Mike Coslo, wrote in :
This may be hard to quantify, Jim, but is there any data or even educated guessing about how many Novices are still actually active? - Mike KB3EIA - Not hard to quantify at all. Any ham that only knows CW to 5 WPM is a novice. New hams these days are all Novices. So the number of Novices on the bands are actually increasing. Ten-Four Good buddy? |
"N2EY" wrote in message ... In article , Mike Coslo writes: N2EY wrote: These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: snip As of September 30, 2003: Novice - 33,034 (decrease of 16,295) snip This may be hard to quantify, Jim, but is there any data or even educated guessing about how many Novices are still actually active? Not that I know of, Mike. Let's look at how the three license classes that are closed to new entries have declined in numbers: Novice is now ~67% of where it was May 14, 2000 Advanced is now ~83% of where it was May 14, 2000 Tech Plus is now ~50% of where it was May 14, 2000 Of course the Tech Plus will decline the fastest because all Tech Pluses are being renewed as Techs. Or, alternatively, they are upgrading to General and Extra since they already have 5 wpm code credit. There's been a lot of that. (As an "old" techplus with full general written credit and 5 wpm credit, I simply had to take the extra written to upgrade all the way. I'm sure there were lots of similarly situated folks who also upgraded, either as a "paper upgrade", with no test, to general, of as I did by taking the extra written.) Carl - wk3c |
There's been a lot of that.
(As an "old" techplus with full general written credit and 5 wpm credit, I simply had to take the extra written to upgrade all the way. I'm sure there were lots of similarly situated folks who also upgraded, either as a "paper upgrade", with no test, to general, of as I did by taking the extra written.) Carl - wk3c Yea and it took you over a year to pass it, I guess it wasnt just the Code Test that kept you back. |
Blow Job wrote:
Nice troll handle. Not hard to quantify at all. Any ham that only knows CW to 5 WPM is a novice. New hams these days are all Novices. So the number of Novices on the bands are actually increasing. Ten-Four Good buddy? Well, how many CBers know 5WPM? Well, I have a "novice-extra" license. And if I admit that I have since forgotten my code, would that make me a CB-extra? :-) |
N2EY wrote:
Suppose the new Q&A pool really is the cause of this dropoff. Will we see folks arguing that the writtens are stifling growth, turning people away, etc.? Will we see a movement to reduce (again) the level of written testing, the number of licenses, etc.? I am inclined to say there will be a push to reduce requirements if that happens. At the moment, every issue seems to gravitate towards Morse CW requirement. This question needs revisited after the requirement is dropped, if it is dropped. And my opinion is no, we shouldn't reduce the requirements. - Mike KB3EIA - |
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Carl got a post-restructuring Extra
After a Year of failing it. Bruce got a post-restructuring Extra And $250.00 from from some Dumb Cbers Bruce makes fun of Carl's amateur license. Because Carls License isnt worth the pasper its printed on. Carl does not distinguish between "real hams" and others. ThaTs because Karl doesnt know the difference Bruce says a sizable percentage of amateurs are not "real hams". Just the New ones Carl is actively trying to defeat the threat of BPL. Thats a Joke Bruce doesn't give a damn about BPL. THATS TRUE |
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Since the entire public is completely aware of amateur radio, therefore they all are waiting for the code test to drop, then we should have huge growth eh??? (sarcasm mode off) Ryan KC8PMX If/when the code test disappears, what will be the scapegoat for low growth? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message t... N2EY wrote: Suppose the new Q&A pool really is the cause of this dropoff. Will we see folks arguing that the writtens are stifling growth, turning people away, etc.? Will we see a movement to reduce (again) the level of written testing, the number of licenses, etc.? I am inclined to say there will be a push to reduce requirements if that happens. At the moment, every issue seems to gravitate towards Morse CW requirement. This question needs revisited after the requirement is dropped, if it is dropped. And my opinion is no, we shouldn't reduce the requirements. - Mike KB3EIA - While I obviously support eliminating the Morse test, I do NOT support ANY lowering of the requirements on the written tests. (Felt I needed to state that again ...) The written tests can be made "better" (that does not necessarily mean "more difficult") by adjusting the question pools to reflect modern technology, RF/electrical safety, rules/regs, and operating practices. And, while there is a minimum ratio of questions in the pool to questions on the tests, there is no maximum number of questions that can be in the pool ... those who think (and I disagree) that the question pools are simply "memorized" can push the NCVECs to increase the number and diversity of questions in the pools. Carl - wk3c |
"WA8ULX" wrote in message ... Carl got a post-restructuring Extra After a Year of failing it. BZZZZZZZZT ... wrong answer ... took it EXACTLY ONCE. Not that I feel I owe Bruce (or anyone else, actually) an explaination, but just to set the record straight about how full of BS Bruce is ... I kept being busy with work, work travel, an elderly mother in poor health and any number of other "excuses" and didn't get around to going to a VE session until I did ... so what? I finally decided to set the goal of going and upgrading by a certain date. I went to a VE session on a Friday evening, run by one of the local ham clubs. The session never happened because the VE who kept the paperwork for the team had accidentally tossed all of the forms while "cleaning out" the file box where he kept the stuff. I came home, got on the internet, and found a session the next day (Sat morning, early) about 1-1/2 hour's drive from home, got up early, drove down, took the test (1st one finished), and walked out an Extra ... no sweat, no big deal. Bruce got a post-restructuring Extra And $250.00 from from some Dumb Cbers Bruce makes fun of Carl's amateur license. Because Carls License isnt worth the pasper its printed on. Maybe Bruce's license is printed on "pasper" ... mine is printed on paper (and laminated to protect it). Carl does not distinguish between "real hams" and others. ThaTs because Karl doesnt know the difference One wonders how long Bruce has been licensed and active? (I'm a member of QCWA ...) Bruce says a sizable percentage of amateurs are not "real hams". Just the New ones I'm not a new one ... and Bruce is, as normal for him, full of you-know-what. Carl is actively trying to defeat the threat of BPL. Thats a Joke No, it's a very serious matter. If Bruce had a clue he'd know that. Bruce doesn't give a damn about BPL. THATS TRUE That statement alone pretty well should give folks a good idea of how much credence to give to Bruce's opinions. Carl - wk3c |
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