On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 20:03:10 GMT, Roger
wrote:

David wrote:
Roger wrote:

Well, David recommended I look at the Sangean PT-80 ProTravel, so I
assume his comment about me needing psychotherapy is because I did
not take his recommendation.

David (and others), how does the PT-80 compare to the Degen/Kaito
1103 with respect to MW and SW reception performance?

I save quite a chunk of change going with the 1103, plus the 1103
is a little smaller and lighter. Also, my research indicates the
1103's performance in several important categories appears to be
better than the PT-80. To me, it seems like a no-brainer.

What do you plan on listening to after Cheney detonates his bomb?
Anything left on the air will most likely be disinformation.

Er, ok.

Anyway, I'm considering using the Degen as my daily listener, and
relegating the DX-399 to storage. So I am interested in the here and
now ("pre-Cheney bomb".)

So, let's get back on track and compare. Let's compare the relative
sensitivity (MW-SW), and audio quality using earbuds between the
following "ultra" portable models:

Sangean PT-80
Sangean ATS-606 (essentially same as Radio Shack DX-399)
Degen/Kaito 1103
Sony ICF-SW7600GR
Sony ICF-SW100

(Of course, there's a great variation in price, and in features. The
ATS-606/DX-399 does not have SSB, which to me is not important, but to
others is important. When I bought my DX-399, I paid ~$35, so it was a
no-brainer to get -- I should have bought two.)

I'm sure a couple others could be added to the above list, but they
should not be any larger than the largest already there.

Roger

I'm not a big fan of Sony. They break.

I have an ATS-606A (it has 1 KHz fine tuning). I enjoy it. The PT-80
intrigues me.

David wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 19:19:28 GMT, Roger
wrote:

David wrote:
Roger wrote:

Now, as I look things over, I'm getting more and more intrigued
with purchasing a Degen/Kaito 1103 portable.

So, where can I find this model at the lowest price? Also, should I
stick with a Kaito (for the American market), or can I consider a
Degen? (I heard the walwart with the Degen is not for U.S.
voltages.)

I think your money would be better spent on some psychotherapy.

*laugh*

Well, David recommended I look at the Sangean PT-80 ProTravel, so I
assume his comment about me needing psychotherapy is because I did not
take his recommendation.

David (and others), how does the PT-80 compare to the Degen/Kaito 1103
with respect to MW and SW reception performance?

I save quite a chunk of change going with the 1103, plus the 1103 is
a little smaller and lighter. Also, my research indicates the 1103's
performance in several important categories appears to be better than
the PT-80. To me, it seems like a no-brainer.

Comments?

Thanks.

Roger

What do you plan on listening to after Cheney detonates his bomb?
Anything left on the air will most likely be disinformation.


Will everything everywhere be wiped out by the bomb? Will all
transmitters be wiped out? I figure that Europe will be spared, and thus
I can listen to the BBC. EMP covers a narrowly defined area. You can't
get it to cover whole continents unless you send it REALLY high up in
the atmosphere. The only rogue state with ICBMs is North Korea, and if
Kim would launch anything, he'd launch an actual bomb instead of an EMP
device. Of course, the USA could send up an EMP device over Iraq, but
they already have ways to counter cell phone triggered IEDs (now the
insurgents run wires).

wrote:


David wrote:


What do you plan on listening to after Cheney detonates his bomb?
Anything left on the air will most likely be disinformation.


Broadcsats of Miss Nude Islam, with our host Osama from the Iranian
Capital ??


Isn't "Miss Nude Islam" an oxymoron? In fact, isn't the beauty pageant
considered to be against Islam? In fact, we'd probably have Dialing For
Jihad, an imam will say a prayer to help your car bombing be successful,
and will read appropriate verses from the Quran. All for 499 riyals.
We'd have game shows like Tribal Feud, people try to guess what Muhammad
actually said (And the Prophet Says...) with the winners killing the
losers. We'd have Jerry Springer like shows: My Wife Shows Her Ankles In
Public! The host would give the husband a scimitar to behead his whorish
wife with, then the audience would attack each other. Ah, the brave new
world of the universal Islamic caliphate!

Roger wrote:

David wrote:
Roger wrote:

Well, David recommended I look at the Sangean PT-80 ProTravel, so I
assume his comment about me needing psychotherapy is because I did
not take his recommendation.

