Dee D. Flint wrote:

"Frank K3EKO" wrote in message
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Dee D. Flint wrote:

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MikeB wrote:


I am taking the Tech+ test soon and have some equipment-related
questions.

I know alot about electronics but nothing about amateur radio, nor do
I know anyone who does, so I hope this is the best newsgroup for info,
if not, let me know which group to ask my questions in!

I plan to start off with low-power CW and need to know what equipment
I'll need to get started. I searched the archives, but did not get
much solid info.

I plan on getting a basic "learning transceiver" off eBay to begin
with, then after I know what options I need and learn more, I'll get a
new one.

What features will I need to be able to start to do low-power CW, and
is there a preferred brand or model to look for?

Thanks,

MikeB

There is NO Tech Plus test. Only Tech, General and Extra.

-Frank



However, there is a Tech with HF privileges even though the license only
says Technician.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Yes, prior to restructuring.

Frank



And after restructuring. Since I am teaching a class, I have read the
current FCC rules and the current ARRL "Now You're Talking." Technicians
who pass a 5wpm code test get the old Tech+/Novice HF privileges.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

This arguement is pointless. You can't talk to a brick wall. I'm done
here.

73

Frank K3EKO

"Frank K3EKO" wrote in message
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Dee D. Flint wrote:

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MikeB wrote:

MikeB wrote:



wrote in message



There is NO Tech Plus test. Only Tech, General and Extra.

-Frank



Hmmmm. How about "Technicians with HF" (term is from the ARRL
website)? I was trying to say that I was also taking the code test
portion also.

MikeB

There is no Tech with HF. You need a General Class.

73

Frank K3EKO




Hmmmmm, the FCC

(http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...atorclass.html)says

"A Technician Class licensee who also has passed a 5 words-per-minute
(wpm) telegraphy examination receives privileges in four long distance
shortwave bands in the HF range (3-30 MHz) (Refer to Section 97.301)"

Is this incorrect or outdated? As I said before this is all new to me!

MikeB

Incorrect and Outdated. Prior to the FCC restructuring of the Amateur
Bands, Tech Plus's could operate on HF. However, with the new rules in
place, you need to be a General class or higher in order to operate on
HF.

73

Frank K3EKO


WRONG. Go read the rules. Any Tech who passes the 5wpm gets the same
HF
privileges as the old Tech Plus and Novice classes.

I am a VE and also teach license classes for prospective licensees.
Just
read the latest copy of ARRL's "Now You're Talking" or the Gordon West
study
guide.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI


If you're an authorized VE, they should revoke your VE status for
telling NEW Techs that they can operate on HF.


Please list the paragraph in Part 97 that states Technicians who pass 5wpm
no longer have HF privileges. Paragraph 97.301(e) clearly states they DO
have HF privileges in the 10 meter, 15 meter, 40 meter, and 80 meter bands.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

"Frank K3EKO" wrote in message
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Dee D. Flint wrote:

wrote in message
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MikeB wrote:

MikeB wrote:



wrote in message



There is NO Tech Plus test. Only Tech, General and Extra.

-Frank



Hmmmm. How about "Technicians with HF" (term is from the ARRL
website)? I was trying to say that I was also taking the code test
portion also.

MikeB

There is no Tech with HF. You need a General Class.

73

Frank K3EKO




Hmmmmm, the FCC

(http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...atorclass.html)says

"A Technician Class licensee who also has passed a 5 words-per-minute
(wpm) telegraphy examination receives privileges in four long distance
shortwave bands in the HF range (3-30 MHz) (Refer to Section 97.301)"

Is this incorrect or outdated? As I said before this is all new to me!

MikeB

Incorrect and Outdated. Prior to the FCC restructuring of the Amateur
Bands, Tech Plus's could operate on HF. However, with the new rules in
place, you need to be a General class or higher in order to operate on
HF.

73

Frank K3EKO


WRONG. Go read the rules. Any Tech who passes the 5wpm gets the same
HF
privileges as the old Tech Plus and Novice classes.

I am a VE and also teach license classes for prospective licensees.
Just
read the latest copy of ARRL's "Now You're Talking" or the Gordon West
study
guide.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI


If you're an authorized VE, they should revoke your VE status for
telling NEW Techs that they can operate on HF.


