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Old October 11th 03, 03:20 AM
Ryan, KC8PMX
 
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Just found out today listening to a local, reputable radio station that Bay,
Saginaw and Midland Counties in Michigan are going to be "test sites" for
BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with their
project!


Ryan KC8PMX
Midland, Michigan


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Old October 11th 03, 09:30 PM
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"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
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Just found out today listening to a local, reputable radio station that

Bay,
Saginaw and Midland Counties in Michigan are going to be "test sites" for
BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual

reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with

their
project!


Ryan KC8PMX
Midland, Michigan



Go to the sites. Check out the interference. If it's as bad as they say,
write the local commercial radio stations to say they are being interfered
with, write your congressman, and write the FCC.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Old October 12th 03, 12:12 AM
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
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Just found out today listening to a local, reputable radio station that

Bay,
Saginaw and Midland Counties in Michigan are going to be "test sites"

for
BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual

reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with

their
project!


Ryan KC8PMX
Midland, Michigan



Go to the sites. Check out the interference. If it's as bad as they say,
write the local commercial radio stations to say they are being interfered
with, write your congressman, and write the FCC.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Exactly, must sent in complaints. Or the 'utilities' will say...."we got
very few complaints"

Dan/W4NTI


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Old October 12th 03, 01:32 AM
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Exactly. Also, don't just complain to the utilities as they will still deny
getting complaints. I wonder if they are hiring any of the lawyers from the
tobacco companies LOL


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
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Just found out today listening to a local, reputable radio station

that
Bay,
Saginaw and Midland Counties in Michigan are going to be "test sites"

for
BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual

reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with

their
project!


Ryan KC8PMX
Midland, Michigan



Go to the sites. Check out the interference. If it's as bad as they

say,
write the local commercial radio stations to say they are being

interfered
with, write your congressman, and write the FCC.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Exactly, must sent in complaints. Or the 'utilities' will say...."we got
very few complaints"

Dan/W4NTI




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Jim Hampton wrote:

Exactly. Also, don't just complain to the utilities as they will still deny
getting complaints. I wonder if they are hiring any of the lawyers from the
tobacco companies LOL




A CC list for complaints:

*Utility company
*FCC (radio, telecom, and cable depts)
*ARRL
*your congresscritter
*your senator
*your state's PUC (public utilitues commission)
*The senators or congressmen who fund the FCC
*Various broadcasters, particularly those on TV
channels 2, 3, 4 (as these are below 80MHz, the
high end of BPL). Also any shortwave broadcasters
in the USA except VOA (they are not allowed to care
about reception inside the USA).
*NTIA (who we share the 5MHz band with).



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Old October 12th 03, 02:42 AM
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In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

Just found out today listening to a local, reputable radio station that Bay,
Saginaw and Midland Counties in Michigan are going to be "test sites" for
BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with their
project!


Ryan,

If you have a 6 meter rig that can go mobile, you're set up to measure/observe
(and report) BPL interference.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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*your state's PUC (public utilitues commission)



It's PUD around here.



Also any shortwave broadcasters
in the USA except VOA (they are not allowed to care
about reception inside the USA).



Neither are any of them.


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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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Exactly. Also, don't just complain to the utilities as they will still

deny
getting complaints. I wonder if they are hiring any of the lawyers from

the
tobacco companies LOL


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


The aggregate population that will be affected by the interference from BPL
is minimal at best. Even if commercial interest is rolled up into the
collective, there just ins't going to be the appearance of a majority
negative impact on this one.

BPL is a reality.

Kim W5TIT


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Old October 12th 03, 02:43 PM
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"N2EY" wrote in message
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In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

Just found out today listening to a local, reputable radio station that

Bay,
Saginaw and Midland Counties in Michigan are going to be "test sites" for
BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual

reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with

their
project!


Ryan,

If you have a 6 meter rig that can go mobile, you're set up to

measure/observe
(and report) BPL interference.

73 de Jim, N2EY


heh heh. Yeah, and any ham worth being a ham would have a 6-meter rig that
can go mobile so they can measure/observe (and report) BPL interference.
Right?

Ducking
Kim W5TIT


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Old October 12th 03, 04:24 PM
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"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
...
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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Exactly. Also, don't just complain to the utilities as they will still

deny
getting complaints. I wonder if they are hiring any of the lawyers from

the
tobacco companies LOL


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


The aggregate population that will be affected by the interference from

BPL
is minimal at best. Even if commercial interest is rolled up into the
collective, there just ins't going to be the appearance of a majority
negative impact on this one.

BPL is a reality.

Kim W5TIT


There has been at least one posting to one of the amateur newsgroups
referencing an article by an independent economic analyst. He has evaluated
BPL several times over the last 10 years at the request of various clients
and in his opinion it will not really get off the ground regardless of
technical feasibility. The investment exceeds the projected return. Other
means of delivering Broadband are much more cost effective. Only time will
tell though but I hope he is right. Keep in mind that the test sites are
only designed to demonstrate technical feasibility not cost effectiveness.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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