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Take a look at Analog Devices' line of DDS chips. Pretty much a one-chip
(needs ucontroller to drive it) digital solution to turn your 10MHz clock into virtually any frequency below 5 MHz (in theory; below 4MHz in easy practicality). The AD9834 only consumes 20mw at 3.3 VDC. There are many other devices in the product line. Many have built-in comparators to produce square-wave output. Joe W3JDR "Mike W" wrote in message ... I have a need to produce an accurate 4Mhz 50% dutycycle TTL squarewave to use as a timebase. I have a 10Mhz IQD frequency standard of suitable accuracy. How can I divide this to produce the 50% duty cycle 4Mhz signal?. Is it even possible with logic alone?. I can see how to mix with either 6Mhz or 14Mhz, but this then detracts from the required accuracy. atb Mikw |
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"W3JDR" wrote in message ... Take a look at Analog Devices' line of DDS chips. Pretty much a one-chip (needs ucontroller to drive it) digital solution to turn your 10MHz clock into virtually any frequency below 5 MHz (in theory; below 4MHz in easy practicality). The AD9834 only consumes 20mw at 3.3 VDC. There are many other devices in the product line. Many have built-in comparators to produce square-wave output. Joe W3JDR Joe, I'd gladly use the Analog Devices DDS chips if they offered them in something other than a SadoMasochistic Device (SMD) package. It's a darn shame they can't make a limited run (say 10k) of some of these chips in a PDIP package for hams and other r.f. experimenters. If they put the AD9835 in a PDIP and sold it for about $10.00 (the TSSOP packaged version sells for about $6, I think) , I'd buy a dozen for various projects, but in the tiny SMD package they're nothing but useless to me. I'm new to the newsgroup and am sure that this is not the first gripe about SMD's, but I refuse to use them - not because I can't (at least not yet), but because I don't want to endure the angst. -- Chip KC5UES real E-mail Address: -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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If they put the AD9835 in a PDIP and sold it for about $10.00 (the TSSOP
packaged version sells for about $6, I think) , I'd buy a dozen for various projects, but in the tiny SMD package they're nothing but useless to me. I'm new to the newsgroup and am sure that this is not the first gripe about SMD's, but I refuse to use them - not because I can't (at least not yet), but because I don't want to endure the angst. Sounds like a good opportunity for an enterprising ham - fab up a bunch of adapter boards (or buy 'em premade - I think Ares has something like this), solder down the SMD parts, and sell the resulting PDIP-compatible boards to interested homebrewers. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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Chip,
I totally agree with you about the difficulty in handling fine-pitch SMD parts. It's a sign of the times. FYI, check out the DDS Daughterboard at www.njqrp.org. This is a DDS application board kit with on-board clock oscillator (you could run it from an external oscillator if you wish). There's also a link to a service that will solder your DDS chip to your bare board for $6 in single quantities. Joe W3JDR "ChipS" wrote in message ... "W3JDR" wrote in message ... Take a look at Analog Devices' line of DDS chips. Pretty much a one-chip (needs ucontroller to drive it) digital solution to turn your 10MHz clock into virtually any frequency below 5 MHz (in theory; below 4MHz in easy practicality). The AD9834 only consumes 20mw at 3.3 VDC. There are many other devices in the product line. Many have built-in comparators to produce square-wave output. Joe W3JDR Joe, I'd gladly use the Analog Devices DDS chips if they offered them in something other than a SadoMasochistic Device (SMD) package. It's a darn shame they can't make a limited run (say 10k) of some of these chips in a PDIP package for hams and other r.f. experimenters. If they put the AD9835 in a PDIP and sold it for about $10.00 (the TSSOP packaged version sells for about $6, I think) , I'd buy a dozen for various projects, but in the tiny SMD package they're nothing but useless to me. I'm new to the newsgroup and am sure that this is not the first gripe about SMD's, but I refuse to use them - not because I can't (at least not yet), but because I don't want to endure the angst. -- Chip KC5UES real E-mail Address: -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:39:26 GMT, "W3JDR" wrote:
FYI, I have bought two of the DDS Daughter boards from http://www.njqrp.org/ and used a standard Weller soldering iron to build it, with the exception of the SM DDS chip, installed by KitBuilders.. email Excellent results, both from KitBuilders and the finished product. For $19 for the kit and $6 for installing the chip I now have a 1Hz resolution signal source.. Thanks George ( njqrp ) and Mike ( wa6ouw ) |