Please list the paragraph in Part 97 that states Technicians who pass 5wpm
no longer have HF privileges. Paragraph 97.301(e) clearly states they DO
have HF privileges in the 10 meter, 15 meter, 40 meter, and 80 meter bands.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

"Frank K3EKO" wrote in message
news:uqKhb.724221$YN5.646872@sccrnsc01...
Dee D. Flint wrote:

And after restructuring. Since I am teaching a class, I have read the
current FCC rules and the current ARRL "Now You're Talking."
Technicians
who pass a 5wpm code test get the old Tech+/Novice HF privileges.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

This arguement is pointless. You can't talk to a brick wall. I'm done
here.

73

Frank K3EKO

Paragraph 97.301(e) clearly lists the HF privileges for any Technician who
has passed the 5wpm code test.

So the brick wall is you and you have yet to state where you get your source
of information. It certainly is not the FCC rules.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

"Frank K3EKO" wrote in message
news:uqKhb.724221$YN5.646872@sccrnsc01...
Dee D. Flint wrote:

And after restructuring. Since I am teaching a class, I have read the
current FCC rules and the current ARRL "Now You're Talking."
Technicians
who pass a 5wpm code test get the old Tech+/Novice HF privileges.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

This arguement is pointless. You can't talk to a brick wall. I'm done
here.

73

Frank K3EKO

Paragraph 97.301(e) clearly lists the HF privileges for any Technician who
has passed the 5wpm code test.

So the brick wall is you and you have yet to state where you get your source
of information. It certainly is not the FCC rules.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

Dee D. Flint wrote:
"Frank K3EKO" wrote in message
news:uqKhb.724221$YN5.646872@sccrnsc01...

Dee D. Flint wrote:


And after restructuring. Since I am teaching a class, I have read the
current FCC rules and the current ARRL "Now You're Talking."

Technicians

who pass a 5wpm code test get the old Tech+/Novice HF privileges.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI


This arguement is pointless. You can't talk to a brick wall. I'm done
here.

73

Frank K3EKO


Paragraph 97.301(e) clearly lists the HF privileges for any Technician who
has passed the 5wpm code test.

So the brick wall is you and you have yet to state where you get your source
of information. It certainly is not the FCC rules.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

This is from the W5YI website.

http://www.w5yi.org/AmRadio.htm#TECHNICIAN

TECHNICIAN

Almost all radioamateurs begin their ham career as a "Tech." The
privileges of a Technician Class operator license include operating
stations while transmitting on channels in any of 17 frequency bands
above 50 MHz with up to 1,500 watts power. It also allows access to
the two most popular ham bands, 2 meters and 70 cm ...otherwise known as
"450" (MHz.). To pass the Technician Class examination, at least 26
multiple choice questions from a 35 question written examination must be
answered correctly.

There are a total of 384 possible questions in the pool from which these
35 questions are drawn. All questions in the various question banks are
known and widely published. There are no secret questions. The
Technician Class is the most popular license with about one-third of all
radioamateurs holding this license class. You will find Technician
study materials here and here.

Dee D. Flint wrote:
"Frank K3EKO" wrote in message
news:uqKhb.724221$YN5.646872@sccrnsc01...

Dee D. Flint wrote:


And after restructuring. Since I am teaching a class, I have read the
current FCC rules and the current ARRL "Now You're Talking."

Technicians

who pass a 5wpm code test get the old Tech+/Novice HF privileges.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI


This arguement is pointless. You can't talk to a brick wall. I'm done
here.

73

Frank K3EKO


Paragraph 97.301(e) clearly lists the HF privileges for any Technician who
has passed the 5wpm code test.

So the brick wall is you and you have yet to state where you get your source
of information. It certainly is not the FCC rules.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

This is from the W5YI website.

http://www.w5yi.org/AmRadio.htm#TECHNICIAN

TECHNICIAN

Almost all radioamateurs begin their ham career as a "Tech." The
privileges of a Technician Class operator license include operating
stations while transmitting on channels in any of 17 frequency bands
above 50 MHz with up to 1,500 watts power. It also allows access to
the two most popular ham bands, 2 meters and 70 cm ...otherwise known as
"450" (MHz.). To pass the Technician Class examination, at least 26
multiple choice questions from a 35 question written examination must be
answered correctly.