David (and others), how does the PT-80 compare to the Degen/Kaito
1103 with respect to MW and SW reception performance?

I save quite a chunk of change going with the 1103, plus the 1103
is a little smaller and lighter. Also, my research indicates the
1103's performance in several important categories appears to be
better than the PT-80. To me, it seems like a no-brainer.

What do you plan on listening to after Cheney detonates his bomb?
Anything left on the air will most likely be disinformation.

Er, ok.

Anyway, I'm considering using the Degen as my daily listener, and
relegating the DX-399 to storage. So I am interested in the here and
now ("pre-Cheney bomb".)

So, let's get back on track and compare. Let's compare the relative
sensitivity (MW-SW), and audio quality using earbuds between the
following "ultra" portable models:

Sangean PT-80
Sangean ATS-606 (essentially same as Radio Shack DX-399)
Degen/Kaito 1103
Sony ICF-SW7600GR
Sony ICF-SW100

(Of course, there's a great variation in price, and in features. The
ATS-606/DX-399 does not have SSB, which to me is not important, but to
others is important. When I bought my DX-399, I paid ~$35, so it was a
no-brainer to get -- I should have bought two.)

I'm sure a couple others could be added to the above list, but they
should not be any larger than the largest already there.

Roger


Well, you won't find as good of a deal as Radio Shack had. The PT-80 is
cheap and is a better clock than a radio, according to Passport. If you
like the 606, get another one, but you won't get it for anywhere near
$35. If you want a Degen (either the 1103 or the sister rx the 1102)
then you can find new ones for $50 on Ebay. If you want a Sony, you'll
pay through the nose ($150 for the 7600-IF you can find one). When there
are better, cheaper portables out there, why bother? Bottom line: if you
want an identical twin to what you've got, buy the Sangean. If price is
a concern, buy the Degen. Oh, and ignore David, he's a weirdo.

running dogg wrote:
Roger wrote:

Anyway, I'm considering using the Degen as my daily listener, and
relegating the DX-399 to storage. So I am interested in the here
and now ("pre-Cheney bomb".)

So, let's get back on track and compare. Let's compare the relative
sensitivity (MW-SW), and audio quality using earbuds between the
following "ultra" portable models:

Sangean PT-80
Sangean ATS-606 (essentially same as Radio Shack DX-399)
Degen/Kaito 1103
Sony ICF-SW7600GR
Sony ICF-SW100

(Of course, there's a great variation in price, and in features. The
ATS-606/DX-399 does not have SSB, which to me is not important, but to
others is important. When I bought my DX-399, I paid ~$35, so it was a
no-brainer to get -- I should have bought two.)

Well, you won't find as good of a deal as Radio Shack had. The PT-80
is cheap and is a better clock than a radio, according to Passport.
If you like the 606, get another one, but you won't get it for
anywhere near $35. If you want a Degen (either the 1103 or the
sister rx the 1102) then you can find new ones for $50 on Ebay. If
you want a Sony, you'll pay through the nose ($150 for the 7600-IF
you can find one). When there are better, cheaper portables out
there, why bother? Bottom line: if you want an identical twin to
what you've got, buy the Sangean. If price is a concern, buy the
Degen. Oh, and ignore David, he's a weirdo.

Well, price is a consideration, but so is performance.

When it comes to receiver performance (sensitivity/selectivity/etc.)
how does the Degen/Kaito 1103 compare with the Sangean ATS-606?

From what I've read, the 1103 is a better performer in this regard. It
is supposedly at least as good in audio quality (to earbuds.) And
throw in SSB to boot.

The one downside to the 1103 compared to the 606 is that it is
slightly larger in size and weight (but not much.)

Anyone here done a side-by-side comparison between the 1103 and 606
(or the equivalent RS DX-399) with respect to MW-SW reception?


And where can I get a Degen 1103 for $50? I checked on eBay, but
haven't found a seller yet at this price. The best price I've found
for any 1103 is $89 (and a Kaito which is for the American market.)

Anyone?

Roger

Roger wrote:

running dogg wrote:
Roger wrote:

Anyway, I'm considering using the Degen as my daily listener, and
relegating the DX-399 to storage. So I am interested in the here
and now ("pre-Cheney bomb".)

