Your desperation to score points has blinded you.....

WRONG! It was a reference to a pendulum, and not to a balance wheel; I
am considering the manufacture of a Regulator.

You may find that the concept of master oscillators in clocks
to be "a leap beyond" the credible, but that's an OU degree (6
'O' Levels at best) and an M3/CB licence for you.

Brian Reay wrote in message
...
"make a master oscillator for the shack". Well that could be a construed
as
referring to the 'balance wheel' in a clock (or watch) escapment but only
by
a leap beyond the credible.

Your desperation to score points has blinded you.....

WRONG! The ageing problem when NOT using pallet
stones is wear on the pallets themselves, a problem in the
two clocks that I have restored recently. The NEGATIVE NERDS
who seem to be my cataloguers will tell you what they were.

Hence it is better to use pallet stones than not at all, and so
my query for a source of them.

WRONG! Your comments relating to loss of accuracy are
WRONG in your assumption because I am considerng the
use of a gravity escapement.

Brian Reay wrote in message
...
"own crystals in order to reduce ageing" The "crystals" used in the
pallet
of an escapement are using usually synthethtic ruby and, while the
changing
of their profile can contribute to a loss of accuracy, the 'ageing
problem'
is wear on the escape wheel and, while this is related to the 'cut' of the
pallet stones, other aspects of the system accuracy determine the various
profiles in this area (in particular the need for the escape lever to
provide the impetus to the 'balance' wheel).

Your desperation to score points has blinded you.....

You are certainly the equal of the other CBers in the NEGATIVE
NERDS.....childish, sneering, and consistently technically in error.

You sneered recently at my technical proposal to address the
deficiencies in the offered explanations for sampling in DSP
systems, "Big K", but when I challenged you, you
were quite unable to debate the point.....ever had
an M3/CB licence or an OU degree?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


Brian Reay wrote in message
...
No you were just trying to start another thread where you didn't
understand the topic. Having realised your error you are now trying to
divert the thread- as it happens into an area where your knowledge seems
equally challenged.

Your desperation to score points has blinded you.....

WRONG! once again. The mechanism is NOT on the balance wheel, 'cos
there won't be one, and neither will there be a balance spring - a little
knowledge is dangerous, and the combination of an OU degree
(6 'O' levels at best) and M3/CB licence show your knowledge
and understanding up for what they are worth.

Do all your pronouncements result from 5 minutes on the Web?

The temperature compensation I am considering is John "Longitude"
Harrison's Grid Iron.

Tempatrimmer? All part of the joke, but I doubt that your apparent
emotional imbalance demonstrated by your sneering tirade gives
you any scope to recognise humour.

Brian Reay wrote in message
...
"I am considering the use of bi-metals." The escape mechanism in a clock
(or
watch) is often temperature compensated but the mechanism is either on
the
"balance" wheel (the radius is changed to vary the angular momentum) or
the
balance spring (the tension being varied). Neither of these align with
the
mechanism of a tempratrimmer.

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
Was intended for alt.horology, a reference to pallet stones.

A most unconvincing attempt to cover up a major faux pas.

Your original post said:

"I wish to make a master oscillator for the shack, and am considering
cutting my own crystals in order to reduce ageing. Is there a source
of raw material?

Also, for temperature compensation, I am considering the use of bi-metals.
(I've never seen one, but what is the mechanism used in Oxley's
Tempatrimmer?)"


Let us examine this a little:

"make a master oscillator for the shack". Well that could be a construed as
referring to the 'balance wheel' in a clock (or watch) escapment but only by
a leap beyond the credible.

"own crystals in order to reduce ageing" The "crystals" used in the pallet
of an escapement are using usually synthethtic ruby and, while the changing
of their profile can contribute to a loss of accuracy, the 'ageing problem'
is wear on the escape wheel and, while this is related to the 'cut' of the
pallet stones, other aspects of the system accuracy determine the various
profiles in this area (in particular the need for the escape lever to
provide the impetus to the 'balance' wheel).

"I am considering the use of bi-metals." The escape mechanism in a clock (or
watch) is often temperature compensated but the mechanism is either on the
"balance" wheel (the radius is changed to vary the angular momentum) or the
balance spring (the tension being varied). Neither of these align with the
mechanism of a tempratrimmer.

As regards accuracy, the limits for a certified chronometer are -0 +5s per
day, if memory serves me correctly. There are far more practical ways to
achieve better than this without resorting to cutting pallet stones.

No Gareth, you were just trying to start another thread where you didn't
understand the topic. Having realised your error you are now trying to
divert the thread- as it happens into an area where your knowledge seems
equally challenged.

Was intended for alt.horology, a reference to pallet stones.

Reg Edwards wrote in message
...
am considering
cutting my own crystals in order to reduce ageing.
Ahhhh, you've unearthed the philosopher's stone.
Any left-over scraps to spare for me?
I'm in great need and will collect.
Are you in the Call Book?

am considering
cutting my own crystals in order to reduce ageing.

============================

Ahhhh, you've unearthed the philosopher's stone.
Any left-over scraps to spare for me?
I'm in great need and will collect.
Are you in the Call Book?

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
I wish to make a master oscillator for the shack, and am considering
cutting my own crystals in order to reduce ageing. Is there a source
of raw material?

Also, for temperature compensation, I am considering the use of bi-metals.
(I've never seen one, but what is the mechanism used in Oxley's
Tempatrimmer?)



DAMN! I thought you were going to say throat/wrists, and was going to reply
that in your case it is an excellent idea.

Not you've gone and spoiled all my fun

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:14:40 +0100, "A Veteran Has Lung"
wrote:

DAMN! I thought you were going to say throat/wrists, and was going to reply
that in your case it is an excellent idea.

Not you've gone and spoiled all my fun

now now.
whilst you may not enjoy the same opinions as Airy or anyone
else for that matter...who expresses their opinion through
various uses of the english language....

wishing them dead or worse is not cricket ol' boy.

"class_a_zpk_12wpm"
.uk.net wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:14:40 +0100, "A Veteran Has Lung"
wrote:

DAMN! I thought you were going to say throat/wrists, and was going to
reply
that in your case it is an excellent idea.

Not you've gone and spoiled all my fun

now now.
whilst you may not enjoy the same opinions as Airy or anyone
else for that matter...who expresses their opinion through
various uses of the english language....

wishing them dead or worse is not cricket ol' boy.

Who said anything about dead my good man, purely suffering in silence would
suffice...