consistent.

Steveo:

Yeah still seeing the skip in and out. But then this weekend it was in
there pretty good. Hearing stations 100 miles away, no problem, and back
east. Should be gettin skip condations this weekend I hope.

Jay in the Mojave

Hi Jay

That 100 mile mark makes it fun, I like it more than DX mostly because you
can usually carry on a qso with the guy much longer than a skip contact.

It's a better test of your gear too, imo.

static wrote:
On Sep 7, 10:27 pm, Jay in the Mojave wrote:

Hello All:

Anybody getting DX skip stations that come in and go in a matter of only
a few seconds. I have a 2 and a 4 element quad beam antenna up and
testing. I have this fast in and out skip stations on all of my antennas.

Jay in the Mojave


It may be that you are getting short propagation events from the
ionized tails of meteors reflecting distant signals .
There have been long-haul comm systems built to utilize this effect,
they sound for a path and send a data burst when there is an open
path.
phil


Hello Phil:

No I don't think its meteors, but some kind of skip happening maybe the
attmosphere wants to work but for a short while. This happens a few
times an hour, then the skip stations come in solid for say 20 mins or so.

I believe I was using some sort of meteor a few years back, as I was
talking to guy about 150 miles away, the signal level came up then
quickly died, but we where able to exchange locations and call signs on
11 meters.

Jay in the Mojave