In , 'Doc wrote:



Scott Unit 69 wrote:

----------------
R is the DC RESISTANCE of the circuit, as can be measured by an ohmmeter.
E=I*R I=E/R R=E/I
These same basic formulas hold true in AC circuits, but are modified.

---------------------

The 'R' is not DC resistance, it can not be neasured with an
ohm meter. It is 'radiation resistance', an imaginary quantity.
One ohm of 'radiation resistance' dissipates the same power as
a one ohm resistor would. There isn't any way of measuring
radiation resistance directly, it has to be found by measuring
indirectly, and that's what the antenna analyzers do. They
measure the current and voltage to the antenna and then compute
the 'R' (radiation resistance). It's one of those things that
acts just like something, but really isn't...
'Doc

Scott was just reviewing the basics. Where he referred to "R" was Ohm's law, and
was absolutely correct. However, he did make one mistake:

Xc=1/(2PI*F*C) Xl=(2PI*F*L)

2PI is a constant in electronics algebra. 6.283
F is frequency in MHz, 27.185 not 27185 KHz
C or L in full decimal amount, 50ufd=.00005, 1mH=.001

For that formula, "F" is the frequency in Hz; i.e, 27185000 Hz.



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have a problem with. You guys are wrong and you both know it and
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In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

From: (William*Baumann)
Well I al ready have a Wison 5000, but I had heard that the free air
coils were some of the best loaded antennas..
_
As far as power handling capacity,,,they are. Finding a linear in and
around Jersey....

Hmmm.... where did he say he is in Jersey, Twist?


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have a problem with. You guys are wrong and you both know it and
are both too small to admit it."
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From: (William=A0Baumann)
Well I am just running 10 watts out the radio right now, and I would
like to run a 250W linnear in the future. I know that the W5000 can
handle that easily. I had just heard that the open air coil antennas
helped improve TX/RX range greatly, so I figured I would look into it.
_
I'm a Wilson (old style) fan myself..although I do have a fiberglass
whip I occasionally use from back in the day. I heard the company (is it
Barjan?sp?)) that bought Wilson haven't changed much in design...(shug).
I know the baddest mobiles around here have open coils and they all
throw down with open coils at the key line,,,,mass fraud has been
perpetuated against the public-at-large before (look at "JB Weld"), but
I'm inclined to side with the big guns,,,hearing is believing. A very
good friend has made a name for himself with his ricochet-skip dish and
he uses an open air super-penetrator-type.... he definitely has a mobile
to reckon with.

In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (William*Baumann)
Well I al ready have a Wison 5000, but I had heard that the free air
coils were some of the best loaded antennas..
_
As far as power handling capacity,,,they are. Finding a linear in and
around Jersey....

Hmmm.... where did he say he is in Jersey,

Twist?


He didn't. Try to stay relevant.

If he didn't say he was in Jersey, then why did YOU say Jersey, and how is
Jersey relevant?


=============

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have a problem with. You guys are wrong and you both know it and
are both too small to admit it."
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From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (William=A0Baumann) Well I already have a
Wison 5000, but I had heard that the free air coils were some of the
best loaded antennas..
_
As far as power handling capacity,,,they are. Finding a linear in and
around Jersey....

Hmmm.... where did he say he is in Jersey,

Twist?

He didn't. Try to stay relevant.
_
If he didn't say he was in Jersey,

IF wishes were horses beggars would ride.


then why did

YOU say Jersey,


Because it's relevant.

and how is Jersey relevant?

You're out of the loop, Frankie-lite.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
"...but I admitted I was wrong, Like a man! Something you and QRM have a
problem with. You guys are wrong and you both know it and are both too
small to admit it."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A 0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A 0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A 0=A0----
Twistedhed ----

"I never said I wouldn't troll anymore."..Frank Gilliland
)"

"I do not get upset about any CB law being broken."...Frank Gilliland
)

"RF pirates affect me directly in my work."...Frank Gilliland
)

"I have admitted to lying in this
newsgroup, and on more than one occasion."......Frank Gilliland

In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (William*Baumann) Well I already have a
Wison 5000, but I had heard that the free air coils were some of the
best loaded antennas..
_
As far as power handling capacity,,,they are. Finding a linear in and
around Jersey....

