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December 28th 03, 07:25 PM
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"Richard Cranium" wrote in message om... (twistedhed) wrote in message om... You are being targeted for busts in 2004. You keykweenz are going to get nailed. Read below and get ready to feel the heat. We can't wait to post the FCC notices on the NG, it will be great fun. Make certain to laugh when one of your ham friends goes down, too. We might believe that you're unbiased if you do so. (that'll be the day!) FCC rule 2.815(b): After APR 27, 1978, no person shall manufacture, sell or lease, offer for sale or lease (including advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any external radio frequency amplifier or amplifier kit capable of operation on any frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz. Signed, Your Losers and Faggots, the AKC Equipment in and of itself and mere possession of such equipment is not illegal. Only certain uses of some equipment can be considered illegal. No matter what you would like to believe. I could have an entire house full of amplifiers and the FCC couldn't touch them without presenting PROOF of illegal use. Read the CB rules, Yes, (I'm not part of the antis-) you can have lots of illegal amps and not get cited. And you could "collect" them on a shelf to keep forever. If you have not committed some *other* infraction, then it is a moot point. You have to do something to get FCC's attention to start with. Then the rules (Rule 10 and 11) apply and *could* cause you a 'rathuh sticky wicket, eh wot" as the old Brit aristrocrats used to say. And the rule (and it has been quoted many times) states as follows: RULE 10 - Power Output {A} Your CB station transmitter power output must not exceed the following values under any conditions: AM [Amplitude Modulation] - 4 watts carrier power [CP] SSB [Single Side-Band] - 12 watts peak envelope power [PEP] {B} If you need more information about the power rule, see Part 95/ Subpart E. {C} Use of a transmitter which has carrier [CP] or peak envelope power [PEP]in excess of that authorized voids your authority to operate the station. RULE 11 - Linear Amplifiers {A} You may not attach the following items (power amplifiers) to your type-accepted CB transmitter in any way: [1] External radio frequency [RF] power amplifiers, also called linear amplifiers, or linears; or [2] Any other devices which, when used with a radio transmitter as a signal source, are capable of amplifying the signal. {B} There are no exceptions to this rule and use of a power amplifier voids your authority to operate the station. {C} The FCC will presume you have used a linear or other external [RF] power amplifier if- [1] It is in your possession or on your premises; and [2] There is OTHER EVIDENCE that you have operated your CB station with more power than allowed by CB Rule 10. {D} Paragraph C above in this section does not apply if you hold a license in another radio service (HAM, etc.) which allows you to operate an external RF power amplifier. So, you can see that it is Rule ll, sec 1 that could bring about that "sticky wicket". By getting atten- tion called to *some* other activities, those ampli- fiers are now in FCC's headlights, so to speak, and are in danger of being seized, or causing you a fine. But, again, you are still right so long as you don't call attention to those "illegal" radios/amps. They could sit there forever----just as you said. J dum@$$. If you know how to read, that is. |
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#13
December 28th 03, 11:09 PM
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Steveo wrote in message ...
(twistedhed) wrote: "Randy" wrote in message ... "twistedhed" wrote in message m... You are being targeted for busts in 2004. You keykweenz are going to get nailed. Read below and get ready to feel the heat. We can't wait to post the FCC notices on the NG, it will be great fun. Kinda like having it known that you are a repeater jammer? No, since that isn't true. What it IS though is kinda like having it known that you are a crackhead and a dick sucker. You're a real jackass, faggot. We know you wish it was true, because you worship our every word and want to give us all head, but we are heterosexual. Cranus will let you blow him though. he is faggot to the core. |
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#14
December 28th 03, 11:43 PM
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"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message ...
