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There has been utter silence in news.groups and in news.groups.proposals
with respect to any new, moderated group in the rec.radio hierarchy. As
the month of January unfolds, will that continue to be the case?

If so, Mark Morgan and his mindless minions of moronity will have won.
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 12:12:55 -0500, wrote:

as to winning I have won already I was not seleinced by you and your
friends


I'm sorry, but I have this mental image of you standing on a heap of
garbage at the local landfill with arms outstreached and saying, "This
is all mine." Bwahahahahahaha! 'Cause that's all you've got Mark - a
garbage heap.

On the other hand, when I want serious discussion of amateur radio
matters, I go to a place where you're not allowed -
http://www.qrz.com.

Soy yer nora, Mark; soy yer nora. You were kicked off qrz.com for a
very good reason. Back into my twit filters you go.

*plonk*
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Lloyd Schleck wrote:
There has been utter silence in news.groups and in
news.groups.proposals with respect to any new, moderated group in the
rec.radio hierarchy. As the month of January unfolds, will that
continue to be the case?


It's titled rec.radio.amateur.moderated and I have been asked to be
one of the moderators. Please be patient.
73, Jeff KH6O
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"Jeffrey Herman" wrote in message
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Lloyd Schleck wrote:
There has been utter silence in news.groups and in
news.groups.proposals with respect to any new, moderated group in the
rec.radio hierarchy. As the month of January unfolds, will that
continue to be the case?


It's titled rec.radio.amateur.moderated and I have been asked to be
one of the moderators. Please be patient.
73, Jeff KH6O
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In all honesty? I don't forsee your moderated group going far. What
"moderated" means to many of us is that the group is censored. Censoring a
group, and allowing or not allowing comments at the whim or mood of an
administrator is hardly appealing.
Paul may find it appealing, as you apparently do, too.
Good luck on your proposed little fifedom. Who, besides you and Paul, will
wear the gold-encrusted crown bearing the lofty title of Moderator Supreme?
Which of you will use the golden sword of self-appointism to slash unwelcome
comments?
And where does censorship, once begun, stop? Since there is to be no
oversight, you and The Royal Court will have no checks and balances.

My prediction is that your moderated group will initially attract a few
like-minded Hams, but will ultimately suffer from disinterest and boredom
and fade into oblivion within a year at most.

dit dit dit dah.....









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James D. wrote:
My prediction is that your moderated group will initially attract a few
like-minded Hams, but will ultimately suffer from disinterest and boredom
and fade into oblivion within a year at most.


The qrz.com groups, including the Q&A group, is moderated.
They have been pretty successful. There are presently 108
topics in the Q&A section many with 30+ replies.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com


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Cecil Moore wrote:
James D. wrote:
My prediction is that your moderated group will initially attract a few
like-minded Hams, but will ultimately suffer from disinterest and boredom
and fade into oblivion within a year at most.


The qrz.com groups, including the Q&A group, is moderated.
They have been pretty successful. There are presently 108
topics in the Q&A section many with 30+ replies.


Cecil:

I gave you subtle!!!

Don't infringe on my satire!

chuckle
Regards,
JS
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Cecil Moore ) writes:
James D. wrote:
My prediction is that your moderated group will initially attract a few
like-minded Hams, but will ultimately suffer from disinterest and boredom
and fade into oblivion within a year at most.


The qrz.com groups, including the Q&A group, is moderated.
They have been pretty successful. There are presently 108
topics in the Q&A section many with 30+ replies.


I won't go near moderated newsgroups, but on the other hand, it's hardly
"censorship" when they are created in response to all kinds of junk
in a newsgroup that is there because people have no sense of self-control.

There is ultimately a big difference between saying what you want to say,
and saying what you want to say even if it has no relevance to the topic
at hand. It's the latter that have damaged this newsgroup (with overflow
to some of the other newsgroups).

I would point out that while I basically try to tune it out, it would
seem there are attempts at "censorship" here, in the spews by a few
people who just think by repeated postings attacking other posters they
can get their way.

People who don't like others imposing rules have to accept some
responsibility in helping to ensure that any space is still a valid
space.

Michael VE2BVW

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"Michael Black" wrote:

I would point out that while I basically try to tune it out, it would
seem there are attempts at "censorship" here, in the spews by a few
people who just think by repeated postings attacking other posters they
can get their way.


Putting most of the nitwits in your killfile accomplishes the same thing,
and when you do this, this newsgroup is amazingly quiet.

Gentlemen can agree to disagree without the personal attacks and
name-calling. Unfortunately, the hate that has rotted the minds of a few
tends to carry forth into public forums.


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KH6HZ wrote:
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Gentlemen can agree to disagree without the personal attacks and
name-calling. Unfortunately, the hate that has rotted the minds of a few
tends to carry forth into public forums.



Interesting. Debate and argument is the spice of life. It is necessary
in our gov't, business and homes--just to keep things running!

While often we tend to think it is desirable to live in the world
without difference of opinions and ideas, such a world quickly becomes
dusty, moldy, brittle and unsatisfying.

Probably the most important function(s) colleges teach are all centered
around argument and debate.

Filth and perversion can always be "moderated out" without loss of
relevant info and dialog.

Using moderation to halt debate and argument is just a "Morons Filter."

And, off topic? A bit keeps it interesting ... if faced with too
much--that IS what the killfile is for ...

Regards,
JS
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"KH6HZ" wrote in message
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"Michael Black" wrote:

I would point out that while I basically try to tune it out, it would
seem there are attempts at "censorship" here, in the spews by a few
people who just think by repeated postings attacking other posters they
can get their way.


Putting most of the nitwits in your killfile accomplishes the same thing,
and when you do this, this newsgroup is amazingly quiet.

Gentlemen can agree to disagree without the personal attacks and
name-calling. Unfortunately, the hate that has rotted the minds of a few
tends to carry forth into public forums.


Well said!

As one who got carried away on occasion in the past (and has repented and
changed), I would urge folks to clean up this newsgroup.

As pointed out above, putting the flamers in your killfile will clean it up
(as it appears to you, at least, and MAY result in them getting tired of the
lack of attention and going away. (remember the message a day or so ago
"Don't feed the troll." :-)

73,
Carl - wk3c


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