Radio Amateur KC2HMZ wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 10:23:46 -0400, "Cool Breeze" spade#abc.com
wrote:


wrote in message
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Get ready for a wooshing sound, that will be the stampede of no codes
and outlaws flooding your hallowed ground, little man. You brought
it all on..

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Are you a Ham ??? What are you doing in this
NG??????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????
???? ????


To answer your queries in order:

1. Probably not.

2. Trolling.

73 DE John, KC2HMZ

Hey john, if you only knew the irony of what you posted.

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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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Good post, Jim

Which Jim?

I do agree with you about the antics of a few.

'Tis a shame indeed.

A few Yahoo groups have
started - at least one of them with the premise of no flames and everyone
is
welcome. I can't believe how rapidly it has grown (nor can I believe how
many new licenses have been obtained). Unbelievable what can be
accomplished when you get rid of the finger pointing (and the new folks,
both those without tickets and those who have just obtained them are
asking
questions about operating procedures, antennas, coax - all the kinds of
questions that so many other groups could cover if they just got past the
finger pointing and flames).

Agreed. I personally find that the following approach works pretty well. CB
QSO's on SSB generally have something in common with AR QSO's, "what kind of
gear are you running?" The minute I tell them I'm using a 40m dipole through
a tuner, I usually get one of two responses. "Are you an amateur?" usually
comes from those wha are also ARO's. "What's that and how does it work?"
comes from those who are genuinely interested. I'm all too happy to oblige
them. Funny thing is the 40m doublet actually shows a 1.4:1 SWR on 27.3850
MHz (Ch. 38) with the tuner offline, go figure.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

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73 de Bert
WA2SI

On 10 Aug 2003 00:51:07 GMT, wrote:

Radio Amateur KC2HMZ wrote:
On 09 Aug 2003 15:12:31 GMT, wrote:

I enjoy watching assholes like you and dan squirm.

Kinda like you when you take a code test, eh?

Dunno, never took it. Looks like cw is gonna be history,
just like your attitude toward no coders. Fate is a strange
animal, all you stuffy blowhards lose after-all.

Welcome to RRAP. Get a few years in the group and maybe you'll get to
know what my attitude toward no-coders IS. Right now, you obviously
have no clue as to what my opinion of code testing is, instead jumping
to a conclusion based on one sentence from just one of hundreds of
posts I've made in this NG over the years since I got my ham ticket.

What I *do* have an attitude about - and it's not a good one - is when
people hide behind posting anonymously, demonstrating that they don't
even take their *own* opinions seriously enough to attach a name and
call to what they post, then whine when nobody else takes their posts
seriously. Fit anybody you know?

You should of elmered the hobby, instead of ridiculing
any newbie who showed interest. Too late now.

Putting aside the fact that you're a borderline illiterate ("should
of" instead of "should have"? C'mon, I knew better than that before I
finished second grade...what year did you drop out?), I for one
wouldn't be very interested in elmering anybody who demonstrates
callous disregard for the regulations, like certain trolls in this NG
for example. Beyond that, I think my track record shows that you lack
sufficient knowledge of the truth on which to base an intelligent
opinion regarding my elmering activities, so instead, you posted a
singularly unintelligent one instead. You really shouldn't post when
you're smoking crack. :-)

(WA8ULX) wrote in
:

Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there
Free Handout Ham Licenses?


There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was
introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further
moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands.

11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's
certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I
might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now.

ARRL plan back fired on them. They worked to dumb things done in order
to produce more licensee's who might join the organization and fill the
corporate bank accounts, but instead, they got a bunch of idiots who
don't care bacause getting a license is easy now and when you don't have
to work to get the benefits, the benefits you get don't mean a whole lot.

All real hams out there who remember how the bands used to be, send the
ARRL a nasty-gram and cancel your League memberships. They screwed us
over big time by not protecting the integrity of the Amateur radio
Service.



No Code.... No Ham!

"No Code, No Ham" wrote:
(WA8ULX) wrote in
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Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there
Free Handout Ham Licenses?


There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was
introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further
moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands.

11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's
certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I
might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now.