Hmmm.... where did he say he is in Jersey,

Twist?

He didn't. Try to stay relevant.
_
If he didn't say he was in Jersey,

IF wishes were horses beggars would ride.


then why did

YOU say Jersey,


Because it's relevant.

and how is Jersey relevant?

You're out of the loop, Frankie-lite.

Yes, I learned it's a good thing to stand back whenever you start forming loops
by chasing your own tail (tracer-routing people's IP numbers), because it
usually means that you are about to do something extraordinarily stupid. So did
you trace it far enough to see that the block holding his IP is subbed out from
AT&T to MCC in Middletown, NY? You must be REALLY paranoid to trace the headers
of people that agree with you.



=============

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have a problem with. You guys are wrong and you both know it and
are both too small to admit it."
---- Twistedhed ----

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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

From: (Frank Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (Frank Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (William Baumann) Well I already have a
Wison 5000, but I had heard that the free air coils were some of the
best loaded antennas..
_
As far as power handling capacity,,,they are. Finding a linear in and
around Jersey....

Hmmm.... where did he say he is in Jersey,

Twist?

He didn't. Try to stay relevant.
_
If he didn't say he was in Jersey,

IF wishes were horses beggars would ride.


then why did

YOU say Jersey,


Because it's relevant.

and how is Jersey relevant?

You're out of the loop, Frankie-lite.

Yes, I learned it's a good thing to stand back whenever you start forming
loops
by chasing your own tail (tracer-routing people's IP numbers), because it
usually means that you are about to do something extraordinarily stupid.
So did
you trace it far enough to see that the block holding his IP is subbed out
from
AT&T to MCC in Middletown, NY? You must be REALLY paranoid to trace the
headers
of people that agree with you.


Wouldn't do anyone any good, I use an anonymous proxy.



=============

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have a problem with. You guys are wrong and you both know it and
are both too small to admit it."
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"William Baumann" wrote in message
news:WlqPa.32251$H17.10132@sccrnsc02...

Wouldn't do anyone any good, I use an anonymous proxy.


Sure ya do.

VisualRoute (R) 7.2a report on Jul 11, 2003 12:26:58 AM
Report for 12.218.154.140 [12-218-154-140.client.mchsi.com]
Analysis: '12.218.154.140' [12-218-154-140.client.mchsi.com] was found in 13
hops (TTL=138).
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------- | Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Tzone | ms |
Graph | Network
| --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
| 0 | | 161.58.180.113 | win10115.iad.dn.net | Dulles, VA, USA | -05:00 | |
| Verio, Inc. VRIO-161-058 |
| 1 | | 161.58.176.129 | - | ... | | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. VRIO-161-058 | | 2
| | 161.58.156.140 | - | ... |
| 1 | x- | Verio, Inc. VRIO-161-058 | | 3 | | 129.250.28.206 |
xe-1-2-0-3.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net | Ashburn, VA, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x
| Verio, Inc. VRIO-129-250
| | 4 | | 129.250.2.83 | p16-7-0-0.r02.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net | Ashburn,
VA, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Verio, Inc. VRIO-129-250 | | 5 | | 192.205.32.209
| verio-gw.wswdc.ip.att.net | Washington, DC, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | AT&T
Bell Laboratories NETBLK-ATT | | 6 | | 12.123.9.50 |
tbr1-p013202.wswdc.ip.att.net | Washington, DC, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | AT&T
WorldNet Services ATT | | 7 | | 12.122.10.66 | tbr1-p013701.sl9mo.ip.att.net
| St. Louis, MO, USA | -06:00 | 16 | x- | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT | | 8 |
| 12.122.10.42 | tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net | San Francisco, CA, USA | -08:00
| 62 | x | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT | | 9 | | 12.122.11.66 |
gbr1-p10.sffca.ip.att.net | San Francisco, CA, USA | -08:00 | 62 | x | AT&T
WorldNet Services ATT | | 10 | | 12.123.195.69 | ar1-p3110.sfcca.ip.att.net
| San Francisco, CA, USA | -08:00 | 65 | x---- | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
| | 11 | | 12.215.0.97 | 12-215-0-97.client.mchsi.com | - | | 62 | x | AT&T
WorldNet Services ATT | | 12 | | 12.215.8.194 |
12-215-8-194.client.mchsi.com | - | | 62 | x- | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
| | 13 | | 12.218.154.140 | 12-218-154-140.client.mchsi.com San
Francisco, CA, USA AT&T WorldNet Services ATT

From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote: From:
(Frank=A0Gilliland) In
,
(Twistedhed) wrote: From:
(William=A0Baumann) Well I already have a Wison 5000, but I had heard
that the free air coils were some of the best loaded antennas..
_
As far as power handling capacity,,,they are. Finding a linear in and
around Jersey....

