"Aaron Lake" wrote in message
...
(Rich S.) wrote:

I am trying to help a friend track down an old acquaintance. He can't
remember the fellow's name, but he remembers being in the his shack
and hearing him call CQ from "Willy Able Four John Tere Marie, slant 4
Charlottesville".

From 1973 Callbook:
WA4JTM (C) Tom Carey 102 Essex Dr Ormond Beach FL 32074

Thank you, Aaron. The information has been forwarded to my friend Dave in
Richmond and the name clicked in his memory. He now has a place to start
looking for his old mentor.

Steve, CainineDCeye, was also kind enough to send me the info - Thanks to
him as well.

73
Rich
November Seven Francis Xavier Rodriguez
)

WOW! neat variation on my call...

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"Rich S." wrote in message
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"Aaron Lake" wrote in message
...
(Rich S.) wrote:

I am trying to help a friend track down ...
"Willy Able Four John Tere Marie, slant 4
Charlottesville".

From 1973 Callbook:
WA4JTM (C) Tom Carey 102 Essex Dr Ormond Beach FL 32074

Thank you, Aaron. The information has been forwarded to my friend Dave in
Richmond and the name clicked in his memory. He now has a place to start
looking for his old mentor.

Steve, CainineDCeye, was also kind enough to send me the info - Thanks to
him as well.

73
Rich
November Seven Francis Xavier Rodriguez
)

"Rich S." wrote:

"Aaron Lake" wrote in message
.. .
(Rich S.) wrote:

I am trying to help a friend track down an old acquaintance. He can't
remember the fellow's name, but he remembers being in the his shack
and hearing him call CQ from "Willy Able Four John Tere Marie, slant 4
Charlottesville".

From 1973 Callbook:
WA4JTM (C) Tom Carey 102 Essex Dr Ormond Beach FL 32074

Thank you, Aaron. The information has been forwarded to my friend Dave in
Richmond and the name clicked in his memory. He now has a place to start
looking for his old mentor.

You're welcome. After reading other posts here I rechecked the 1973 listing.
While I copied the zip correctly, I flubbed on the name. It should be Tim, not
Tom. Sorry about that. It's amazing how much smaller that font has gotten since
I got that book. BTW I went ahead and checked my 1984 call book and the
call had disappeared. I also checked my oldest 'searchable' database (Sams 1994)
for the name 'Tim Carey' and WA4JTM and nothing there either. It seems Tim left
the ham scene. One can only speculate. Maybe a silent key, or inactivity? And of
course your friend might have gotten the phonetics wrong. I can't remember ever
hearing a ham using "Tere" or "Marie" before. Let us know how your friend makes
out and if he has any other guesses, or clues, I'd be happy to try again.

"Aaron Lake" wrote in message
...

You're welcome. After reading other posts here I rechecked the 1973
listing.
While I copied the zip correctly, I flubbed on the name. It should be Tim,
not
Tom. Sorry about that. It's amazing how much smaller that font has gotten
since
I got that book. BTW I went ahead and checked my 1984 call book and
the
call had disappeared. I also checked my oldest 'searchable' database (Sams
1994)
for the name 'Tim Carey' and WA4JTM and nothing there either. It seems Tim
left
the ham scene. One can only speculate. Maybe a silent key, or inactivity?
And of
course your friend might have gotten the phonetics wrong. I can't remember
ever
hearing a ham using "Tere" or "Marie" before. Let us know how your friend
makes
out and if he has any other guesses, or clues, I'd be happy to try again.

Aaron..........

Dave verified that Tim Carey is indeed the person he remembers. As soon as I
wrote the name to him, he remembered.

I remember a lot of the different phonetics used and "Tare" (Dave spelled it
Tere and I just copied what he wrote) was common for "T". "Nan" "November"
or "Nectar" for "N" and I seem to remember "Marie" or "Mary" for "M".

'Course, I learned my Morse code when Truman was pres.

Rich

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 13:26:07 -0700, "Rich S."
wrote:

I remember a lot of the different phonetics used and "Tare" (Dave spelled it
Tere and I just copied what he wrote) was common for "T". "Nan" "November"
or "Nectar" for "N" and I seem to remember "Marie" or "Mary" for "M".

'Course, I learned my Morse code when Truman was pres.

Interestingly, one of the messages from this newsgroup that I have
archived is about phonetic alphabets. You probably learned this one:

Pre-1954 U.S. Navy Radio Alphabet:

(Communications Handbook, 1945)

Able Baker Charlie Dog Easy Fox George How Item Jig King
Love Mike Nan Oboe Peter Queen Roger Sugar Tare Uncle Victor
William X-ray Yoke Zebra

I cut-and-pasted this from the original post.

When I retired from the FAA in 1997 after 30 years, there were still
occasions when I'd hear a couple of those (not counting the ones like
Victor and X-Ray that are also on the ICAO list).

- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Hi all, and greetings from Austria

"LRod" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
| On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 13:26:07 -0700, "Rich S."
| wrote:
|
| I remember a lot of the different phonetics used and "Tare" (Dave spelled
it
| Tere and I just copied what he wrote) was common for "T". "Nan"
"November"
| or "Nectar" for "N" and I seem to remember "Marie" or "Mary" for "M".
|
| 'Course, I learned my Morse code when Truman was pres.
|
| Interestingly, one of the messages from this newsgroup that I have
| archived is about phonetic alphabets. You probably learned this one:
|
| Pre-1954 U.S. Navy Radio Alphabet:
|
| (Communications Handbook, 1945)
|
| Able Baker Charlie Dog Easy Fox George How Item Jig King
| Love Mike Nan Oboe Peter Queen Roger Sugar Tare Uncle Victor
| William X-ray Yoke Zebra

This might have been the same "spirit" which drove the other poster out of
the bed and to the window, to see the meteor, got me to read this thread.

Tonight, I watched a TV-documentation of the preparation for D-Day through
BBC TV. They showed a map of the Normandy, actually a plan for the landing,
where all of the different sectors like omaha, sword and utah, were
subdivided for with the same phonetics, I just remember oboe, peter, queen
.......

|
| I cut-and-pasted this from the original post.
|
| When I retired from the FAA in 1997 after 30 years, there were still
| occasions when I'd hear a couple of those (not counting the ones like
| Victor and X-Ray that are also on the ICAO list).
|
| - -
| LRod
|
| Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
|
| Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
|
| http://www.woodbutcher.net

73 de OE8SOQ, a late night NG reader (local time 02:53 am)

From URL: http://www.bckelk.uklinux.net/phon.full.html


Pre-1954 U.S. Navy Radio Alphabet: (Communications Handbook, 1945)

Able Baker Charlie Dog Easy Fox George How Item Jig King
Love Mike Nan Oboe Peter Queen Roger Sugar Tare Uncle Victor
William X-ray Yoke Zebra


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I remember a lot of the different phonetics used and "Tare" (Dave spelled
it
Tere and I just copied what he wrote) was common for "T". "Nan" "November"
or "Nectar" for "N" and I seem to remember "Marie" or "Mary" for "M".

'Course, I learned my Morse code when Truman was pres.

Rich

"Rich S." wrote:

I remember a lot of the different phonetics used and "Tare"

Yes, Tare for "T" seems to ring a bell. "Tere" threw me as I read it as 'tear'.

"Nan" "November"

Yep remember these being used too.

or "Nectar" for "N"

Nectar? Maybe a CB crossover??

and I seem to remember "Marie" or "Mary" for "M".

Well Mary was the correct one anyway.

'Course, I learned my Morse code

That's one of the nice things about Morse, no Phonetics...

when Truman was pres.

Well the closest to Truman I can come is my 1947 Callbook. It would have been
'John Thomas Mary' using that books ARRL list. That was only slightly different
from 'John Tom Mary' in the "Western Union Key Words" phonetics for amateurs in
my 1934 Callbook. However in the 1973 Callbook the "ARRL adopted International
Civil Aviation Organization" phonetics list had changed things completely to
'Juliet Tango Mike'. So what the hey, maybe we can get Nectar in officially
someday.

FYI Phonetic Tare

Main Entry: 2tare
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Old Italian tara, from
Arabic tarha, literally, that which is removed
1 : a deduction from the gross weight of a substance and its container made
in allowance for the weight of the container; also : the weight of the
container


And as I sed

From URL: http://www.bckelk.uklinux.net/phon.full.html


Pre-1954 U.S. Navy Radio Alphabet: (Communications Handbook, 1945)

Able Baker Charlie Dog Easy Fox George How Item Jig King
Love Mike Nan Oboe Peter Queen Roger Sugar Tare Uncle Victor
William X-ray Yoke Zebra

Also from the same website:
German army handbook 90/91: Alfa Foxtrott Juliett.
Italian version: Alfa Charly FoxTrot Giuliet Romio Wiskey.
An Indonesian phrase book: Beta Ultra Volvo Whisky X-ray.
A precursor of the present alphabet (1952?) had: Alfa Coca
Metro Nectar Siera Union Whisky Extra]



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"right on"

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"Aaron Lake" wrote in message
...
"Rich S." wrote:

I remember a lot of the different phonetics used and "Tare"

Yes, Tare for "T" seems to ring a bell. "Tere" threw me as I read it as
'tear'.

"Nan" "November"

Yep remember these being used too.

or "Nectar" for "N"

Nectar? Maybe a CB crossover??

and I seem to remember "Marie" or "Mary" for "M".

Well Mary was the correct one anyway.

'Course, I learned my Morse code

That's one of the nice things about Morse, no Phonetics...

when Truman was pres.

Well the closest to Truman I can come is my 1947 Callbook. It would have
been
'John Thomas Mary' using that books ARRL list. That was only slightly
different
from 'John Tom Mary' in the "Western Union Key Words" phonetics for
amateurs in
my 1934 Callbook. However in the 1973 Callbook the "ARRL adopted
International
Civil Aviation Organization" phonetics list had changed things completely
to
'Juliet Tango Mike'. So what the hey, maybe we can get Nectar in
officially
someday.

"Keyboard In The Noise" wrote in message
news:Oaawc.39467$oi5.27584@fed1read07...

A precursor of the present alphabet (1952?) had: Alfa Coca
Metro Nectar Siera Union Whisky Extra

That's the one my Dad used on his aircraft radio in his Cessna 120 back in
1952 or so. The aircraft registration number was 1927 Nectar.

Rich
N7FXR