Hhhmmm, thought this group was rec.radio.amateur.equipment?
The FT-847 is amateur equiptment.
:-)


Mike Coslo wrote:

Because this isn't the group for that, that's why. The groups are
divided into topics so that people have an idea what might be in them.


Mark Russo wrote:
Why the heck not? As long as one uses FA in the subject line.
I know some folks are touchy about things like that.
I picked up a Yaesu FT-847 on Ebay via a post here.
I paid $675 for it on ebay about a year ago.
The rig is flawless and works great!!
Keep the ebay posts coming!!!


Someone else will be wondering why the heck they can't post ebay ads for
their Hummel figurines soon!

But then again, some people enjoy spam too! 8^)

- Mike -

Once again -- please read the guidelines to the rec.radio news groups
At URL:
http://faqs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/radio/personal-intro

It sez:
The swap group is rec.radio.swap. This recognizes a fact that became
evident shortly after the original group was formed: Hams don't just swap
ham radio gear, and other folks besides hams swap ham equipment. If you
have radio equipment, or test gear, or computer stuff that hams would be
interested in, here's the place. Equipment wanted postings belong here
too.

Discussions about the equipment generally don't; if you wish to
discuss a particular posting with the buyer, email is a much better way to
do it, and the other groups, especially .equipment and .homebrew, are the
place for public discussions.


73 From The Wilderness Keyboard
"Mark Russo" wrote in message ...
Hhhmmm, thought this group was rec.radio.amateur.equipment?
The FT-847 is amateur equiptment.
:-)

Mike Coslo wrote:

Because this isn't the group for that, that's why. The groups are
divided into topics so that people have an idea what might be in them.


Mark Russo wrote:
Why the heck not? As long as one uses FA in the subject line.
I know some folks are touchy about things like that.
I picked up a Yaesu FT-847 on Ebay via a post here.
I paid $675 for it on ebay about a year ago.
The rig is flawless and works great!!
Keep the ebay posts coming!!!

Someone else will be wondering why the heck they can't post ebay ads for
their Hummel figurines soon!

But then again, some people enjoy spam too! 8^)

- Mike -

rec.radio.swap is the place to buy, sell, swap, note an auction and just plain give away stuff.


rec.radio.amateur.equipment is a forum to post info, questions, and answers about equipment -- such as performance, troubleshooting, operation etc --- NOT for buy, sell, swap, note an auction etc

Who sez so --- well to create order out of chaos -- guidelines were presented and adapted -- see URL:
http://faqs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/radio/personal-intro

Note it sez

"It's important to post messages to the group that's appropriate for them,
and not to the groups that aren't. The whole idea of having different
newsgroups is so that folks who aren't interested in, say, homebrewing,
don't have to wade through messages about homebrewing on the way to read
about Field Day. Posting appropriately is just good etiquette."

So does one have to obey the guidelines -- NO since the NG's are free and mostly unmoderated.
But do we want to wade thru hundreds of message which don't fit the NG subject ????

I for one and many others won't read a post when it is in the wrong NG.

Nuff sed


--
73 From The Wilderness Keyboard
"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote in message news:l5Ryb.511$yf.219@fed1read01...

Once again -- please read the guidelines to the rec.radio news groups
At URL:
http://faqs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/radio/personal-intro

It sez:
The swap group is rec.radio.swap. This recognizes a fact that became
evident shortly after the original group was formed: Hams don't just swap
ham radio gear, and other folks besides hams swap ham equipment. If you
have radio equipment, or test gear, or computer stuff that hams would be
interested in, here's the place. Equipment wanted postings belong here
too.

Discussions about the equipment generally don't; if you wish to
discuss a particular posting with the buyer, email is a much better way to
do it, and the other groups, especially .equipment and .homebrew, are the
place for public discussions.