"Richard Cranium" wrote in message om... (twistedhed) wrote in message om... You are being targeted for busts in 2004. You keykweenz are going to get nailed. Read below and get ready to feel the heat. We can't wait to post the FCC notices on the NG, it will be great fun. Make certain to laugh when one of your ham friends goes down, too. We might believe that you're unbiased if you do so. (that'll be the day!) FCC rule 2.815(b): After APR 27, 1978, no person shall manufacture, sell or lease, offer for sale or lease (including advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any external radio frequency amplifier or amplifier kit capable of operation on any frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz. Signed, Your Losers and Faggots, the AKC Equipment in and of itself and mere possession of such equipment is not illegal. Only certain uses of some equipment can be considered illegal. No matter what you would like to believe. I could have an entire house full of amplifiers and the FCC couldn't touch them without presenting PROOF of illegal use. Read the CB rules, Yes, (I'm not part of the antis-) you can have lots of illegal amps and not get cited. And you could "collect" them on a shelf to keep forever. If you have not committed some *other* infraction, then it is a moot point. You have to do something to get FCC's attention to start with. Then the rules (Rule 10 and 11) apply and *could* cause you a 'rathuh sticky wicket, eh wot" as the old Brit aristrocrats used to say. And the rule (and it has been quoted many times) states as follows: RULE 10 - Power Output {A} Your CB station transmitter power output must not exceed the following values under any conditions: AM [Amplitude Modulation] - 4 watts carrier power [CP] SSB [Single Side-Band] - 12 watts peak envelope power [PEP] {B} If you need more information about the power rule, see Part 95/ Subpart E. {C} Use of a transmitter which has carrier [CP] or peak envelope power [PEP]in excess of that authorized voids your authority to operate the station. RULE 11 - Linear Amplifiers {A} You may not attach the following items (power amplifiers) to your type-accepted CB transmitter in any way: [1] External radio frequency [RF] power amplifiers, also called linear amplifiers, or linears; or [2] Any other devices which, when used with a radio transmitter as a signal source, are capable of amplifying the signal. {B} There are no exceptions to this rule and use of a power amplifier voids your authority to operate the station. {C} The FCC will presume you have used a linear or other external [RF] power amplifier if- [1] It is in your possession or on your premises; and Make that AND (all caps), to be correct as per FCC Rule 95.411(C) That means there must be additional legal evidence, not simply possession. Something that Georgie-girl and DouGay deliberately will not understand. [2] There is OTHER EVIDENCE that you have operated your CB station with more power than allowed by CB Rule 10. {D} Paragraph C above in this section does not apply if you hold a license in another radio service (HAM, etc.) which allows you to operate an external RF power amplifier. So, you can see that it is Rule ll, sec 1 that could bring about that "sticky wicket". Not correct. BOTH sections have to be satisfied before any legal infraction has been committed, not just one part. In fact, it's sec 2 that might be a "sticky wicket". Sec 1 has no teeth by itself. By getting atten- tion called to *some* other activities, those ampli- fiers are now in FCC's headlights, so to speak, and are in danger of being seized, or causing you a fine. But, again, you are still right so long as you don't call attention to those "illegal" radios/amps. They could sit there forever----just as you said. J Yet you encouraged people to use amateur radios for their CB operations just a while back, Jerry. Those radios put out way too much power (100 watts PEP vs 12 watts PEP legal limit) and would cause even more interference if people took your advice! |
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#15
December 28th 03, 11:55 PM
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On 28 Dec 2003 14:46:01 -0800, (twistedhed)
wrote: (Richard Cranium) wrote in message . com... (twistedhed) wrote in message om... You are being targeted for busts in 2004. You keykweenz are going to get nailed. Read below and get ready to feel the heat. We can't wait to post the FCC notices on the NG, it will be great fun. Make certain to laugh when one of your ham friends goes down, too. We might believe that you're unbiased if you do so. (that'll be the day!) FCC rule 2.815(b): After APR 27, 1978, no person shall manufacture, sell or lease, offer for sale or lease (including advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any external radio frequency amplifier or amplifier kit capable of operation on any frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz. Signed, Your Losers and Faggots, the AKC Equipment in and of itself and mere possession of such equipment is not illegal. Only certain uses of some equipment can be considered illegal. No matter what you would like to believe. I could have an entire house full of amplifiers and the FCC couldn't touch them without presenting PROOF of illegal use. Read the CB rules, dum@$$. If you know how to read, that is. Wrong, fudgepacker. Ask the FCC. In their view, posession implies use. Ask them, then shut the **** up and go back to the truckstop. No, you ask the FCC, possession alone does NOT presume use. There has to be OTHER EVIDENCE that you had operated wirh more power. Get your facts straight, then shut the **** up, because you don't know what your talking about. |
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#16
December 29th 03, 02:04 AM