There are a total of 384 possible questions in the pool from which these
35 questions are drawn. All questions in the various question banks are
known and widely published. There are no secret questions. The
Technician Class is the most popular license with about one-third of all
radioamateurs holding this license class. You will find Technician
study materials here and here.

Frank K3EKO wrote:
Dee D. Flint wrote:

"Frank K3EKO" wrote in message
news:uqKhb.724221$YN5.646872@sccrnsc01...

Dee D. Flint wrote:


And after restructuring. Since I am teaching a class, I have read the
current FCC rules and the current ARRL "Now You're Talking."


Technicians

who pass a 5wpm code test get the old Tech+/Novice HF privileges.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI


This arguement is pointless. You can't talk to a brick wall. I'm done
here.

73

Frank K3EKO



Paragraph 97.301(e) clearly lists the HF privileges for any Technician
who
has passed the 5wpm code test.

So the brick wall is you and you have yet to state where you get your
source
of information. It certainly is not the FCC rules.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

This is from the W5YI website.

http://www.w5yi.org/AmRadio.htm#TECHNICIAN

TECHNICIAN

Almost all radioamateurs begin their ham career as a "Tech." The
privileges of a Technician Class operator license include operating
stations while transmitting on channels in any of 17 frequency bands
above 50 MHz with up to 1,500 watts power. It also allows access to
the two most popular ham bands, 2 meters and 70 cm ...otherwise known as
"450" (MHz.). To pass the Technician Class examination, at least 26
multiple choice questions from a 35 question written examination must be
answered correctly.

There are a total of 384 possible questions in the pool from which these
35 questions are drawn. All questions in the various question banks are
known and widely published. There are no secret questions. The
Technician Class is the most popular license with about one-third of all
radioamateurs holding this license class. You will find Technician
study materials here and here.

TECH PLUS
The next step used to be called the "Technician Plus" class. This level
was eliminated as a separate operator class on April 15, 2000 -- but not
the privileges. A Technician Class operator who passes the 5
words-per-minute Morse code (Element 1) exam still gets CW (telegraphy)
and 10-meter voice privileges in four long distance short-wave bands in
the HF range (3-30 MHz), the same as the Tech Plus operator did
previously but they do not get issued another license. Their
authorization to operate on four CW bands below 30 MHz is conferred by
the Certificate of Successful Completion of Examination (CSCE) issued by
the VE (examining) team.

And like the Novice and Advanced Class, operators who held a Tech Plus
license on April 15, 2000 may modify their license (change their
address, call sign or name) indefinitely. Their new modified Tech Plus
license will still show the Tech Plus Class when it arrives.

But (unlike Novice and Advanced Class operators) Tech Plus licensees who
renew their licenses will be issued a Technician Class license. Again,
it still authorizes HF privileges just as the Tech Plus license did
previously. Their authorization to operate on four CW bands below 30
MHz and 10-meter voice segment is conferred by the (1.) Certificate of
Successful Completion of Examination (CSCE) previously issued by the VE
(examining) team or (2.) a previous copy of your Tech Plus license.

Frank K3EKO wrote:
Dee D. Flint wrote:

"Frank K3EKO" wrote in message
news:uqKhb.724221$YN5.646872@sccrnsc01...

Dee D. Flint wrote:


And after restructuring. Since I am teaching a class, I have read the
current FCC rules and the current ARRL "Now You're Talking."


Technicians

who pass a 5wpm code test get the old Tech+/Novice HF privileges.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI


This arguement is pointless. You can't talk to a brick wall. I'm done
here.

73

Frank K3EKO



Paragraph 97.301(e) clearly lists the HF privileges for any Technician
who
has passed the 5wpm code test.

So the brick wall is you and you have yet to state where you get your
source
of information. It certainly is not the FCC rules.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

This is from the W5YI website.

http://www.w5yi.org/AmRadio.htm#TECHNICIAN

TECHNICIAN

Almost all radioamateurs begin their ham career as a "Tech." The
privileges of a Technician Class operator license include operating
stations while transmitting on channels in any of 17 frequency bands
above 50 MHz with up to 1,500 watts power. It also allows access to
the two most popular ham bands, 2 meters and 70 cm ...otherwise known as
"450" (MHz.). To pass the Technician Class examination, at least 26
multiple choice questions from a 35 question written examination must be
answered correctly.