So, let's get back on track and compare. Let's compare the relative
sensitivity (MW-SW), and audio quality using earbuds between the
following "ultra" portable models:

Sangean PT-80
Sangean ATS-606 (essentially same as Radio Shack DX-399)
Degen/Kaito 1103
Sony ICF-SW7600GR
Sony ICF-SW100

(Of course, there's a great variation in price, and in features. The
ATS-606/DX-399 does not have SSB, which to me is not important, but to
others is important. When I bought my DX-399, I paid ~$35, so it was a
no-brainer to get -- I should have bought two.)

Well, you won't find as good of a deal as Radio Shack had. The PT-80
is cheap and is a better clock than a radio, according to Passport.
If you like the 606, get another one, but you won't get it for
anywhere near $35. If you want a Degen (either the 1103 or the
sister rx the 1102) then you can find new ones for $50 on Ebay. If
you want a Sony, you'll pay through the nose ($150 for the 7600-IF
you can find one). When there are better, cheaper portables out
there, why bother? Bottom line: if you want an identical twin to
what you've got, buy the Sangean. If price is a concern, buy the
Degen. Oh, and ignore David, he's a weirdo.

Well, price is a consideration, but so is performance.

When it comes to receiver performance (sensitivity/selectivity/etc.)
how does the Degen/Kaito 1103 compare with the Sangean ATS-606?

From what I've read, the 1103 is a better performer in this regard. It
is supposedly at least as good in audio quality (to earbuds.) And
throw in SSB to boot.

The one downside to the 1103 compared to the 606 is that it is
slightly larger in size and weight (but not much.)

Anyone here done a side-by-side comparison between the 1103 and 606
(or the equivalent RS DX-399) with respect to MW-SW reception?


And where can I get a Degen 1103 for $50? I checked on eBay, but
haven't found a seller yet at this price. The best price I've found
for any 1103 is $89 (and a Kaito which is for the American market.)

Try an ebay seller named Liypn, his store is V Com Collections. His
radios are labeled Degen and are for the Chinese market (but mostly
labeled in English) and run around $45 or so. He doesn't use the name
Degen at all in his posts, just the model "1103". Search for "1103" or
some other radios he carries like "Tecsun" (called Grundig or Eton in
the US) and some ads from him should pop up. Whenever I need to find his
site I search for "Tecsun" and then look in the results for V Com
Collections (be careful not to click the wrong store-two or three show
up). I don't have either radio, so I can't give you a side by side test.
Ask someone who has 100 radios (there are several here) for an opinion.

"Roger" wrote in message ...

And where can I get a Degen 1103 for $50? I checked on eBay, but
haven't found a seller yet at this price. The best price I've found
for any 1103 is $89 (and a Kaito which is for the American market.)

Anyone?

Roger


http://stores.ebay.com/RADIO-AND-COMPONENT

http://stores.ebay.com/V-COM-COLLECTIONS

The 1103 beats all other SW portables price to performance wise.

"Roger" wrote in message
...

Anyone here done a side-by-side comparison between the 1103 and 606
(or the equivalent RS DX-399) with respect to MW-SW reception?

Yes. The 1103 wins in sensitivity and sound over the 606. MW reception on
the 1103 is excellent too.

And where can I get a Degen 1103 for $50? I checked on eBay, but
haven't found a seller yet at this price. The best price I've found
for any 1103 is $89 (and a Kaito which is for the American market.)

Look for Liypn on eBay. His eBay store is called V-COMM COLLECTIONS.

Jackie

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 19:31:02 -0800, running dogg wrote:

Roger wrote:


a concern, buy the Degen. Oh, and ignore David, he's a weirdo.

We are a nation of weirdos. The USA was started by weirdos Europe
didn't want any more. Lots of long haired pot farmers as I recall.

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 19:11:00 -0800, running dogg wrote:


Will everything everywhere be wiped out by the bomb? Will all
transmitters be wiped out? I figure that Europe will be spared, and thus
I can listen to the BBC. EMP covers a narrowly defined area. You can't
get it to cover whole continents unless you send it REALLY high up in
the atmosphere. The only rogue state with ICBMs is North Korea, and if
Kim would launch anything, he'd launch an actual bomb instead of an EMP
device. Of course, the USA could send up an EMP device over Iraq, but
they already have ways to counter cell phone triggered IEDs (now the
insurgents run wires).


It's absurd to think that you'll have time to relax by the fire while
your generator humms along keeping your minute steaks frozen after
such an event.

This threat of war is fake. The pigs want to scare you into
submission. Bin Laden works for Bush (or vice versa).