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"Richard Cranium" wrote in message om... "Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message ... "Richard Cranium" wrote in message om... (twistedhed) wrote in message om... You are being targeted for busts in 2004. You keykweenz are going to get nailed. Read below and get ready to feel the heat. We can't wait to post the FCC notices on the NG, it will be great fun. Make certain to laugh when one of your ham friends goes down, too. We might believe that you're unbiased if you do so. (that'll be the day!) FCC rule 2.815(b): After APR 27, 1978, no person shall manufacture, sell or lease, offer for sale or lease (including advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any external radio frequency amplifier or amplifier kit capable of operation on any frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz. Signed, Your Losers and Faggots, the AKC Equipment in and of itself and mere possession of such equipment is not illegal. Only certain uses of some equipment can be considered illegal. No matter what you would like to believe. I could have an entire house full of amplifiers and the FCC couldn't touch them without presenting PROOF of illegal use. Read the CB rules, Yes, (I'm not part of the antis-) you can have lots of illegal amps and not get cited. And you could "collect" them on a shelf to keep forever. If you have not committed some *other* infraction, then it is a moot point. You have to do something to get FCC's attention to start with. Then the rules (Rule 10 and 11) apply and *could* cause you a 'rathuh sticky wicket, eh wot" as the old Brit aristrocrats used to say. And the rule (and it has been quoted many times) states as follows: RULE 10 - Power Output {A} Your CB station transmitter power output must not exceed the following values under any conditions: AM [Amplitude Modulation] - 4 watts carrier power [CP] SSB [Single Side-Band] - 12 watts peak envelope power [PEP] {B} If you need more information about the power rule, see Part 95/ Subpart E. {C} Use of a transmitter which has carrier [CP] or peak envelope power [PEP]in excess of that authorized voids your authority to operate the station. RULE 11 - Linear Amplifiers {A} You may not attach the following items (power amplifiers) to your type-accepted CB transmitter in any way: [1] External radio frequency [RF] power amplifiers, also called linear amplifiers, or linears; or [2] Any other devices which, when used with a radio transmitter as a signal source, are capable of amplifying the signal. {B} There are no exceptions to this rule and use of a power amplifier voids your authority to operate the station. {C} The FCC will presume you have used a linear or other external [RF] power amplifier if- [1] It is in your possession or on your premises; and Make that AND (all caps), to be correct as per FCC Rule 95.411(C) That means there must be additional legal evidence, not simply possession. Something that Georgie-girl and DouGay deliberately will not understand. [2] There is OTHER EVIDENCE that you have operated your CB station with more power than allowed by CB Rule 10. {D} Paragraph C above in this section does not apply if you hold a license in another radio service (HAM, etc.) which allows you to operate an external RF power amplifier. So, you can see that it is Rule ll, sec 1 that could bring about that "sticky wicket". Not correct. BOTH sections have to be satisfied before any legal infraction has been committed, not just one part. In fact, it's sec 2 that might be a "sticky wicket". Sec 1 has no teeth by itself. By getting atten- tion called to *some* other activities, those ampli- fiers are now in FCC's headlights, so to speak, and are in danger of being seized, or causing you a fine. But, again, you are still right so long as you don't call attention to those "illegal" radios/amps. They could sit there forever----just as you said. J Yet you encouraged people to use amateur radios for their CB operations just a while back, Jerry. Those radios put out way too much power (100 watts PEP vs 12 watts PEP legal limit) and would cause even more interference if people took your advice! Would you point out where/when/how I encouraged the use of Amateur equipment on CB? I simply don't recall having done such--particularly since I never talk on CB except very rare occasions. If you have the archival evidence, I would LOVE to see it. I am not here to argue with you, just to set it straight and will readily admit it *IF* I said such a thing. Please provide the exact quote where I said that. The way I read the reg, again not to argue with you, there is nothing illegal about having questionable (?) equipment in one's possession. However, it states that if such equipment is found, it will be assumed to have been used in conjunction with your CB equipment. After all, FCC doesn't go around looking for "illegal" equipment; as long as it is not used (such as an amp), the question is moot. How are they to know *if* you have such equipment? It is not illegal until you USE it. Am I wrongly reading the following section? [1] It is in your possession or on your premises; That, of course, is predicated on "OTHER" evidence which, I am thinking, would be the use of a CB set with an amplifier. If they have this "evidence". it would be in the form of DF, spectral analysis, or other monitoring, in which case, is the "other evidence" that, IMHO, is meant by the additional paragraphs. Someone else have a better take on this? Jerry |
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#17
December 29th 03, 02:17 AM
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"Lancer" wrote in message ... On 28 Dec 2003 14:46:01 -0800, (twistedhed) wrote: (Richard Cranium) wrote in message . com... (twistedhed) wrote in message om... You are being targeted for busts in 2004. You keykweenz are going to get nailed. Read below and get ready to feel the heat. We can't wait to post the FCC notices on the NG, it will be great fun. Make certain to laugh when one of your ham friends goes down, too. We might believe that you're unbiased if you do so. (that'll be the day!) FCC rule 2.815(b): After APR 27, 1978, no person shall manufacture, sell or lease, offer for sale or lease (including advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any external radio frequency amplifier or amplifier kit capable of operation on any frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz. Signed, Your Losers and Faggots, the AKC Equipment in and of itself and mere possession of such equipment is not illegal. Only certain uses of some equipment can be considered illegal. No matter what you would like to believe. I could