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Old August 16th 04, 10:49 AM
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bviel wrote in message
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Use a direction coupler for forward and reverse measurement.
Use a 2 Chan. Scope great bandwith not nessesary, it is the amplitude that
is to be measured.
reflection coefficient = Vreflected/Vincident = polar magn. and angle
Chris Bowick Book page 104, reflection coefficient may be plotted directly
in the Smith Chart, and the corresponding impedance read off the chart.
Or did I missed something?


"Joe Rocci" schreef in bericht
news:T0eSc.4297$Kv2.4186@trndny09...
Steve,
A decent (not the dollar store variety) CATV splitter has directivity of
about 30 dB from 5Mhz to over 500 MHZ. I think this would do the job.

Joe
W3JDR


Steve Nosko wrote in message
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"Paul Burridge" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 01:53:44 GMT, "Joe Rocci"

wrote:

Here's an idea that's just whacky enough that it might work...has

anyone
tried it?

If you have a dual-trace scope with enough bandwidth, you might be

able
use
Lissajous patterns. The idea would be to drive the complex load

through
a
directional coupler with fairly good directivity. A sample of the
incident
signal would go into the scope X input and a sample of the

reflected
signal
would go into the Y input. With a pure reactance as a calibration

load,
adjust the X and Y scope gain for a perfect circle on the display.
Replace
the test load with a complex load, and the magnitude and

inclination
of
the
line/oval display can tell you amplitude and phase of the reflected
signal,
from which any other metric can be calculated.

Nice idea, Joe! If it could only be made to work, you'd be a genius.
--


OK Actually, this looks good as long as you have a directional

coupler
for
the frequency of interest! Paul didn't say. (SWR Bridge, actual

bridge,
for lower frequencies) You'll also have to allow for the difference

in
location of the two samples by adjusting the line lengths to the two

scope
probes intil they are both at the same "distance" from the load.

Judging
phase shift from a circle can't be as good as simply looking at the

two
waveforms. The scope horiz gain can be adjusted for some nice number

of
divisions for each half cycle, say 9...
I've got a 100MHz. dual trace storage scope, but any directional
couplers around here only will be down to 130 Mhz at best... I do

also
have
a good bridge for down to 5 MHz., (also about 1 meter worth of stretch
line...so it is possible as long as the power level is within the

bridge
capability.
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Steve N, K,9;d, c. i My email has no u's.










 
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