Brenda Ann wrote:

What's irritating is that when the FCC takes you down they'll probably
rewrite Part 15 to be even more restrictive than it is. In that case,
NOBODY wins.


You have no proof of that, your just assuming and that don't mean ****,
the fact is Part 15 has over the years beocme very relaxed instead of
be restricted

That's for sure.. look at what they have done to Part 15 to allow for BPL...
that's worse than any 50 pirates.

No argument. But remember: the BPL crowd has the Electronic Industries
Association and quite a few cubic yards of money behind it. Part 15
experimenters don't have nearly that kind of clout. With the FCC,
money talks and BS walks. They could very easily rewrite Part 15 to
prohibit any kind of experimentation not specifically authorized by the
FCC, meaning, pay big bucks for a special authorization. It's the
little guys like us who will take it in the shorts like always.

wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:

What's irritating is that when the FCC takes you down they'll probably
rewrite Part 15 to be even more restrictive than it is. In that case,
NOBODY wins.


You have no proof of that, your just assuming and that don't mean ****,
the fact is Part 15 has over the years beocme very relaxed instead of
be restricted

That's for sure.. look at what they have done to Part 15 to allow for BPL...
that's worse than any 50 pirates.

No argument. But remember: the BPL crowd has the Electronic Industries
Association and quite a few cubic yards of money behind it. Part 15
experimenters don't have nearly that kind of clout. With the FCC,
money talks and BS walks. They could very easily rewrite Part 15 to
prohibit any kind of experimentation not specifically authorized by the
FCC, meaning, pay big bucks for a special authorization. It's the
little guys like us who will take it in the shorts like always.

No that's what they have Part 5 for. Part 5 is a experimental license
for experimenting. read the rules.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/w...7cfrv1_05.html

BTW an Experimental License isn't that much, I believe it's around $55
dollars, hell anyone can afford that!

Part 15 wasn't really in reality designed for experimenting or
broadcasting it was designed to regulated unwanted fields.

Here's some interesting read

ftp://ftp.fcc.gov/pub/Bureaus/Mass_M...tion/74-87.pdf


Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONE RADIO
13.556.00 MHz LSB

N9OGL wrote:
Part 15 wasn't really in reality designed for experimenting or
broadcasting it was designed to regulated unwanted fields.

Unwanted fields? Sounds like they had Omega One in mind when they
wrote the regulations.

N9OGL wrote:

No that's what they have Part 5 for. Part 5 is a experimental license
for experimenting. read the rules.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/w...7cfrv1_05.html

BTW an Experimental License isn't that much, I believe it's around $55
dollars, hell anyone can afford that!

Part 15 wasn't really in reality designed for experimenting or
broadcasting it was designed to regulated unwanted fields.

You didn't get the point (but, then, you rarely do). What I meant was
that they could easily rewrite Part 15 or any other rule to restrict
experimenting even further. We don't want that.

You bring up a good question, though. If it's so cheap and easy to get
an experimental license, why didn't you get one for your operation on
13.556 MHz? Then this entire discussion would be moot.

wrote:
N9OGL wrote:

No that's what they have Part 5 for. Part 5 is a experimental license
for experimenting. read the rules.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/w...7cfrv1_05.html

BTW an Experimental License isn't that much, I believe it's around $55
dollars, hell anyone can afford that!

Part 15 wasn't really in reality designed for experimenting or
broadcasting it was designed to regulated unwanted fields.

You didn't get the point (but, then, you rarely do). What I meant was
that they could easily rewrite Part 15 or any other rule to restrict
experimenting even further. We don't want that.

