From: Dave Heil on Sat, 03 Feb
2007 19:32:42 GMT

wrote:
On Feb 2, 8:09?pm, wrote:
On Feb 2, 10:16?pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:

What does amateur radio not offer now that it once did?
One example: First on the scene with emergency
mobile communications.
In the 1950's, I was the fifth person to arrive
upon the scene of a severe auto accident and the
first one with mobile communications with which
to call for help.
Nowadays, the first four people would have cell
phones. Even if I were the first on the scene,
I would use my cell phone, not my mobile ham rig.
I've been in that situation too, Cecil, and a lot more recently than
the 1950s.

Oh? Was that when you served the country in your
"other ways?"

You are so intimate with Miccolis that you speak for him?

Miccolis, as usual, INFERRED something but never supplied
any details. Inference is NOT fact.

That fine example of the modern American amateur extra,
Steven James Robeson was doing that for years. Never
supplied ANY true, references of HIS involvement. That
is like another who INFERRED combat experience "in a
country at war," yet never supplied any references to
same.


I've never been very specific with you about my Vietnam service because
I've seen the kind of things you have done to others.

Bull****. Rhymes with bluffing. You never did much in
Vietnam therefore you don't have any details to supply.
You were never in combat against the Viet Cong and at
best, got into barracks brawls. It's the Robesin syndrome.
You are just a clone of Robesin.

I know exactly what I did in Japan, have even made available
a publicly-accessible photo essay on it...plus made a
publicly-available digital copy of what my Signal Battalion
produced a few years after I was returned to the States.
I am still in contact with both civilian and military
personnel who worked at the same signal facilities I did and
at the same time. That's not INFERRING anydamnthing.
It is history. It is FACT. It has been reviewed by people
that were there and no "faults" or "mistakes" were found.

I've done no
boasting about my service in Southeast Asia and have not gotten into
specifics.

You said you were "in a country at war." So were millions
of other military NON-combatants. You were a REMF.

I've never claimed any heroics nor have I described any
artillery barrages.

USAF enlisted personnel seldom trained for artillery
spotting and only commissioned officers were forward
observers for air strikes. I was given training as an
artillery spotter in addition to doing regular Signal Corps
duties. "Provisional Infantry Platoon" training in basic
fighting skills was standard practice in the US Army
during the 1950s, involving all those NOT in the "line"
outfits (infantry, artillery, armor).

How much military training has Miccolis received?

Answer: NONE. He's never even served his government
as a civilian. He wants to "lecture me" on how I
treat REAL military veterans? He thinks he is "better"
than those who served in the military. Maybe your
romance with him is going sour?

You are the individual who made the now famous sphincter post about what
it was like to undergo an artillery barrage, except that you were never
in an artillery barrage.

It is "famous" only in that you choose to highlight it. But,
you should have used the proper word - INFAMOUS.

Factual error, minus one point for Heil.

I was learning how to DIRECT artillery fall as an artillery
forward observer. Training. When one battery goofs and a
six rounds fall mistakenly within a couple hundred yards of
an observer team, one KNOWS what it must feel like to
enemies. That includes the cadre who were regular
artillerymen. They were definitely NOT happy with what
happened.

Another factual error of Heil's, now at two negative points.

That ties in nicely with your posts over a ten year period here.

You don't believe my PDF on Hal Hallikainen's website is
factual? Have you any proof that it is false? Can you
testify to that in a court of law? Or are you just testy?

I've stated in the beginning in here, and continuously
up to now that my purpose was the advocacy of elimination
of the code test for a license. No more, no less. You
and other bluffmanship extras kept inferring it was
otherwise. FCC 06-178 is a "go for launch." It WILL
HAPPEN. Code test go bye-bye. Very, very soon.

Big 5-point Bonus Factual Error on Heil's part, score now
at -7.

You rant about getting into amateur radio but you've
never gotten into amateur radio or even tried to do so.

"Rant?!?" :-) Ooooo! Ooooo!

BIG 25-POINT FACTUAL ERROR! [Heil now at -32!]

Tsk, tsk, tsk...WTF do you think my GETTING INTO big
time HF comms was? Three years worth of 24/7 comms,
long-haul stuff...*NO* "license" or morse code skill
required. Did you think a single test sitting for a
First Radiotelephone (Commercial) license was an easy
thing that one could just waltz through?!? In 1956.
90-mile train trip to Chicago (no snow, no hills, kept
shoes on during that March trip).

