Paul Burridge wrote:
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 11:42:11 +0000, Scott
wrote:

Huh? It's only 5:30AM here and I just got up but, the ONLY time you
aren't consuming power is at the zero crossing of the voltage and
current sine waves (assuming a purely resistive load where I and E
are in phase). Since you are paying for power, which is P=I X E,
during the negative half cycle, you have, for example, -168 Volts X
-1 Amp = +168 Watts...try it on a calculator...negative times a
negative is positive.

Thanks, Scott. So you're basically agreeing with me. I owe the power
co. for the positive cycles they send me; they owe *me* for the
negative ones. Since they are equal and opposite, they cancel each
other out. Overall, then, zero billing justified.
We are being conned!!!

Polarity is no more than direction of flow. They send you electrons on
one lead, then electrons on the other lead, making twice the number of
electrons, so you gvetting them for 1/2 price as they only count them
the once:-)

Kevin Aylward

http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.

Was anybody keeping count of the number of postings to this thread BEFORE it
became personal and acrimonious?
Seems like some posters lack the necessary sense of humour? They seem to
hate anythingthey say be challenged?
Then, as a reaction they descend in childish name calling and attempts at
derision. Shame!

Sticking to the subject. "Why electricity (for our antique radios of course)
is/is not free". Well, hmm! The tube heaters use full wave, but what about
those pulses of one way rectified half wave AC for the B+? (Primarily in
non transformer radios!). Intended pun; non power transformer radios don't
have a primary! :-)

Personally I'd like to 'rectify'? my high electricity cost!
Our consumption is recorded by a 60 cycle analog AC meter on the outside of
my house, which is owned by the power company and read and billed monthly.
Maybe I could get those positive half cycles and then not 'return' the
negative ones, as someone has already suggested, and reduce electricity
consumption that way? Joking of course :-) What good would half cycles be to
respectable AC operated equipment?

So anybody got any other 'practical' ideas, in addition to burning my non
electric wood stove during the winter, to reducing my electrical heating
cost?

Our domestic electricity presently costs about 9 cents Canadian per kilowatt
hour. That's roughly 7 cents US and roughly 4 UK New Pence, per
unit/kilowatt hour. This part of Canada is a pretty small and somewhat
widespread market. I believe that in Ontario in central Canada, a much
larger population and population density, it is, or has been, due to
political pressure following a botched attempt to privatize the electrical
system? substantially less than that at around 5 cents; even though much of
the energy is generated, by hydro power, in Labrador in this particular part
of Canada!

Thinking about it.

Terry wrote:
Was anybody keeping count of the number of postings to this thread
BEFORE it became personal and acrimonious?
Seems like some posters lack the necessary sense of humour? They seem
to hate anythingthey say be challenged?
Then, as a reaction they descend in childish name calling and
attempts at derision. Shame!

Sticking to the subject. "Why electricity (for our antique radios of
course) is/is not free". Well, hmm! The tube heaters use full wave,
but what about those pulses of one way rectified half wave AC for the
B+? (Primarily in non transformer radios!). Intended pun; non power
transformer radios don't have a primary! :-)

Personally I'd like to 'rectify'? my high electricity cost!
Our consumption is recorded by a 60 cycle analog AC meter on the
outside of my house, which is owned by the power company and read and
billed monthly. Maybe I could get those positive half cycles and then
not 'return' the negative ones, as someone has already suggested, and
reduce electricity consumption that way? Joking of course :-) What
good would half cycles be to respectable AC operated equipment?

So anybody got any other 'practical' ideas, in addition to burning my
non electric wood stove during the winter, to reducing my electrical
heating cost?

Our domestic electricity presently costs about 9 cents Canadian per
kilowatt hour. That's roughly 7 cents US and roughly 4 UK New Pence,
per unit/kilowatt hour.

Which means running ones 1MW anti-gravity machine only costs a trivial
$70 per hour. Cheap at twice the price.

Kevin Aylward

http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 18:15:39 +0000, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Terry wrote:
Was anybody keeping count of the number of postings to this thread
BEFORE it became personal and acrimonious?
Seems like some posters lack the necessary sense of humour? They seem
to hate anythingthey say be challenged?
Then, as a reaction they descend in childish name calling and
attempts at derision. Shame!

Sticking to the subject. "Why electricity (for our antique radios of
course) is/is not free". Well, hmm! The tube heaters use full wave,
but what about those pulses of one way rectified half wave AC for the
B+? (Primarily in non transformer radios!). Intended pun; non power
transformer radios don't have a primary! :-)

Personally I'd like to 'rectify'? my high electricity cost!
Our consumption is recorded by a 60 cycle analog AC meter on the
outside of my house, which is owned by the power company and read and
billed monthly. Maybe I could get those positive half cycles and then
not 'return' the negative ones, as someone has already suggested, and
reduce electricity consumption that way? Joking of course :-) What
good would half cycles be to respectable AC operated equipment?

So anybody got any other 'practical' ideas, in addition to burning my
non electric wood stove during the winter, to reducing my electrical
heating cost?

Our domestic electricity presently costs about 9 cents Canadian per
kilowatt hour. That's roughly 7 cents US and roughly 4 UK New Pence,
per unit/kilowatt hour.

Which means running ones 1MW anti-gravity machine only costs a trivial
$70 per hour. Cheap at twice the price.

I don't know where you buy your antigravity machines, but that's way out
of line. Whadday lifting, the Great Pyramids?

;-)
Rich