Hmmm.... where did he say he is in Jersey,

Twist?

He didn't. Try to stay relevant.
_
If he didn't say he was in Jersey,

IF wishes were horses beggars would ride.

then why did

YOU say Jersey,

Because it's relevant.

and how is Jersey relevant?

You're out of the loop, Frankie-lite.

Yes, I learned it's a good thing to stand back


You never stood back, Frankie-lite,,you have always demonstrated a
fondness for rushing in where angels fear to tread and doing a
half-gainer into a swan dive head first into a vat of fecal matter.
Attempts to pull you out have resulted in you pulling others down to
your level.

whenever you start forming loops by chasing

your own tail (tracer-routing people's IP

numbers), because it usually means that you

are about to do something extraordinarily

stupid.



LOL..geee,that wasn't efective,,,curse me, call me a name or
something,,you're slipping.

So did you trace it far enough to see that the

block holding his IP is subbed out from AT&T

to MCC in Middletown, NY? You must be

REALLY paranoid to trace the headers of

people that agree with you.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D




LOL,,I didn't trace anything. You're out of the loop. Jersey is THE
place to get linears these days. It needs repeated: Never have I met
anyone so determined to remain ignorant, such as yourself. Do try to not
allow your personal feelings to cloud your posts, Frankie-lite,,,

"I never said I wouldn't troll anymore."..Frank Gilliland
)"

"I do not get upset about any CB law being broken."...Frank Gilliland
)

"RF pirates affect me directly in my work."...Frank Gilliland
)

"I have admitted to lying in this
newsgroup, and on more than one occasion."......Frank Gilliland

In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote: From:
(Frank*Gilliland) In
,
(Twistedhed) wrote: From:
(William*Baumann) Well I already have a Wison 5000, but I had heard
that the free air coils were some of the best loaded antennas..
_
As far as power handling capacity,,,they are. Finding a linear in and
around Jersey....

Hmmm.... where did he say he is in Jersey,

Twist?

He didn't. Try to stay relevant.
_
If he didn't say he was in Jersey,

IF wishes were horses beggars would ride.

then why did

YOU say Jersey,

Because it's relevant.

and how is Jersey relevant?

You're out of the loop, Frankie-lite.

Yes, I learned it's a good thing to stand back


You never stood back, Frankie-lite,,you have always demonstrated a
fondness for rushing in where angels fear to tread and doing a
half-gainer into a swan dive head first into a vat of fecal matter.

Probably because it used to be a swimming pool until you came along and filled
it with "fecal matter".

Attempts to pull you out have resulted in you pulling others down to
your level.

whenever you start forming loops by chasing

your own tail (tracer-routing people's IP

numbers), because it usually means that you

are about to do something extraordinarily

stupid.



LOL..geee,that wasn't efective,,,curse me, call me a name or
something,,you're slipping.

That's because you have filled the vat so far it's overflowing.

So did you trace it far enough to see that the

block holding his IP is subbed out from AT&T

to MCC in Middletown, NY? You must be

REALLY paranoid to trace the headers of

people that agree with you.
=============




LOL,,I didn't trace anything. You're out of the loop. Jersey is THE
place to get linears these days.

Oh really? I thought the place to get linears and other illegal CB equipment was
through yahoo auctions. So where do you get your information that Jersey is the
place for amps?

It needs repeated: Never have I met
anyone so determined to remain ignorant, such as yourself. Do try to not
allow your personal feelings to cloud your posts, Frankie-lite,,,

Don't worry, I won't. Now who, other than yourself, is saying that "Jersey is
THE place to get linears these days"?



=============

"...but I admitted I was wrong, Like a man! Something you and QRM
have a problem with. You guys are wrong and you both know it and
are both too small to admit it."
---- Twistedhed ----

=============


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