73 From The Wilderness Keyboard
"Mark Russo" wrote in message ...
Hhhmmm, thought this group was rec.radio.amateur.equipment?
The FT-847 is amateur equiptment.
:-)

Mike Coslo wrote:

Because this isn't the group for that, that's why. The groups are
divided into topics so that people have an idea what might be in them.


Mark Russo wrote:
Why the heck not? As long as one uses FA in the subject line.
I know some folks are touchy about things like that.
I picked up a Yaesu FT-847 on Ebay via a post here.
I paid $675 for it on ebay about a year ago.
The rig is flawless and works great!!
Keep the ebay posts coming!!!

Someone else will be wondering why the heck they can't post ebay ads for
their Hummel figurines soon!

But then again, some people enjoy spam too! 8^)

- Mike -

rec.radio.swap is the place to buy, sell, swap, note an auction and just plain give away stuff.


rec.radio.amateur.equipment is a forum to post info, questions, and answers about equipment -- such as performance, troubleshooting, operation etc --- NOT for buy, sell, swap, note an auction etc

Who sez so --- well to create order out of chaos -- guidelines were presented and adapted -- see URL:
http://faqs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/radio/personal-intro

Note it sez

"It's important to post messages to the group that's appropriate for them,
and not to the groups that aren't. The whole idea of having different
newsgroups is so that folks who aren't interested in, say, homebrewing,
don't have to wade through messages about homebrewing on the way to read
about Field Day. Posting appropriately is just good etiquette."

So does one have to obey the guidelines -- NO since the NG's are free and mostly unmoderated.
But do we want to wade thru hundreds of message which don't fit the NG subject ????

I for one and many others won't read a post when it is in the wrong NG.

Nuff sed


--
73 From The Wilderness Keyboard
"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote in message news:l5Ryb.511$yf.219@fed1read01...

Once again -- please read the guidelines to the rec.radio news groups
At URL:
http://faqs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/radio/personal-intro

It sez:
The swap group is rec.radio.swap. This recognizes a fact that became
evident shortly after the original group was formed: Hams don't just swap
ham radio gear, and other folks besides hams swap ham equipment. If you
have radio equipment, or test gear, or computer stuff that hams would be
interested in, here's the place. Equipment wanted postings belong here
too.

Discussions about the equipment generally don't; if you wish to
discuss a particular posting with the buyer, email is a much better way to
do it, and the other groups, especially .equipment and .homebrew, are the
place for public discussions.


73 From The Wilderness Keyboard
"Mark Russo" wrote in message ...
Hhhmmm, thought this group was rec.radio.amateur.equipment?
The FT-847 is amateur equiptment.
:-)

Mike Coslo wrote:

Because this isn't the group for that, that's why. The groups are
divided into topics so that people have an idea what might be in them.


Mark Russo wrote:
Why the heck not? As long as one uses FA in the subject line.
I know some folks are touchy about things like that.
I picked up a Yaesu FT-847 on Ebay via a post here.
I paid $675 for it on ebay about a year ago.
The rig is flawless and works great!!
Keep the ebay posts coming!!!

Someone else will be wondering why the heck they can't post ebay ads for
their Hummel figurines soon!

But then again, some people enjoy spam too! 8^)

- Mike -

Hhhmmm, thought this group was rec.radio.amateur.equipment?
The FT-847 is amateur equiptment.
:-)


It is. "All about production amateur radio hardware" according to
newsgroup archive info. I believe the FAQ does state this, but the FAQ
for this newsgroup seems to be "mis-placed" on the official FAQ FTP site
at the moment. Bottom line... discussion, not FOR SALE postings. The
rec.radio.swap newgroup is for that, and it rediculously redundant to
post for sale items on any, or all, of the other amateur radio discussion
newsgroups.


