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Old February 24th 04, 02:16 AM
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He who buys from the communists, will be ripped off by the COMMUNISTS
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Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



On 5 Feb 2004 15:28:07 -0800, (BILL) wrote:

THIS IS MY STORY- THERE ARE MANY MORE, JUST SEARCH THE INTERNET
GROUPS!!!!!


The following is a copy of a product return report I sent to copper.

To who it may concern,
This amp was delivered to me on Jan. 9 2004, cod by ups. I hooked it
up properly to my Cobra 142gtl base and let it set at room temp to
allow it to warm up some as it came off the truck very cold. I used it
on AM for approx 15 min with no problems. I switched both amp and
radio to sb and spoke to a friend for a short time,no problems. I
keyed the mic again and before speaking the amp made a pop noise and I
noticed smoke comming out of the top vent. I shut unit off and put it
right back in the box that it arrived in. My radio was bought new by
me, and has never had any mods or so called golden screw drivers in
it. I believe the radio comes from the factory in good working order
and does not require any "fixing to operate properly, thus longer life
radio parts from undue stress. This radio does 4-5 watts on am and a
max of 12(with screem in mic) on sb. I use a stock cobra mic and a
solarcon antenna. These facts I have stated I swear to. I believe the
proper thing to do is exchange this unit for a new working one as I
believe the unit sent was defective. This would be the proper thing to
do rather than have the customer wait on repairs, parts or ect. If I
must wait then so be it. Thanks you, William D-n-v-n

Mr. D-n-v-n,
We received your amp back from our repair shop and they said that you
overdrove the
unit and blew it up. The repair bill will be $102.00. Let me know what
you want to do.
Thanks
Suzanne

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Old February 25th 04, 03:52 AM
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Communist or not, It is a fact that 4-5 watts in to a low drive amp is
not good. I am not saying that was the reason it blew, but you stated
in you message to copper that you was putting this into this amp and
they responded accordingly. Im not sure what brand and model of amp it
was, so I cant say to much on that. When you get an amp, do not drive
it with more than 3 watts unless it is a high drive amp. Even the amps
that say they will take up to 7 watts input are full of crap.

When you get another amp, be sure not to overdrive it. If you have the
radio tuned to the amp or turn the radio down to 3 watts, it will be
fine. Make sure you have a good match as well! If it blows, then it
isn't your fault. In a 142, you can easily turn the dead key down by
turning a variable resistor in the back right hand corner. Get the
info off the net, because I dont remember what number the VR is. Your
forward swing will not be affected by this either nor will SSB.

All though a new amp should not have done this that soon, Copper
should have replaced it at no charge and warned you that the radio
would have to be tuned. Also note: It is against FCC regulations to
use external amplifiers on 11 meters. Not good to admit that to
Copper. They can also use that against you. Even though they know it
can be used there and know it was most likely used there, your self
admittance of this should have been conceiled.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:16:16 -0500, Dave or Debby
wrote:

He who buys from the communists, will be ripped off by the COMMUNISTS
!
Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



On 5 Feb 2004 15:28:07 -0800, (BILL) wrote:

THIS IS MY STORY- THERE ARE MANY MORE, JUST SEARCH THE INTERNET
GROUPS!!!!!


The following is a copy of a product return report I sent to copper.

To who it may concern,
This amp was delivered to me on Jan. 9 2004, cod by ups. I hooked it
up properly to my Cobra 142gtl base and let it set at room temp to
allow it to warm up some as it came off the truck very cold. I used it
on AM for approx 15 min with no problems. I switched both amp and
radio to sb and spoke to a friend for a short time,no problems. I
keyed the mic again and before speaking the amp made a pop noise and I
noticed smoke comming out of the top vent. I shut unit off and put it
right back in the box that it arrived in. My radio was bought new by
me, and has never had any mods or so called golden screw drivers in
it. I believe the radio comes from the factory in good working order
and does not require any "fixing to operate properly, thus longer life
radio parts from undue stress. This radio does 4-5 watts on am and a
max of 12(with screem in mic) on sb. I use a stock cobra mic and a
solarcon antenna. These facts I have stated I swear to. I believe the
proper thing to do is exchange this unit for a new working one as I
believe the unit sent was defective. This would be the proper thing to
do rather than have the customer wait on repairs, parts or ect. If I
must wait then so be it. Thanks you, William D-n-v-n

