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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message k.net... Hey Sweepstakes is my all time favorite contest. Ill be on CW for sure. And maybe phone also. Two diff weekends. Dan/W4NTI This year the CW one falls on my OM's birthday so I may or may not get on it this year. However next year, his birthday is not on the weekend. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"N2EY" wrote in message om... Back before restructuring, the ham who wasn't interested in phone/image had no reason to get an Advanced. And the ham who wasn't interested in CW/data had relatively little reason to get an Extra. 73 de Jim, N2EY Except that I found very early on that a lot of the more interesting DX tended to be in what are the Extra subbands in the US. So I set my sights on getting the Extra for that reason. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
the EXTRA for the EXTRA band segments, probably never will. I mostly use them when I contest and/or chase DX on HF. Thats basically it.. In fact that is why I decided to upgrade years ago. Having the extra license means that I can rove up and down an entire phone band at will, and not having to stop at an advanced or general subband edge. No forbidden ham bands.... And I do rove during contests. I don't compete, but I work the contesters to see how far my signal propagates, etc.... Contests provide a steady stream of short QSOs. |
Dick Carroll wrote:
You view the situation as an EE who didn't need to study to work out any of the technical problems on the Extra exam, few that there were. Most applicants have the singleminded goal of passing the exam, and learning beyond that goal is not only unnecessary, it gets in the way of the goal at hand. So they naturally just don't do it. The curent method of testing clearly facilitates that position. I'm a EE, and like any reasonably successful college student, I still made use of the avaliable resources (the question pool) to prepare for the (at the time I took them) elements 4A and 4B. Found a few holes in my knowledge, and filled them in for at least long enough to score well on the tests (missed 1 on 4A, 2 on 4B IIRC). Got the CSCEs, and then the extra on Restructuring Day. Most students only study what is expected to be on the exams. Thus, I could solve calculus exam problems (take the intergral of (csc x^5)/(tan x^2 -1) dx) but I still never got a good understanding of how to use calculus to solve a real world problem. Recently went looking for a "calculus for dummies" type book, but all they had was how to do exam problems. Been there, done that. |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
et... Kim W5TIT wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Dan/W4NTI wrote: I've never thought of it that way Larry, but your 100% correct. Just look at Kim. Speaking of.. I wonder if she's run off again? Her last couple of posts didn't present her in a very good mood. I mean plenty of people think I'm dumm, but I'm hardly ever called dispicable! 8^) I think there may be a pattern here! Did I misspell despicable? Okay by my spell checker! snippage Oh, and I have to ask just to see what your answer is: what "pattern" are you stretching for? Since I've been here, You have gotten really angry (bored?) with someone and quit posting for a while. Then you've returned and started posting again. Nothing sinister here. - Mike KB3EIA - So, you're so into this medium that you're of the belief you can translate actions into behavioral observations? Eh? I just ain't into the medium, Mike. I have gotten "really" angry, eh? You probably need to get away from your keyboard for a while, Mike. Kim W5TIT |
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Could the trend also be called progress?
No its not progress, a better term is Dumbing Down Will it matter after BPL? No it will be the just REWARDS for the No-Coders. |
Dick Carroll wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote: Kim W5TIT wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Dan/W4NTI wrote: I've never thought of it that way Larry, but your 100% correct. Just look at Kim. Speaking of.. I wonder if she's run off again? Her last couple of posts didn't present her in a very good mood. I mean plenty of people think I'm dumm, but I'm hardly ever called dispicable! 8^) I think there may be a pattern here! Did I misspell despicable? Daffy Duck said it best! Sylvester the Cat could do a pretty good "Deeee-shpick-ubble" too! - Mike KB3EIA - |
Kim W5TIT wrote:
So, you're so into this medium that you're of the belief you can translate actions into behavioral observations? Eh? I just ain't into the medium, Mike. I have gotten "really" angry, eh? ? |
Dick Carroll wrote:
But.....how about all the Extras out there who have successfully proceeded through the same system and emerged with so little knowledge that they have no idea of even how to design and build a simple *1/2* wave dipole? With little or nothing beyond the question pools in their libraries, many won't even know how or where to look it up. And when(if) the day comes that won't be required to copy ANY Morse code,one of the most used modes in ham radio, at the most basic speed? Understand that I'm not saying they shouldn't be hams, nor that they shouldn't be allowed some HF access. We all start somewhere. But to allow them licensing into the top echelon of amateurs is ludicrous and negates all that ham radio is supposed to stand for. After I became an Extra, there was a time when I felt a little odd about it. I knew all the test questions, and a lot more, but my operation skills were really not that good. I also saw some Extras both before and after I got my ticket who were really really green, and needed tutoring in some real basics. I mean real operational basics. The half wave/quarter wave dipole thing is no joke, even if we make fun of it. The top level should be just that. As many people find out after they leave college, there is more to life than just taking tests. Experience should count for something. - Mike KB3EIA - |
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