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my apologies, I appear to have cut the text from W3JDR in its
totality. What I ascribed to Joe was in fact all my own work ;-( sorry Joe.. On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 23:47:11 GMT, (Mike W) wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:39:26 GMT, "W3JDR" wrote: FYI, I have bought two of the DDS Daughter boards from http://www.njqrp.org/ and used a standard Weller soldering iron to build it, with the exception of the SM DDS chip, installed by KitBuilders.. email Excellent results, both from KitBuilders and the finished product. For $19 for the kit and $6 for installing the chip I now have a 1Hz resolution signal source.. Thanks George ( njqrp ) and Mike ( wa6ouw ) |
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my apologies, I appear to have cut the text from W3JDR in its
totality. What I ascribed to Joe was in fact all my own work ;-( sorry Joe.. On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 23:47:11 GMT, (Mike W) wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:39:26 GMT, "W3JDR" wrote: FYI, I have bought two of the DDS Daughter boards from http://www.njqrp.org/ and used a standard Weller soldering iron to build it, with the exception of the SM DDS chip, installed by KitBuilders.. email Excellent results, both from KitBuilders and the finished product. For $19 for the kit and $6 for installing the chip I now have a 1Hz resolution signal source.. Thanks George ( njqrp ) and Mike ( wa6ouw ) |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:39:26 GMT, "W3JDR" wrote:
FYI, I have bought two of the DDS Daughter boards from http://www.njqrp.org/ and used a standard Weller soldering iron to build it, with the exception of the SM DDS chip, installed by KitBuilders.. email Excellent results, both from KitBuilders and the finished product. For $19 for the kit and $6 for installing the chip I now have a 1Hz resolution signal source.. Thanks George ( njqrp ) and Mike ( wa6ouw ) |
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"ChipS" wrote in message ... "W3JDR" wrote in message ... Take a look at Analog Devices' line of DDS chips. Pretty much a one-chip (needs ucontroller to drive it) digital solution to turn your 10MHz clock into virtually any frequency below 5 MHz (in theory; below 4MHz in easy practicality). The AD9834 only consumes 20mw at 3.3 VDC. There are many other devices in the product line. Many have built-in comparators to produce square-wave output. Joe W3JDR Joe, I'd gladly use the Analog Devices DDS chips if they offered them in something other than a SadoMasochistic Device (SMD) package. It's a darn shame they can't make a limited run (say 10k) of some of these chips in a PDIP package for hams and other r.f. experimenters. If they put the AD9835 in a PDIP and sold it for about $10.00 (the TSSOP packaged version sells for about $6, I think) , I'd buy a dozen for various projects, but in the tiny SMD package they're nothing but useless to me. I'm new to the newsgroup and am sure that this is not the first gripe about SMD's, but I refuse to use them - not because I can't (at least not yet), but because I don't want to endure the angst. -- Chip KC5UES real E-mail Address: -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- In the case of RF devices like DDS's and high-performance microprocessors (you think 1GHz isn't RF?) the surface mount package significantly enhances performance. I haven't found them to be that bad to work with; you just need good eyes and a steady hand. -------------------------------------- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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Yes Tim, I agree. Unfortunately, the physics of RF favors "small" and
"compact". This is the price we pay for such high performance. It's not yet to the point where it's a 'show stopper' for experimenters, but you have to be increasingly resourceful and persistent. Many have dropped out of hombrewing at a time when the possibilities are most exciting, merely because they can't or won't adapt to the new packaging technologies and the need to learn a little about firmware programming in order to make the new generation of parts work. It's not that they "can't" learn, it's mostly that they "won't" learn. Joe W3JDR In the case of RF devices like DDS's and high-performance microprocessors (you think 1GHz isn't RF?) the surface mount package significantly enhances performance. I haven't found them to be that bad to work with; you just need good eyes and a steady hand. -------------------------------------- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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