"N2EY" wrote in message
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In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

Yeah Jim.... six meter all mode.

I made a lucky guess.


Probably, but I also had made mention at least once somewhere in the past as
well.



It's hard as hell to use it right now with
the powerline interference in this freakin' county even before they
implement this whole BPL stuff!!!!!

Oh man...they can't even keep the lines quiet without BPL...

Perhaps their own line noise will mess up BPL performance.

We could only hope so! Wouldn't that be the ultimate irony. Using my
shortwave reciever is next to being a futile attempt. Have packed the
damned thing away for that same reason. In the truck, the AM radio can be a
trick to listen to if you are trying to listen to a station that is normally
always 5-9. If you run along a line of powerlines that happen to be
parallel to the roadway for a bit, forget listening to that station for a
while.....


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Ryan, KC8PMX
FF1-FF2-MFR
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"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
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"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

Yeah Jim.... six meter all mode.

I made a lucky guess.


Probably, but I also had made mention at least once somewhere in the past
as
well.



It's hard as hell to use it right now with
the powerline interference in this freakin' county even before they
implement this whole BPL stuff!!!!!

Oh man...they can't even keep the lines quiet without BPL...

Perhaps their own line noise will mess up BPL performance.

We could only hope so! Wouldn't that be the ultimate irony. Using my
shortwave reciever is next to being a futile attempt. Have packed the
damned thing away for that same reason. In the truck, the AM radio can be
a
trick to listen to if you are trying to listen to a station that is
normally
always 5-9. If you run along a line of powerlines that happen to be
parallel to the roadway for a bit, forget listening to that station for a
while.....


--
Ryan, KC8PMX
FF1-FF2-MFR
--. --- -.. ... .- -. --. . .-.. ... .- .-. . ..-. .. .-. . ..-.
.. --. .... - . .-. ...


Tell me about it. I've been fighting with Alabama Power for 4 years. And I
still have noise.

Dan/W4NTI

What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?

BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual
reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with
their
project!

"James Wilson" wrote in message
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What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?


The ARRL website has a recording. It would make things like the PA QSO
party (and other communications) nearly impossible.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"James Wilson" wrote in message
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What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?

The video on the ARRL website shows a couple of BPL variants ...
one that uses SS and another (test area 4) that uses OFDM.
They sound different.

Again, I cannot over-emphasize the importance of making SURE
that complaints of "BPL interference" are REALLY from BPL and
not some other source.

The LAST thing we need now is a bunch of people "crying wolf."
(Real complaints are one thing, crying wolf will only HURT us.)

73,
Carl - wk3c

The LAST thing we need now is a bunch of people "crying wolf."
(Real complaints are one thing, crying wolf will only HURT us.)

73,
Carl - wk3c

Start crying to the FCC about anything. If your Mower quits, call the FCC and
tell them its BPL causing it. Even if BPL is no where near you. If your Tires
go flat or LOW on AIR, tell them you saw Arcing from the Power lines to your
tires and it was BPL that did it. THE MORE COMPLAINTS THE BETTER.

www.arrl.org follow the links.

And yes its much worse than a contest. You wont even hear the contesters.

Dan/W4NTI

"James Wilson" wrote in message
. ..
What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?

BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual
reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with
their
project!

"James Wilson" wrote in message ...
What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified?


The ARRL website is loaded with video and/or audio files which will
clearly demonstrate what the various forms of BPL signals sound like
and the havoc they generate throughout the HF spectrum.

http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/#Video


Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?

If BBL is broadly implemented you won't have to worry about the PAQP.
There won't be a PAQP.


BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual
reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with
their
project!

w3rv

"Brian Kelly" wrote in message
om...
"James Wilson" wrote in message
...
What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it
can
be identified?


The ARRL website is loaded with video and/or audio files which will
clearly demonstrate what the various forms of BPL signals sound like
and the havoc they generate throughout the HF spectrum.

http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/#Video

That helps a lot. I see what was meant by "geiger counter" sound now, as
well as the other sort of noise.

I do have a spectrum analyzer here, so that will help, when the day comes.
At the moment, the only broadband available here is DSL or cable modem,
which have been well-behaved neighbors. I'm using a cable modem now, and I
don't notice anything from it, even when I tune into the bands that it uses.
We have regular overflights scanning for leakage, so it appears that Comcast
is making the effort.

In article ,
says...
What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?

The ARRL web site (www.arrl.org) has a video that can be downloaded that
shows how severe this interference can be. They took a vehicle equipped
with HF equipment and drove around areas where BPL is in use as a test
program. The noise levels are horrendous.

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-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:
Web: http://home.earthlink.net/~kb6ojs_steve