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Old February 23rd 05, 03:22 AM
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Vinnie S. wrote:
On 23 Feb 2005 02:24:37 GMT, Steveo wrote:

People have owners that that don't spen money, and bitch
about it. Then the bitch about owners that do spend money. Well, which
is it?

Our payroll may be less than 50 million this year, what will the Yankees
be?


Probably over 200. But he built them into this commerical empire, and
throws his money back into them.

But when you say he throws 'his money into them' you're talking about
media generated funds. That's not money out of his own pocket.

The only reason it is tolerated can be explained in two letters.

Guess which?

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Old February 23rd 05, 03:37 AM
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On 23 Feb 2005 03:22:01 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S. wrote:
On 23 Feb 2005 02:24:37 GMT, Steveo wrote:

People have owners that that don't spen money, and bitch
about it. Then the bitch about owners that do spend money. Well, which
is it?

Our payroll may be less than 50 million this year, what will the Yankees
be?


Probably over 200. But he built them into this commerical empire, and
throws his money back into them.

But when you say he throws 'his money into them' you're talking about
media generated funds. That's not money out of his own pocket.


He started the YES network. He was not the first. Boston had NESN. Atlanta has
TBS. But everyone only wants his money. This year, the Mets are following suit
with their own network.

You want to punish him because he is resourceful and creative?

The only reason it is tolerated can be explained in two letters.

Guess which?



I am not going to argue that the balance is too great in one direction. You are
right. There needs to be a better balance. But he is playing by the rules for
which the other owners set up. He didn't agree to those rules. The Yankees were
the only team to vote no on the current CBA.

Regarding the NFL and NBA, they are poor examples because neither you nor my
football (Jets, Browns), or basketball (Knicks, Cavs) teams, had any
championship in recent history. In fact, in the NBA since 1980, 6 teams have 24
championships. The Lakers, Bulls, Celts, Pistons, Spurs, and Rockets. That
doesn't look like balance to me. How do you think the LA clippers feel about
balance? When are my knicks going to win? What about the Jets? Before herm, they
were a league doormat for 25 years.

BTW, I went you the ESPN website to see what the Tribe spent. It was 34 million,
3rd from the bottom. I would also like for you to know that Jim Dolan, the
brother of the owner of the Tribe, is so dead set against the Jets getting a
stadium on the west side, that he offered 600 million for the land that the Jets
want. And he is the guy that essentially owns the Tribe, Knick, Rangers, MSG.

I don't know about you, but if he spends 34 million on your payroll, and has 600
million for land just to keep the jets out, Steinbrenner isn't the problem.

Vinnie S.
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Old February 23rd 05, 04:00 AM
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Vinnie S. wrote:
On 23 Feb 2005 03:22:01 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S. wrote:
On 23 Feb 2005 02:24:37 GMT, Steveo wrote:

People have owners that that don't spen money, and bitch
about it. Then the bitch about owners that do spend money. Well,
which is it?

Our payroll may be less than 50 million this year, what will the
Yankees be?

Probably over 200. But he built them into this commerical empire, and
throws his money back into them.

But when you say he throws 'his money into them' you're talking about
media generated funds. That's not money out of his own pocket.


He started the YES network. He was not the first. Boston had NESN.
Atlanta has TBS. But everyone only wants his money.

Time out, Vin. He doesn't move the rich man meter in real life, so
to say everyone only wants his money is a real stretch. The Browns
owner (Lerner)is worth real writing home about money.

The difference is in the TV revenue. You can't admit that?

This year, the Mets
are following suit with their own network.

Two Bogart's now, right Randy?


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Old February 23rd 05, 04:19 AM
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On 23 Feb 2005 04:00:41 GMT, Steveo wrote:


He started the YES network. He was not the first. Boston had NESN.
Atlanta has TBS. But everyone only wants his money.

Time out, Vin. He doesn't move the rich man meter in real life, so
to say everyone only wants his money is a real stretch. The Browns
owner (Lerner)is worth real writing home about money.


Well, the small market want and get his money.

The difference is in the TV revenue. You can't admit that?


TV revenue he created. Sure I admit it. That revenue wasn't their until he
signed a 500 million cable deal, in 1987. That was 14 years *after* he purchased
the Yankees. And of all that money in 1987, he didn't win a championship until 9
years later.


Now shut up, and good night. We will talk tomorrow !!!!!

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Old February 23rd 05, 04:21 AM
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Now shut up, and good night. We will talk tomorrow !!!!!

Enzo

We'll be talking all season about how much you cheat.

Nite.

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On 23 Feb 2005 04:21:25 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S. wrote:
Now shut up, and good night. We will talk tomorrow !!!!!

Enzo

We'll be talking all season about how much you cheat.

Nite.


Moped, remind me when you go to Dayton.

Nite.

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