Mr. D-n-v-n,
We received your amp back from our repair shop and they said that you
overdrove the
unit and blew it up. The repair bill will be $102.00. Let me know what
you want to do.
Thanks
Suzanne

YOU BE THE JUDGE OF ALL THIS_




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Old February 25th 04, 01:45 PM
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"Old School" wrote in message
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Communist or not, It is a fact that 4-5 watts in to a low drive amp is
not good. I am not saying that was the reason it blew, but you stated
in you message to copper that you was putting this into this amp and
they responded accordingly. Im not sure what brand and model of amp it
was, so I cant say to much on that. When you get an amp, do not drive
it with more than 3 watts unless it is a high drive amp. Even the amps
that say they will take up to 7 watts input are full of crap.


Most radios will put out about half the PEP on SSB. With the CB he
describes, that would be about 6 watts average, peaking up to 12 watts if he
gave a good 'ole boy "YeeHaw! I gots me a new lineear!" into the microphone,
so overdriving is a definately posibility, but for it to blow with a short
burst is really bad.

All though a new amp should not have done this that soon, Copper
should have replaced it at no charge and warned you that the radio
would have to be tuned. Also note: It is against FCC regulations to
use external amplifiers on 11 meters. Not good to admit that to
Copper. They can also use that against you. Even though they know it
can be used there and know it was most likely used there, your self
admittance of this should have been conceiled.


Of course, commercial amplifiers capable of operating 25 - 30mhz with drive
that low out of the box are not legal to sell, so Copper is lucky the FCC
hasn't snatched them up like they have so many other online CB shop.

Personally, I bought an Imax 2000 many years ago from them and it's still on
the roof, working just fine!


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Old February 25th 04, 06:34 AM
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Old School wrote:
Also note: It is against FCC regulations to
use external amplifiers on 11 meters. Not good to admit that to
Copper. They can also use that against you. Even though they know it
can be used there and know it was most likely used there, your self
admittance of this should have been conceiled.


LMAO it must suck to be a keyclown always getting ripped off and no
recourse because your illegal.
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Old February 25th 04, 08:00 PM
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"Phil D. Bucket" wrote in

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Toll Free wrote:
Of course you do but you are a fan of illegal cb. And why
were these palomar amps never advertised in ham mags?


Again proving your nothing but a troll.


They where advertised. In most of the Ham


radio magz of


yesteryear.


Toll_Free





OK if this particular Palomar amp is/was such a popular amateur
amp why can't you discuss it on QRZ or rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors

or
other "non-CB" forum?
_
Duh. The original poster won't give his callsign, Skipp won't give

his
callsign, and neither will you. Wonder why, LOL.





Thats not me posting that you ****tard now go take a length of RG8 and
shove it up your ass


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Old February 26th 04, 08:22 PM
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That's not YOU? Who said it was? It was wa3moj posting,,he said so.

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Old February 25th 04, 01:41 PM
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Kinda reminds me of an episode of Cops I saw last night. There was a woman
who flagged down the cops and said she gave someone $20 for crack, and they
didn't give her the crack.

Maybe he should contact the FCC to see if they can mediate this dispute.


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Old February 25th 04, 01:43 PM
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"Andy Cogswell" SHORECOGS at COMCAST DOT NET wrote:
Kinda reminds me of an episode of Cops I saw last night. There was a
woman who flagged down the cops and said she gave someone $20 for crack,
and they didn't give her the crack.

Maybe he should contact the FCC to see if they can mediate this dispute.


Hehe, Darwins theory.

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