There are a total of 384 possible questions in the pool from which these
35 questions are drawn. All questions in the various question banks are
known and widely published. There are no secret questions. The
Technician Class is the most popular license with about one-third of all
radioamateurs holding this license class. You will find Technician
study materials here and here.

TECH PLUS
The next step used to be called the "Technician Plus" class. This level
was eliminated as a separate operator class on April 15, 2000 -- but not
the privileges. A Technician Class operator who passes the 5
words-per-minute Morse code (Element 1) exam still gets CW (telegraphy)
and 10-meter voice privileges in four long distance short-wave bands in
the HF range (3-30 MHz), the same as the Tech Plus operator did
previously but they do not get issued another license. Their
authorization to operate on four CW bands below 30 MHz is conferred by
the Certificate of Successful Completion of Examination (CSCE) issued by
the VE (examining) team.

And like the Novice and Advanced Class, operators who held a Tech Plus
license on April 15, 2000 may modify their license (change their
address, call sign or name) indefinitely. Their new modified Tech Plus
license will still show the Tech Plus Class when it arrives.

But (unlike Novice and Advanced Class operators) Tech Plus licensees who
renew their licenses will be issued a Technician Class license. Again,
it still authorizes HF privileges just as the Tech Plus license did
previously. Their authorization to operate on four CW bands below 30
MHz and 10-meter voice segment is conferred by the (1.) Certificate of
Successful Completion of Examination (CSCE) previously issued by the VE
(examining) team or (2.) a previous copy of your Tech Plus license.

Frank K3EKO wrote:
Frank K3EKO wrote:

Dee D. Flint wrote:

"Frank K3EKO" wrote in message
news:uqKhb.724221$YN5.646872@sccrnsc01...

Dee D. Flint wrote:


And after restructuring. Since I am teaching a class, I have read the
current FCC rules and the current ARRL "Now You're Talking."



Technicians

who pass a 5wpm code test get the old Tech+/Novice HF privileges.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI


This arguement is pointless. You can't talk to a brick wall. I'm done
here.

73

Frank K3EKO




Paragraph 97.301(e) clearly lists the HF privileges for any
Technician who
has passed the 5wpm code test.

So the brick wall is you and you have yet to state where you get your
source
of information. It certainly is not the FCC rules.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

This is from the W5YI website.

http://www.w5yi.org/AmRadio.htm#TECHNICIAN

TECHNICIAN

Almost all radioamateurs begin their ham career as a "Tech." The
privileges of a Technician Class operator license include operating
stations while transmitting on channels in any of 17 frequency bands
above 50 MHz with up to 1,500 watts power. It also allows access to
the two most popular ham bands, 2 meters and 70 cm ...otherwise known
as "450" (MHz.). To pass the Technician Class examination, at least
26 multiple choice questions from a 35 question written examination
must be answered correctly.

There are a total of 384 possible questions in the pool from which
these 35 questions are drawn. All questions in the various question
banks are known and widely published. There are no secret questions.
The Technician Class is the most popular license with about one-third
of all radioamateurs holding this license class. You will find
Technician study materials here and here.

TECH PLUS
The next step used to be called the "Technician Plus" class. This level
was eliminated as a separate operator class on April 15, 2000 -- but not
the privileges. A Technician Class operator who passes the 5
words-per-minute Morse code (Element 1) exam still gets CW (telegraphy)
and 10-meter voice privileges in four long distance short-wave bands in
the HF range (3-30 MHz), the same as the Tech Plus operator did
previously but they do not get issued another license. Their
authorization to operate on four CW bands below 30 MHz is conferred by
the Certificate of Successful Completion of Examination (CSCE) issued by
the VE (examining) team.

And like the Novice and Advanced Class, operators who held a Tech Plus
license on April 15, 2000 may modify their license (change their
address, call sign or name) indefinitely. Their new modified Tech Plus
license will still show the Tech Plus Class when it arrives.

But (unlike Novice and Advanced Class operators) Tech Plus licensees who
renew their licenses will be issued a Technician Class license. Again,
it still authorizes HF privileges just as the Tech Plus license did
previously. Their authorization to operate on four CW bands below 30
MHz and 10-meter voice segment is conferred by the (1.) Certificate of
Successful Completion of Examination (CSCE) previously issued by the VE
(examining) team or (2.) a previous copy of your Tech Plus license.




Ok! now how about the radio part of my original question??????