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On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 03:58:16 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote: Yet for some reason, you are -still- unable (or unwilling) to provide the names of those "senior level engineers". And what difference would it make if I posted them? You don't know them. Mind if I use that excuse the next time -you- ask for references? I've never asked you for personal references. I understand the futility of such a request. Then you should also understand the insignificance of any claims made based upon sources you are unwilling (or unable) to provide. Certainly. Then why do you keep invoking sources that, by your own admission, have no credibility? Are you attempting to achieve truth by repitition? Or are you just plain stupid? Well, gentlemen understand that certain personal experience contributes to the insight on certain subjects. But if you want to turn every claim into an "It's a lie until irrefutable proof positive is offered to substantiate it", situation then ok, your point is valid. In that case, there's no further point in debating, since that level of proof is usually not forthcoming. , or a picture of your house and boat, or any other circumstantial evidence that supports your claim. Of course you won't -- you will just come up with more excuses. I already have pictures of both on my website. Next? See below..... So why the secrecy, Dave? I graduated EWU and I'm proud of it. So you say. We have only your word for that. I have no problem telling anyone where I went to school, and for two very good reasons: First, anyone can verify that I both attended and graduated from EWU. No they can verify that someone by the same name (Maybe N7VCF) graduated from EWU. Sure, and I can just take a picture of someone else's diploma and call it mine, just like you can take a picture of someone else's house and boat and call it your's, right? Keep going, you're getting warmer...... Get a clue already..... my middle initial is D, not C. And I don't recall N7VCF ever claiming to have graduated from EWU. Do you? No, but it was an example of someone with a similar name. Just to illustrate my point. But........... If I wanted to lie, I could find a school where someone named "Dave Hall" (And there's bound to be plenty given the popularity of my name) attended, and claim that it was me. Then how would you know for sure? How do I know for sure that those pictures are of your house and your boat? I don't. Exactly! Thank you for finally getting the point Frank. The fact is that you can not be sure of any information one may post to "verify" their status in life. With the skills of the internet, one can create a completely artificial identity. So therefore, it is pointless to continue to ask. With the internet you can also -confirm- a true identity. But that's not what I'm asking -- I'm simply asking for proof that you make as much money as you claim; that you work in the engineering field as you claim; that you attended an electronic tech school as you claim; etc. Or should I just file those claims in the basket along with your imaginary engineer sources? You just admitted above that I could forge a diploma, or present pictures of things that aren't mine and claim they are. So if I told you the name of the schools I attended, or submitted a pay stub, by your own admission, you couldn't be sure it was mine. So why should I bother? I have far more reference material than that one book could ever provide. Ah yes, the internet -- the "global pornography network"; the "poor-man's library"; the "information superhighway"..... where any kid with a computer and some pocket change can 'source' any tidbit of mental popcorn, fact or fiction, knowing that some gullible retard will eventually incorporate it into his or her "core belief" system. My, my, do I detect a bit of contempt? Maybe it bothers you that I (and many others) can access information on the internet for free instantly, (and currently) where it cost you hundreds of dollars to amass in book form? No contempt at all -- if you want to limit your resources because you're too lazy to read a book then that's your problem. Lazy? Are you some sort of luddite purist? In the time it would take me to drive to a library (And where I live, it's a bit of a hike), find an appropriate book, sign it out, and bring it home, I could have read much more similar information on-line at no cost, using no fossil greenhouse gas fuel, and at a great saving in precious personal time. It's not about being lazy, it's about efficiency. Working smarter. Perhaps you're unaware of the phrase: "The paper never refuses ink". No, I've heard it plenty of times before -- you use the cliche as if it were God's Eleventh Commandment. Here's another one: "If the shoe fits......." It's not just the internet where a passionate pundit can publish their slanted viewpoints. Just because it's in hardback form doesn't mean than an equally gullible retard won't eventually incorporate it into his or her "core belief" system. The paper may not refuse ink but publishers will usually refuse the submission of a half-baked "passionate pundit". Really? Then I guess by this revelation, that you'd endorse the published books by such people as Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bernard Goldberg, and Micheal Medved as being totally correct, factual, insightful, and rational? I guess it never occurred to you that profit motivation in the publishing field is a far greater motivator than factual integrity. Along those lines, I'm sure you have found the homepage for the Hudson Institute, and if you really had any money I'm sure you be paying your tithes to them on a monthly basis. But be careful of what political ideologies you support, Dave -- you might end up getting drafted at the spry young age of 60 after your neocon bretheren ever manage to convince Bush that invading China is a good idea. Maybe it is. Neither you nor I have any idea what is really going through the minds in Bejing...... Dave, you have no idea what is going through the mind of any rational person in China or anywhere else in the world. Of course not. I don't have your crystal ball. Fortunately for you, the rest of us do. I doubt that you realize just how asinine that statement is. You only know what other people tell you. The problem is, you trust the wrong people. Dave "Sandbagger" |
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