Ed WB6SAT

Ed G. wrote:

Hhhmmm, thought this group was rec.radio.amateur.equipment?
The FT-847 is amateur equiptment.
:-)



It is. "All about production amateur radio hardware" according to
newsgroup archive info. I believe the FAQ does state this, but the FAQ
for this newsgroup seems to be "mis-placed" on the official FAQ FTP site
at the moment. Bottom line... discussion, not FOR SALE postings. The
rec.radio.swap newgroup is for that, and it rediculously redundant to
post for sale items on any, or all, of the other amateur radio discussion
newsgroups.


Ed WB6SAT

Ebay sellers are responsible for the ruin of a lot of newsgroups. They
don't care about abiding by any FAQs or Charters, they just want to try
to dig another buck out of their auction.

JJ wrote:

Ebay sellers are responsible for the ruin of a lot of newsgroups. They
don't care about abiding by any FAQs or Charters, they just want to try
to dig another buck out of their auction.


Just one more reason why I hate Peebay with a passion. The hard core
sellers with their self righteous attitude are just another form of spam.

- Mike -

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
JJ wrote:

Ebay sellers are responsible for the ruin of a lot of newsgroups. They
don't care about abiding by any FAQs or Charters, they just want to try
to dig another buck out of their auction.


Just one more reason why I hate Peebay with a passion. The hard core
sellers with their self righteous attitude are just another form of spam.

- Mike -


Though I agree in part that E-bay and private ads shouldn't be in "this"
type of news group, I'd much rather see them listed so long as they have
FA/FS, etc as a header than ads for sexual drugs, devices, porn, etc. At
least the radio gear IS on topic. I've put ads here in the past myself for
parts I felt some may be interested in. Some which were for older gear. I
too have seen some interesting ads in here which caught my eye. As any and
all have the option to do, I CAN SKIP THEM if not interested. Just my 2
cents. G.W.

Ghost writer wrote:




Though I agree in part that E-bay and private ads shouldn't be in "this"
type of news group, I'd much rather see them listed so long as they have
FA/FS, etc as a header than ads for sexual drugs, devices, porn, etc. At
least the radio gear IS on topic. I've put ads here in the past myself for
parts I felt some may be interested in. Some which were for older gear. I
too have seen some interesting ads in here which caught my eye. As any and
all have the option to do, I CAN SKIP THEM if not interested. Just my 2
cents. G.W.

What happens is others see the FA and FS ads and assume it must be OK to
post such, do so, and the group tends to become more of a place for ebay
sellers to hawk their wares than a discussion group. That is what
happened to the boatanchor group, very little discussion about
boatanchors there anymore because the ebay jokers insist on using it to
hawk their ebay ads instead of placing those ads in one of the .swap
groups where they belong. Now anyone who wishes to discuss boatanchors
does not bother with the group because they know it is full of ebayers
trying to get another buck for their junk on ebay. So if you go to the
boatanchors group and skip the FA/FS ads, there isn't anything left
thanks to those who choose exercise their 'rights' and ignore FAQ's and
Charters.

Ghost writer wrote:




Though I agree in part that E-bay and private ads shouldn't be in "this"
type of news group, I'd much rather see them listed so long as they have
FA/FS, etc as a header than ads for sexual drugs, devices, porn, etc. At
least the radio gear IS on topic. I've put ads here in the past myself for
parts I felt some may be interested in. Some which were for older gear. I
too have seen some interesting ads in here which caught my eye. As any and
all have the option to do, I CAN SKIP THEM if not interested. Just my 2
cents. G.W.

What happens is others see the FA and FS ads and assume it must be OK to
post such, do so, and the group tends to become more of a place for ebay
sellers to hawk their wares than a discussion group. That is what
happened to the boatanchor group, very little discussion about
boatanchors there anymore because the ebay jokers insist on using it to
hawk their ebay ads instead of placing those ads in one of the .swap
groups where they belong. Now anyone who wishes to discuss boatanchors
does not bother with the group because they know it is full of ebayers
trying to get another buck for their junk on ebay. So if you go to the
boatanchors group and skip the FA/FS ads, there isn't anything left
thanks to those who choose exercise their 'rights' and ignore FAQ's and
Charters.