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"I Am Not George" wrote in message
m...
(Twistedhed) wrote in message
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From: (I Am Not George)
(Twistedhed) wrote:
N3CVJ said if you're gonna break the law, (dxing is technically against
the law on cb) 'tis better to do it from a portable station than from
your home.

Where did he say that you lying sack of dog

poop?


Let's see....N3CVJ wrote:
(snip)

OMG you obsessed bag of parakeet turd causing trouble for Dave Hall
again. Is it because you two share the same first name.

Shut up, George.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:33:27 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:



Ok......

First, sink a ground rod at the point where the coax will enter the house. If
you have a basement next to the ground rod, sink a couple more rods so they are
separated by ten feet or more and in the path of the coax. Some people like to
prep the ground by soaking with sal****er, but in my experience that makes the
rod corrode before its time, then the salt leeches away into the ground water,
leaving a very poor ground in a very short time. I use galvanized pipe as
opposed to copper rods because they have a larger diameter (more rod-to-ground
contact = lower resistance), and they last longer. You can also thread the pipe
for a super-neat installation of a waterproof box......

Next is the coax installation. Run the coax down the mast or side of the house
to the ground rod. Don't run the coax near any wiring inside the house. You can
detect house wiring with a cheap metal detector. Avoid sharp turns as much as
possible. At the ground rod it helps to have a waterproof box because you need
to cut the coax, ground the shield, and shunt the center conductor to ground
with a choke (as per the diagram I made yesterday).

About the choke: This serves two purposes. First, it shunts static electricity
from the antenna to ground. Second, it provides a path for lightning if it
should strike. Since the lightning will arc across every loop in the choke, the
inductance value isn't critical just as long as it is high enough to block your
RF (about 1 mH or larger for HF and above), and the wire size is large enough to
handle some current (#14 or larger should be fine). One of those heavy-duty hash
chokes for ignition noise is ok, or you can wind your own -- use a large iron
bolt for a core and wind about 50 turns of #10 or #12 house wire. If you aren't
running much power, you can slit the insulation along the length of the coil so
it will arc at a lower voltage.

Then run the coax up into the house along side the grounding strap. Tie them
together with cable-ties if you want. Again, it's important that you run these
so they don't come close to any house wiring, and they should enter at a
location that is clear of easily combustible stuff. Terminate the ground strap
with a really big alligator clip, jumper cable clamp, or whatever you have that
makes a really good connection and can be easily disconnected. The ground clamp
from an arc welder is almost ideal.

Above the point where the coax and grounding strap enter the house, make a hook
or post where you can hang both when not being used. Remember that if lightning
hits, it's very possible that these will jump straight out from the wall and
dance around like a water hose, so make sure they are held securely in place.

Inside the house, make yourself a grounding bus bar of copper or aluminum. Put
this on the back of your bench and use it to ground all your equipment. To this
you clamp on your grounding strap. When not using your bench, unhook the
grounding strap along with the coax and stow it away. Also, to protect the coax,
use an appropriate socket and short it out before you stow it.

When should you unhook your antenna? There is a thing called the 30-30 rule: If
you hear thunder less than 30 seconds after you see the lightning, unplug. Don't
plug in again until 30 minutes after the last thunder. That's pretty safe. You
can even improve on that by building a lightning detector, many of which will
indicate lightning even before you can hear the thunder.


How's that?

Oh, I almost forgot..... coax length!!!!! The low impedance of the ground will
be reflected at the radio when the length of the coax & ground strap, from the
ground rod to the radio, are 1/2 wavelength. This means 1/2 wavelength -without-
consideration of velocity factor because we want a low impedance -ground-. And
this means -- you guessed it -- 18 feet of coax!




My previous dwelling besides having a similar setup to what Frank
described I also had my antenna and tower grounded. I put my tower out
in the old garden bed (I moved my garden every few years so as to give
nutrients a chance to rebuild), and before I put fill dirt and grass
seed in I laid out a grid of #12 copper wire in a 18' radius from the
tower legs, this as well as the tower and antenna were tied into a
ground rod at the base of the tower. I had a weatherproof box outside
where I could disconnect coax so it couldn't feed into house during
t-storm.

I'll be setting similar situation up here at the new place, this time
for my HF Vertical, my UHF/VHF antennas, and my multi-band Inverted V.

73 de Keith
--
KC8TCQ
ARRL Member - ARES
SKYWARN

"I Am Not God" wrote:
"I Am Not George" wrote in message
om...
(Twistedhed) wrote in message
...
From: (I Am Not George)
(Twistedhed) wrote:
N3CVJ said if you're gonna break the law, (dxing is technically
against
the law on cb) 'tis better to do it from a portable station than
from
your home.

Where did he say that you lying sack of dog

poop?