have an entire house full of amplifiers and the FCC couldn't touch them without presenting PROOF of illegal use. Read the CB rules, dum@$$. If you know how to read, that is. Wrong, fudgepacker. Ask the FCC. In their view, posession implies use. Ask them, then shut the snipback to the truckstop. No, you ask the FCC, possession alone does NOT presume use. There has to be OTHER EVIDENCE that you had operated wirh more power. Get your facts straight, then shut the ------------ Right. Which seems to me to mean that when they have measured the station with outside monitoring (spectral analysis, etc) they already gotcha so to speak. They can certainly measure your power from a distance, so that when they knock on your door and find an amp, they can "assume" that you are operating with excessive power. Now if an agent came to your home without any evidence (maybe as an acquantance or friend of a friend) and saw a CB amp sitting on a shelf, then he couldn't cite you for it because there is no "other" evidence that it is being used illegally. That other evidence is usually gathered beforehand. Such an agent *might* (I doubt it) go back home and begin to monitor you--who knows? Reasonable debate, not flames and filthy insults, is welcomed. Jerry |
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#18
December 29th 03, 03:10 AM
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Jerry Oxendine wrote: "Lancer" wrote in message ... On 28 Dec 2003 14:46:01 -0800, (twistedhed) wrote: (Richard Cranium) wrote in message . com... (twistedhed) wrote in message om... You are being targeted for busts in 2004. You keykweenz are going to get nailed. Read below and get ready to feel the heat. We can't wait to post the FCC notices on the NG, it will be great fun. Make certain to laugh when one of your ham friends goes down, too. We might believe that you're unbiased if you do so. (that'll be the day!) FCC rule 2.815(b): After APR 27, 1978, no person shall manufacture, sell or lease, offer for sale or lease (including advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any external radio frequency amplifier or amplifier kit capable of operation on any frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz. Signed, Your Losers and Faggots, the AKC Equipment in and of itself and mere possession of such equipment is not illegal. Only certain uses of some equipment can be considered illegal. No matter what you would like to believe. I could have an entire house full of amplifiers and the FCC couldn't touch them without presenting PROOF of illegal use. Read the CB rules, dum@$$. If you know how to read, that is. Wrong, fudgepacker. Ask the FCC. In their view, posession implies use. Ask them, then shut the snipback to the truckstop. No, you ask the FCC, possession alone does NOT presume use. There has to be OTHER EVIDENCE that you had operated wirh more power. Get your facts straight, then shut the ------------ Right. Which seems to me to mean that when they have measured the station with outside monitoring (spectral analysis, etc) they already gotcha so to speak. They can certainly measure your power from a distance, so that when they knock on your door and find an amp, they can "assume" that you are operating with excessive power. Now if an agent came to your home without any evidence (maybe as an acquantance or friend of a friend) and saw a CB amp sitting on a shelf, then he couldn't cite you for it because there is no "other" evidence that it is being used illegally. That other evidence is usually gathered beforehand. Such an agent *might* (I doubt it) go back home and begin to monitor you--who knows? Reasonable debate, not flames and filthy insults, is welcomed. Jerry thats a lot of ifs jerry. doesn't it sound bizarre when one talks about 'agents' monitoring? 1984 anyone??? seperately, this whole talk of trying to dictate 11 meter usage is fine but unenforceable. listen to the nickel. does anyone really think u.s. laws will make a difference? in the current climate where most of the planet says stuff it to the u.s. 11 meters is the least of anyones worries... |
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#19
December 29th 03, 02:33 PM
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(twistedhed) wrote in message . com...
Steveo wrote in message ... (twistedhed) wrote: "Randy" wrote in message ... "twistedhed" wrote in message m... You are being targeted for busts in 2004. You keykweenz are going to get nailed. Read below and get ready to feel the heat. We can't wait to post the FCC notices on the NG, it will be great fun. Kinda like having it known that you are a repeater jammer? No, since that isn't true. What it IS though is kinda like having it known that you are a crackhead and a dick sucker. You're a real jackass, faggot. We know you wish it was true, because you worship our every word and want to give us all head, but we are heterosexual. Cranus will let you blow him though. he is faggot to the core. Only Georgie-girl knows anything about that sort of stuff. It's obvious to all who the faggot is, and he is Georgie-girl Busch WA3MOJ. |
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#20
December 29th 03, 02:53 PM
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:17:39 -0500, "Jerry Oxendine"
wrote: "Lancer" wrote in message .. . On 28 Dec 2003 14:46:01 -0800, (twistedhed) wrote: Right. Which seems to me to mean that when they have measured the station with outside monitoring (spectral analysis, etc) they already gotcha so to speak. They can certainly measure your power from a distance, so that when they knock on your door and find an amp, they can "assume" that you are operating with excessive power. Now if an agent came to your home without any evidence (maybe as an acquantance or friend of a friend) and saw a CB amp sitting on a shelf, then he couldn't cite you for it because there is no "other" evidence that it is being used illegally. That other evidence is usually gathered beforehand. Such an agent *might* (I doubt it) go back home and begin to monitor you--who knows? Reasonable debate, not flames and filthy insults, is welcomed. Jerry Sorry; My response wasn't directed at you. |
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