Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/28/2004 4:07 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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It's not my assertion, Brain. I KNOW what "major role" they
play...None.

None at all? Ever? Never?

Nope.

Can YOU prove otherwise?

I've only been asking you for two weeks now to substantiate a similar
claim YOU made, yet you've not been able to pony-up one, single example of how
you are right and I am wrong.

YOU made the assertion they did. You were wrong. That was simple enough
to
admit. But then you LIED about having said it. THAT was foolish.

Lied? I said you got it wrong. That is not lying.

You denied saying you said it.

Denying something to have happened in the face of evidence to the contrary
is lying.

And I am wondering WHERE you "saw" me with "jumper cables and "sodium
penethol", Brain? Hallucinations ARE evidence of being delusional, what
the
"lay" person WOULD call "nuts".

What's next? Bamboo shoots and dripping water?

Whew! You ARE getting a bit delusional! Been watching a bit too many of
those 1940's era WW2 movies, Brain...???

You are so good at this, and you're nuts.

I follow the brown streak and you wish I was...

Eeew. You're not only nuts, you're sick.

So...now you have degrees in both psychiatry AND medicine...?!?!

And if you think "in plain sight" is hiding, well, what can I say?

You're just nuts.

I think the moniker of "nuts" belongs to the guy who thinks none of his
mistruthfulness is apparent to anyone else.

THAT would be YOU.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/28/2004 4:11 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/27/2004 8:37 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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A "smear thread" insinuates that the thread was initiated with the
intent
to mislead or misrepresent some "facts" about the person targeted,
Brain.

That is correct. That would be you.

Nope.

So far, other than correctly pointing out that I make occassional
typos,
you've not been able to successfully disprove anything I've claimed about
you.

It's not a "smear" if it's true. So far you've not produced anything
that
would validate anything YOU have said, nor have you produced anything that
would DISprove anything I have said.

You say I am running and hiding from you. A lie.

Not a lie.

We've spent two weeks trying to get you to answer the question "What
"major role" do unlicensed radio servies play in "emergency comms" as you
stated they did.

You've danced around that.

You say that you're not a bully. Another lie.

Unless you can show me a broken bone or a black eye, I'd say you are again
trying to dodge the questions by trying to make unfounded assertions.

You ask why a 911 operator must answer -all- 911 calls. Then you say
you didn't. Yet another lie.

And I've asked you to please re-post the quote wherein you say I make this
assertion.

You provide the URL to the post, Brain, and if it's othr than what I
represented it to be, I will apologize and take my licks. (No sweat there...)

And that was just this weekend!

Yes...it was...I've asked you to to validate YOUR assertion about 9-1-1
operators.

You haven't done it.

On the otherhand I have reposted not once, not twice, but three times
the post wherein you made claims about "unlicensed" radio services. I offered
to provide MORE if that weren't enough.

You've got a lot of 'splainin to do, but just save it for therapy.

No 'splanin to do, Lucy...It'a ll right there.

Bacause you're nuts.

I'd rather be nuts. That is hard to prove. On the other hand Brian Burke
is a lair, and HE proved that all on his own.

How nuts is that...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/28/2004 4:18 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/27/2004 8:36 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/27/2004 12:47 PM Central Standard Time
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Those darned provrbial vises.

As opposed to the vices you prefer, no doubt.

Which are?

A propensity to humiliate yourself in public, for one.

And they obviously ARE being squeezed, because you keep hollering
at
me.

Ooh, Ouch, Ooh, Ouch!

No, no, not the jumper cables.

The LPN of Torture is putting it to me. Ooh, Ouch.

hihi

You're nuts.

After reading what you just posted, Brain, who do you think would get
THAT
vote...?!?!

It was comedy aimed at your stoopid assertions of "fiction."

No...I think not.

It was fiction. Fantasy. The attempts of the cornered mind to try and
wiggle out of a rapidly-narrowing corner.

"I am laughing at the superior intellect".

Steve, K4YZ

You shouldn't. You should seek help as advised.

But Brain...You and Lennie ARE the "superior intellect" that I am laughing
at.

You DO make it sooooooooooo easy to do!

Steve, K4YZ

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(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/27/2004 8:37 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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A "smear thread" insinuates that the thread was initiated with the
intent
to mislead or misrepresent some "facts" about the person targeted,
Brain.

That is correct. That would be you.

Nope.

So far, other than correctly pointing out that I make occassional
typos,
you've not been able to successfully disprove anything I've claimed about
you.

It's not a "smear" if it's true. So far you've not produced anything
that
would validate anything YOU have said, nor have you produced anything that
would DISprove anything I have said.