Riiiight...you consider a whole working career in
electronics (including "radio"), relying on a paycheck
for food and shelter to be a NOTHING compared to the
almighty high-rate-morse-tested amateur extra rank-
status-privilege you puff out your chest about? Wow,
all that from an EX-federally-employed State Department
"veteran" who got to be Mr. DX complete with living
accomodations. Riiiight...we real workers in the
electronics industry are all pikers in your pointy
little mind, couldn't possibly be as saintly as you
pensioners. To you the real Pros must seem less than
****, worse than river-bottom slime, right?

Sweaty, my 1951 high school yearbook has a mention of
"work done towards amateur radio." In real ink on
real paper. Wanna see? Wanna shove it up yer bum?
After the ignorance of adolescence I got into the REAL
world. Realized that AMATEUR radio was a HOBBY, not
the "profession" that so many want to imagine in their
own fantasies.

Now, a HOBBY is a fine thing. I am still fascinated
by "radio" (a subset of the larger, miraculous
technology of ELECTRONICS). I stay aware and informed
about as much as I can and, once in a while, do some
work for actual money! That limits what I've been doing
for a hobby for over a half century (the last 42 years in
my center-of-the-house workshop, rebuilt to that by me).
No sweat. It's all enjoyable.

Why do you think you are so double-damned "important"
that you can act so arrogant, bossy, and self-righteous
in here? Amateur radio is basically a HOBBY. "Radio"
technology is neither a secret to nor separate from
all other radio services in the USA. The FCC doesn't
restrict communications from ONLY amateurs about the
amateur radio service. It doesn't restrict ANY citizen
from commenting on ANY US civil radio service. Got
that, pale rider?

After 23 Feb 07 there will be NO requirements for
morse code skill to obtain ANY amateur radio license.
Yet you just can't get it, can you? Your years of
posturing and preening as the mighty macho morseman
"masters" are of NO value except to you and other
pale riders of the Four Morsemen of the Apolcalypse.


Do you have your finger on the pulse of amateur radio, Leonard?

No, only what the ARRL and a handful of other ham radio
websites show. The ARRL is, or very shortly will be,
in a crisis condition on memberships. They need the
members to sustain their proof-of-readership so that
they can sell ad space in QST to keep it alive. Their
large publication and re-sell business side of the
house is making all the cash that sustains their "free"
services for members.

If I want fairy stories all I need to do is tickle one
of the self-righteous, self-defined "experts in radio"
(morsemen all) to hear fairy stories about the "service
to the nation" of hamateur radio. Lord knows they want
to spout that **** often enough in here without
provocation.

If I want REAL information on US amateur radio, I can
go to dozens of friends and acquaintences, people I
KNOW, have worked with, are friends in-person, not the
pseudo-friendship of on-line-only familiarity. They
will level with me. YOU will NOT. You never have.

Of course you are! C'mon out with the "real reasons."

Gotta love all those code-tested knowitalls. :-)

One who has passed a Morse Code exam or an amateur radio written exam
has done one more thing than you've done.

Ooooo! Oooooo! I guess you think you "really told me"
dintcha? :-)

I've never gotten a Masters degree, never gotten a PhD,
never breast-fed an infant, never put on women's clothing,
never done a cylinder replacement on a car engine, never
cured cancer, never climbed Mt. Everest, never tried out
to be an astronaut, never flew an ultra-light, never
"pioneered the (radio) airwaves" in the 1930s, never did
hang-gliding, never ran a marathon, never stood watch
on 500 KHz as a coastie, never "slept with" a man, never
got divorced, never ran away from a good fight.

Wanna call me a "failure?!?" Wanna pick up those
teeth of yours littering the floor? :-)

You're still sitting on the
sidelines, telling us which play the coach *should* have sent in.

"Telling YOU something?" IMPOSSIBLE! Nobody can tell
YOU what you don't want to hear.

"Sidelines:" Attempt at a metaphor. A typical football
(American version) is a hundred yards long, narrow.
But, it is bordered by THE REST OF THE WORLD! 99+
percent of all the rest of the world ARE on the "sidelines!"

I live in the real world. Not some closed, private little
enclave of dreamers thinking They are some kind of
masters of radio. Little men. Pretenders at being
professional as amateurs. Oxymoronic. Brain damage
from lack of honest oxygen, turning into moronic mumblers
about "superiority."

Keep your mighty Rank-Status-Titles as long as you can.
It seems to be all you have...besides bigotry and
sociopathy rampant in your clan and sept. Little man.

FU,
LA