Let's see....N3CVJ wrote:
(snip)

OMG you obsessed bag of parakeet turd causing trouble for Dave Hall
again. Is it because you two share the same first name.

Shut up, George.

Randy you don't even know who the **** your talking to so STFU things
were fine here Steveo took a rest and so did landfag and what do you
know we had some cb topics for a change. Then Twisted****forbrains
decided to troll Dave Hall and cause trouble. Now you run in to go to
bat for Twisty? Go back to the pipe asspuppet

"Keith Hosman" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:33:27 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:



Ok......

First, sink a ground rod at the point where the coax will enter the
house. If
you have a basement next to the ground rod, sink a couple more rods so
they are
separated by ten feet or more and in the path of the coax. Some people
like to
prep the ground by soaking with sal****er, but in my experience that
makes the
rod corrode before its time, then the salt leeches away into the ground
water,
leaving a very poor ground in a very short time. I use galvanized pipe as
opposed to copper rods because they have a larger diameter (more
rod-to-ground
contact = lower resistance), and they last longer. You can also thread
the pipe
for a super-neat installation of a waterproof box......

Next is the coax installation. Run the coax down the mast or side of the
house
to the ground rod. Don't run the coax near any wiring inside the house.
You can
detect house wiring with a cheap metal detector. Avoid sharp turns as
much as
possible. At the ground rod it helps to have a waterproof box because you
need
to cut the coax, ground the shield, and shunt the center conductor to
ground
with a choke (as per the diagram I made yesterday).

About the choke: This serves two purposes. First, it shunts static
electricity
from the antenna to ground. Second, it provides a path for lightning if
it
should strike. Since the lightning will arc across every loop in the
choke, the
inductance value isn't critical just as long as it is high enough to
block your
RF (about 1 mH or larger for HF and above), and the wire size is large
enough to
handle some current (#14 or larger should be fine). One of those
heavy-duty hash
chokes for ignition noise is ok, or you can wind your own -- use a large
iron
bolt for a core and wind about 50 turns of #10 or #12 house wire. If you
aren't
running much power, you can slit the insulation along the length of the
coil so
it will arc at a lower voltage.

Then run the coax up into the house along side the grounding strap. Tie
them
together with cable-ties if you want. Again, it's important that you run
these
so they don't come close to any house wiring, and they should enter at a
location that is clear of easily combustible stuff. Terminate the ground
strap
with a really big alligator clip, jumper cable clamp, or whatever you
have that
makes a really good connection and can be easily disconnected. The ground
clamp
from an arc welder is almost ideal.

Above the point where the coax and grounding strap enter the house, make
a hook
or post where you can hang both when not being used. Remember that if
lightning
hits, it's very possible that these will jump straight out from the wall
and
dance around like a water hose, so make sure they are held securely in
place.

Inside the house, make yourself a grounding bus bar of copper or
aluminum. Put
this on the back of your bench and use it to ground all your equipment.
To this
you clamp on your grounding strap. When not using your bench, unhook the
grounding strap along with the coax and stow it away. Also, to protect
the coax,
use an appropriate socket and short it out before you stow it.

When should you unhook your antenna? There is a thing called the 30-30
rule: If
you hear thunder less than 30 seconds after you see the lightning,
unplug. Don't
plug in again until 30 minutes after the last thunder. That's pretty
safe. You
can even improve on that by building a lightning detector, many of which
will
indicate lightning even before you can hear the thunder.


How's that?

Oh, I almost forgot..... coax length!!!!! The low impedance of the ground
will
be reflected at the radio when the length of the coax & ground strap,
from the
ground rod to the radio, are 1/2 wavelength. This means 1/2
wavelength -without-
consideration of velocity factor because we want a low
impedance -ground-. And
this means -- you guessed it -- 18 feet of coax!




My previous dwelling besides having a similar setup to what Frank
described I also had my antenna and tower grounded. I put my tower out
in the old garden bed (I moved my garden every few years so as to give
nutrients a chance to rebuild), and before I put fill dirt and grass
seed in I laid out a grid of #12 copper wire in a 18' radius from the
tower legs, this as well as the tower and antenna were tied into a
ground rod at the base of the tower. I had a weatherproof box outside
where I could disconnect coax so it couldn't feed into house during
t-storm.

I'll be setting similar situation up here at the new place, this time
for my HF Vertical, my UHF/VHF antennas, and my multi-band Inverted V.

73 de Keith
--
KC8TCQ
ARRL Member - ARES
SKYWARN

Don't forget to ground your tomato plants. g

"I Am Not George" wrote in message
m...
"I Am Not God" wrote:
"I Am Not George" wrote in message
om...
(Twistedhed) wrote in message
...
From: (I Am Not George)
(Twistedhed) wrote:
N3CVJ said if you're gonna break the law, (dxing is technically
against
the law on cb) 'tis better to do it from a portable station than
from
your home.