no dumbass YOU don't get the point Part 15 wasn't designed for
experimenting, it was designed for unwanted field emissions like what a
computer radiates off, or off type accepted transmitter. Cordless
phones and BPL are two other thing govern by Part 15 but if you read
ALL of part 15 that is what part 15 is for. If you want to experiment
get an experimental license. Don't come on here and claim "oh, he's
breaking the law, now the FCC is going to tighten the rules governing
part 15, in reality they are NOT going to change the rules because one
person breaks the rules.You seem to lack understanding on that and I'm
not going to debate it with someone who has no understanding of it.
Because I'll tell you what a number of people has broken Part 15 over
the years and has been busted by the FCC (see Dugan V FCC, Dugan was
running a pirate radio station on the FM broadcast band and was busted
by the FCC who claimed he was in violation of Part 15, the US Court of
Appeal up held it) Did the FCC change the rule after Dugan or any other
pirate on the FM band after the FCC busted them for violating Part 15??
Answer NO, the rule has remained the same before and after all those
pirates has been busted. Your claim that the FCC will tighten the rules
because I might be violating Part 15 doesn't hold water. I suggest
before you get on here and claim something that you better do some
deep research into the matter.


You bring up a good question, though. If it's so cheap and easy to get
an experimental license, why didn't you get one for your operation on
13.556 MHz? Then this entire discussion would be moot.

Because you can't get an experimental license for Broadcasting, many
people has tried.


Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONE RADIO
13.556.00 MHz LSB

On 15 Sep 2006 10:46:19 -0700, N9OGL wrote:
From: "N9OGL"
Subject: Do you think they will revoke N9OGL's ham license or just fine his ass.
Date: 15 Sep 2006 10:46:19 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 54
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.124.136.231

That IP address belongs to illinois.net, an organization which lists its
purpose as follows:

"The Illinois Century Network (ICN) is a telecommunications backbone
providing high speed access to data, video, and audio communication in
schools and libraries, at colleges and universities, to public libraries
and museums, and for local government and state agencies."

Just like Wiseman, you have to go somewhere else (Charleston) to post.
Did your friend kick you off his CTI connection at 12.156.121.130 or did
CTI?

Lloyd Daugherty wrote:
On 15 Sep 2006 10:46:19 -0700, N9OGL wrote:
From: "N9OGL"
Subject: Do you think they will revoke N9OGL's ham license or just fine his ass.
Date: 15 Sep 2006 10:46:19 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 54
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.124.136.231

That IP address belongs to illinois.net, an organization which lists its
purpose as follows:

"The Illinois Century Network (ICN) is a telecommunications backbone
providing high speed access to data, video, and audio communication in
schools and libraries, at colleges and universities, to public libraries
and museums, and for local government and state agencies."

Just like Wiseman, you have to go somewhere else (Charleston) to post.
Did your friend kick you off his CTI connection at 12.156.121.130 or did
CTI?

No, he's gone for the week....went down to missouri. He wouldn't be
back till next Saturday. plus the library is a lot closer to my house
then he is.

Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONE RADIO
13.556.00 LSB

and linking though other otwwn is hardly uncommon in centrel ILL when
I lived in Illioispolis the IP madelook like I was mdiway way between
deactur and Charasleton


I am not familiar with, nor have I heard of the locations Mark mentioned, so
I did a Google map search of "deactur and Charasleton" and found nothing.
Now I'm wondering where "Illioispolis" may be? It is somewhere in Mark's
clouded mind, but who knows where?

Lloyd Daugherty wrote:
Just like Wiseman, you have to go somewhere else (Charleston) to post.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA Llardass ****s up again!

wrote in
ups.com:


N9OGL wrote:

No that's what they have Part 5 for. Part 5 is a experimental license
for experimenting. read the rules.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/w...7cfrv1_05.html

BTW an Experimental License isn't that much, I believe it's around $55
dollars, hell anyone can afford that!

Part 15 wasn't really in reality designed for experimenting or
broadcasting it was designed to regulated unwanted fields.

You didn't get the point (but, then, you rarely do). What I meant was
that they could easily rewrite Part 15 or any other rule to restrict
experimenting even further. We don't want that.

You bring up a good question, though. If it's so cheap and easy to get
an experimental license, why didn't you get one for your operation on
13.556 MHz? Then this entire discussion would be moot.



Todd will never get a waiver because the FCC doesn't consider granting a
waiver with the single purpose of playing ****ty songs over and over
experimental.

Now, if Todd would show Omega One was a radio experiment to see how many
people he could make puke listening to the radio, he'd have that waiver.

SC