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Old November 23rd 04, 06:53 PM
 
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On 23 Nov 2004 06:29:39 GMT, Alun wrote:

Foreigners have been able to get US licences for many decades. I'm one.

Only representatives of a foreign government can't get a US call. Try
reading Part 97.

73 de Alun, N3KIP


I have read it. A few times. If you live in the U.S. and get a U.S.
license, I doubt there's any complaints. If you live in Germany,
have never been to the U.S., and never intend to go to the U.S.,
I doubt many people would deem it necessary for you to have a
U.S. license.

73, Jim KH2D


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Old November 23rd 04, 07:07 PM
 
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:13:03 GMT, Robert Casey
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At least the FCC did do something about club calls. They took 42 of
them away from a JA few years back :-) But for some strange reason,
they let him keep his primary station license, a W9 extra class U.S.
call.

73, Jim KH2D


Maybe they should get calls like WJ#XXX, or KJ#XXX...
If the FCC decides that it's proper for foriegners to
get American ham licenses.....


Or maybe they should just operate as JA1xxx/W7, which they are
entitled to do with NO paperwork required. You're missing the point.

If somebody from outside the U.S. lives in U.S., and wants to get
a U.S. call, very few people would have a problem with that. I
sure don't have a problem with that.

The problem is the use of bogus addresses by people who have
never set foot in the U.S. to get U.S. licenses.

The FCC a long time ago decided it was proper for non U.S. citizens
in the U.S. to get U.S. licenses, they removed the citizenship
requierment years ago. I doubt they ever intended for the JA ham
club in Tokyo to get a P.O. Box in California so they could get a
thousand U.S. licenses as souvenirs.....

And the other problem is with V.E. tests that are administered
outside of the U.S. by foreign nationals. Yes, there should be U.S.
amateur radio tests available in Japan - at the U.S. embassy so
that U.S. citizens and U.S. military personel could take them - but
not at the sushi bar administered by three JA's who have U.S.
souvenir call signs. And there should not be U.S. license exams
at a hamfest in the Philippines so that anybody who wants a U.S.
license can buy one.

Why can't I take a test for a Japanese ham license in Florida ?

73, Jim KH2D


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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:13:03 GMT, Robert Casey
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At least the FCC did do something about club calls. They took 42 of
them away from a JA few years back :-) But for some strange reason,
they let him keep his primary station license, a W9 extra class U.S.
call.

73, Jim KH2D


Maybe they should get calls like WJ#XXX, or KJ#XXX...
If the FCC decides that it's proper for foriegners to
get American ham licenses.....


Or maybe they should just operate as JA1xxx/W7, which they are
entitled to do with NO paperwork required. You're missing the point.

If somebody from outside the U.S. lives in U.S., and wants to get
a U.S. call, very few people would have a problem with that. I
sure don't have a problem with that.

The problem is the use of bogus addresses by people who have
never set foot in the U.S. to get U.S. licenses.

The FCC a long time ago decided it was proper for non U.S. citizens
in the U.S. to get U.S. licenses, they removed the citizenship
requierment years ago. I doubt they ever intended for the JA ham
club in Tokyo to get a P.O. Box in California so they could get a
thousand U.S. licenses as souvenirs.....

And the other problem is with V.E. tests that are administered
outside of the U.S. by foreign nationals. Yes, there should be U.S.
amateur radio tests available in Japan - at the U.S. embassy so
that U.S. citizens and U.S. military personel could take them - but
not at the sushi bar administered by three JA's who have U.S.
souvenir call signs. And there should not be U.S. license exams
at a hamfest in the Philippines so that anybody who wants a U.S.
license can buy one.

Why can't I take a test for a Japanese ham license in Florida ?

73, Jim KH2D


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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:01:42 +0000, Walt Davidson
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It would solve a lot of the problems if KH2's had to trade in their
callsigns in exchange for a W4 when they went to live in Florida!
:-))))

73 de G3NYY


Used to be if I lived in Maryland, and I moved to Florida, I had to
give up my 3 call for a new 4 call that the FCC computer spit out for
me.

Used to be that if you lived in the 4th call district, you couldn't
get a vanity call with any number but 4 in it, but now you can.

We don't do that anymore. Paperwork reduction act, Walter.
No more W4 extra calls left. The guys in California got them all :-)

FCC is too busy issuing licenses to JA's :-)

Personally, I think the FCC should charge $100 a year for a license,
which would give them an extra $70 million a year to administer the
system properly.

73, Jim KH2D


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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:01:42 +0000, Walt Davidson
wrote:

It would solve a lot of the problems if KH2's had to trade in their
callsigns in exchange for a W4 when they went to live in Florida!
:-))))

73 de G3NYY


Used to be if I lived in Maryland, and I moved to Florida, I had to
give up my 3 call for a new 4 call that the FCC computer spit out for
me.

Used to be that if you lived in the 4th call district, you couldn't
get a vanity call with any number but 4 in it, but now you can.

We don't do that anymore. Paperwork reduction act, Walter.
No more W4 extra calls left. The guys in California got them all :-)

FCC is too busy issuing licenses to JA's :-)

Personally, I think the FCC should charge $100 a year for a license,
which would give them an extra $70 million a year to administer the
system properly.

73, Jim KH2D


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Old November 24th 04, 12:40 AM
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:01:42 +0000, Walt Davidson
wrote:

It would solve a lot of the problems if KH2's had to trade in their
callsigns in exchange for a W4 when they went to live in Florida!
:-))))

73 de G3NYY


Used to be if I lived in Maryland, and I moved to Florida, I had to
give up my 3 call for a new 4 call that the FCC computer spit out for
me.

Used to be that if you lived in the 4th call district, you couldn't
get a vanity call with any number but 4 in it, but now you can.

We don't do that anymore. Paperwork reduction act, Walter.
No more W4 extra calls left. The guys in California got them all :-)


The 4 land Extra calls other than the 2x2 beginning with A disappeared 10
years ago. That's before the vanity system even went into effect. So you
can't blame California! ( Yes I saw the :-) )

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:01:42 +0000, Walt Davidson
wrote:

It would solve a lot of the problems if KH2's had to trade in their
callsigns in exchange for a W4 when they went to live in Florida!
:-))))

73 de G3NYY


Used to be if I lived in Maryland, and I moved to Florida, I had to
give up my 3 call for a new 4 call that the FCC computer spit out for
me.

Used to be that if you lived in the 4th call district, you couldn't
get a vanity call with any number but 4 in it, but now you can.

We don't do that anymore. Paperwork reduction act, Walter.
No more W4 extra calls left. The guys in California got them all :-)


The 4 land Extra calls other than the 2x2 beginning with A disappeared 10
years ago. That's before the vanity system even went into effect. So you
can't blame California! ( Yes I saw the :-) )

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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