Where did he say that you lying sack of dog

poop?


Let's see....N3CVJ wrote:
(snip)

OMG you obsessed bag of parakeet turd causing trouble for Dave Hall
again. Is it because you two share the same first name.

Shut up, George.

Randy you don't even know who the **** your talking to so STFU things
were fine here Steveo took a rest and so did landfag and what do you
know we had some cb topics for a change. Then Twisted****forbrains
decided to troll Dave Hall and cause trouble. Now you run in to go to
bat for Twisty? Go back to the pipe asspuppet

Don't do that. But, I do have friends that grow shrooms. I think you need
some to get your head back on straight, George.

(I Am Not George) wrote:
"I Am Not God" wrote:
"I Am Not George" wrote in message
om...
(Twistedhed) wrote in message
...
From: (I Am Not George)
(Twistedhed) wrote:
N3CVJ said if you're gonna break the law, (dxing is technically
against
the law on cb) 'tis better to do it from a portable station than
from
your home.

Where did he say that you lying sack of dog

poop?


Let's see....N3CVJ wrote:
(snip)

OMG you obsessed bag of parakeet turd causing trouble for Dave Hall
again. Is it because you two share the same first name.

Shut up, George.

Randy you don't even know who the **** your talking to so STFU things
were fine here Steveo took a rest

I'm not resting, I put you and staintard back in your place.


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| |/ / _ \ | | |/ __| |/ _ \ \ /\ / / '_ \|_ / | '__| | | | |/ _ \
| __/ |_| | (__| | (_) \ V V /| | | |/ / | | | |_| | | __/
|_|\_\___|\__, |\___|_|\___/ \_/\_/ |_| |_/___| |_| \__,_|_|\___|

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"Steveo" wrote in message
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(I Am Not George) wrote:
"I Am Not God" wrote:
"I Am Not George" wrote in message
om...
(Twistedhed) wrote in message
...
From: (I Am Not George)
(Twistedhed) wrote:
N3CVJ said if you're gonna break the law, (dxing is technically
against
the law on cb) 'tis better to do it from a portable station than
from
your home.

Where did he say that you lying sack of dog

poop?


Let's see....N3CVJ wrote:
(snip)

OMG you obsessed bag of parakeet turd causing trouble for Dave Hall
again. Is it because you two share the same first name.

Shut up, George.

Randy you don't even know who the **** your talking to so STFU things
were fine here Steveo took a rest

I'm not resting, I put you and staintard back in your place.


_ _ _
| | _____ _ _ ___| | _____ ___ __ ____ _ __ _ _| | ___
| |/ / _ \ | | |/ __| |/ _ \ \ /\ / / '_ \|_ / | '__| | | | |/ _ \
| __/ |_| | (__| | (_) \ V V /| | | |/ / | | | |_| | | __/
|_|\_\___|\__, |\___|_|\___/ \_/\_/ |_| |_/___| |_| \__,_|_|\___|

|___/


LMAO!!! Like that blow hard has anything to do
with what we post or do........................ A one troll
that George Busch wa3moj is.

Landshark

"Steveo" wrote in message
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| |/ / _ \ | | |/ __| |/ _ \ \ /\ / / '_ \|_ / | '__| | | | |/ _ \
| __/ |_| | (__| | (_) \ V V /| | | |/ / | | | |_| | | __/
|_|\_\___|\__, |\___|_|\___/ \_/\_/ |_| |_/___| |_| \__,_|_|\___|

Whats that supposed to be the scratches on your dick from landfags teeth

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:04:13 GMT, "I Am Not God"
wrote:


"Keith Hosman" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:33:27 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:



My previous dwelling besides having a similar setup to what Frank
described I also had my antenna and tower grounded. I put my tower out
in the old garden bed (I moved my garden every few years so as to give
nutrients a chance to rebuild), and before I put fill dirt and grass
seed in I laid out a grid of #12 copper wire in a 18' radius from the
tower legs, this as well as the tower and antenna were tied into a
ground rod at the base of the tower. I had a weatherproof box outside
where I could disconnect coax so it couldn't feed into house during
t-storm.

I'll be setting similar situation up here at the new place, this time
for my HF Vertical, my UHF/VHF antennas, and my multi-band Inverted V.

73 de Keith
--
KC8TCQ
ARRL Member - ARES
SKYWARN

Don't forget to ground your tomato plants. g


Nah, fried tomatoes are delicious, same with squash, onions, jalapeno
peppers, and using lightning to fry them saves me the money I'd be
spending to heat up the skillet hihi.

73 de Keith
--
KC8TCQ
ARRL Member - ARES
SKYWARN