-snippage-
Take that cross posted stink bait outta' here, chump.

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Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to
pay to get my no-code ticket. Now that Im a coded tech, I still say,
rid the code test. You may say it dumbs it down, to me it makes for
more conversation and more to converse with. Who wants to talk on a
piece of equipment that cost $1000 + but no-one to hear you? Why not
let these CB'rs get there license so they can learn the principals of
ham radio instead of bootlegging. I realise that you guys are all
stuck in 1950, but WAKE UP!!!!!! This is 2003!!!!! This reminds me,
Wasnt it quite a few years ago that a bunch of HAMS like yourselves
were complaining about solid-state over tube? Oh my god! There dumbing
down radio with RF transistors!!!! What is next!!!!! Quit whining and
get involved in making the radio better for all. All you pro-coders
are just wasting your breath. They still make tubes, but you have a
choice if you want to use tube or transistor equipment. Isnt that
nice, To have a choice? I chose to advance in my hobby by going to
Extra soon, and I dont need a code holding me back. Do you actually
think that the bad CB'rs are going to go get a license so they can JAM
and CUSS at you? NO!!! The good ones will! So where is the FREE at?

Cya, wouldnt want to be ya.

73
KF6FOZ


On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:44:19 -0000, "No Code, No Ham"
wrote:

(WA8ULX) wrote in
:

Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there
Free Handout Ham Licenses?


There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was
introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further
moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands.

11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's
certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I
might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now.

ARRL plan back fired on them. They worked to dumb things done in order
to produce more licensee's who might join the organization and fill the
corporate bank accounts, but instead, they got a bunch of idiots who
don't care bacause getting a license is easy now and when you don't have
to work to get the benefits, the benefits you get don't mean a whole lot.

All real hams out there who remember how the bands used to be, send the
ARRL a nasty-gram and cancel your League memberships. They screwed us
over big time by not protecting the integrity of the Amateur radio
Service.



No Code.... No Ham!

West Coast Radio wrote:
Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to
pay to get my no-code ticket.

You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test?

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wrote:
West Coast Radio wrote:
Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to
pay to get my no-code ticket.

You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test?

Heads up. This guy is your next extra class. dit dat..

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No, Mopar, the VEs charge. It used to be free at the FCC, but, for me at
least, that meant a 60 mile trip (120 miles round trip) to the FCC in
Buffalo, NY, and one minute of perfect copy at 20 words per minute. When I
had dropped my tickets and decided to retest in 1993, I believe it was under
$6.00 for the session. That was 20 words per minute, but multiple guess.
Now it is 5 words per minute, but the testing charge is considerably higher
(don't ask me, I don't know. I simply showed up for the tests in '93. You
don't have to score 100%). So, while someone may pay for the exam, that 120
mile round trip savings is worth something. Don't worry too much though. I
hear the FCC is going to try to package the licenses in boxes of Cracker
Jax.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

wrote in message
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wrote:
West Coast Radio wrote:
Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to
pay to get my no-code ticket.

You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test?

Heads up. This guy is your next extra class. dit dat..

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"Jim Hampton" wrote:
No, Mopar, the VEs charge. It used to be free at the FCC, but, for me at
least, that meant a 60 mile trip (120 miles round trip) to the FCC in
Buffalo, NY, and one minute of perfect copy at 20 words per minute. When
I had dropped my tickets and decided to retest in 1993, I believe it was
under $6.00 for the session. That was 20 words per minute, but multiple
guess. Now it is 5 words per minute, but the testing charge is
considerably higher (don't ask me, I don't know. I simply showed up for
the tests in '93. You don't have to score 100%). So, while someone may
pay for the exam, that 120 mile round trip savings is worth something.
Don't worry too much though. I hear the FCC is going to try to package
the licenses in boxes of Cracker Jax.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

wrote in message
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wrote:
West Coast Radio wrote:
Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had
to pay to get my no-code ticket.

You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test?

Heads up. This guy is your next extra class. dit dat..

They don't have me worried yet, Jim. Note to self: buy some
Cracker Jax stock.

Or they will come with the radio, you take the te$t and mail
it back with a check.

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