You say I am running and hiding from you. A lie.

You say that you're not a bully. Another lie.

You ask why a 911 operator must answer -all- 911 calls. Then you say
you didn't. Yet another lie.

And that was just this weekend!

You've got a lot of 'splainin to do, but just save it for therapy.

Bacause you're nuts.

...and perverse. :-)

Poor fella don't never seen no old Bell System documents, read the
Bell System Technical Journal, look at the FCC Common Carrier
Bureau documents and regulations, or even see standards of the
"baby bells" such as SBC. He read his QST and now he is the
master of his queen's nay-vee.* :-)

For an ace pilot with the CAP I'm surprised the paralegal gunnery
snurf didn't whoop and holler about "FAR" also being an acronym
for Federal Air Regulations. :-)

Of course, "FAR" or "DFAR" or "COR" or "CAP" has not much to
do with ham radio or whether or not it is a "service" but they are
mad as heck and aren't going to take it anymore! :-)

I wonder if those three (or four) angry-as-heck amateur radio gods
are ever going to get over their perverse personality conflicts with
anyone who disagrees with them? I doubt it. Medical science
can only do so much...

BTW, I've been at two amateur radio repeater sites, laid hands on
the equipment in the presence of other hams who were actually
nice, cordial and everything. Obviously they haven't had Article 15
thrown at them by the paralegal gunnery nurse wearing his pilot
googles and olive USMC tee-shirt with "Temper Fry" on the back.

It's not a pretty sight... :-(

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(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/27/2004 8:44 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/27/2004 9:01 AM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/26/2004 9:39 PM Central Standard Time
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You think I am nuts becasue I won't let you get away with stupid
assertions that you can't/won't back up with some valid facts.

No. Read it again (and again if you have to). I think you're nuts
because you act nuts.

I've read it thoroughly. Repeatedly, even.

Again, the onlything "nuts" I see in MY behaviour is demonstrating
any
expectation that YOU would actually do any of the things asked of you.

THAT is nuts.

Just like I said, you're nuts.

Put away the sodium penethol and jumper cables.

It just isn't going to work.

You'll never make me love Morse Code.

I don't care if you ever do or not. I'd just as well keep idiots
like
you
out of the narrowband parts of the spectrum.

I just want you to answer "What "major role" do the unlicensed
radio
services play in "emergency comms", as you have suggested they do.

You tell me.

It's not my assertion, Brain. I KNOW what "major role" they
play...None.

None at all? Ever? Never?

YOU made the assertion they did. You were wrong. That was simple enough
to
admit. But then you LIED about having said it. THAT was foolish.

Lied? I said you got it wrong. That is not lying.

And I am wondering WHERE you "saw" me with "jumper cables and "sodium
penethol", Brain? Hallucinations ARE evidence of being delusional, what
the
"lay" person WOULD call "nuts".

What's next? Bamboo shoots and dripping water?

And so far all you've done is rum and hide from answering
questions
about
YOUR assertions.

Yup, rumming and hiding.

My bad on the typo, but I think you got the idea.

Dunno if I do or not.

Lack of situational awareness. Another symptom of possible delusional
circumstances.

Am I hidden well enough for you to keep from finding me?

Nope.

Oh darn, you keep finding me right after I reply to you! How do you
do it?

I follow the stench.

You are so good at this, and you're nuts.

I follow the brown streak and you wish I was...

Eeew. You're not only nuts, you're sick.

And if you think "in plain sight" is hiding, well, what can I say?

You're just nuts.

...and perverse. :-)

William wrote:


Stern has been hard pressed to come up with something funny since he
can't talk about F anymore.

Which exposes that he wasn't particularly funny in the first place.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 3/27/2004 11:45 PM Central Standard Time
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In article ,
(William) writes:


Mike Coslo wrote in message
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William wrote:


(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message

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How does a citizen call a 911 operator on a radio?

I press 911 on my HT.

- Mike KB3EIA -

I'll try it with my handheld before I turn in this evening.

I think Mike needs to consult one of his many charts. He seems
to be confusing his HT with his cell phone.


I think Lennie is making more assinine statements without the knowledge to
back it up.

One of the repeaters in my area also responds directly to a 9-1-1 input on
DTMF. No other "access tones" or anything else necessary...Of course you get
the 9-1-1 operator for that prefix, but it's a 10 second delay awaiting the
hand-off.

Our repeater has better coverage than cell phones in the area and
covers much area that doesn't have cell phone coverage *at all*. It's a
very advanced system, with several sites that poll each other for the
best signal from you, and send the strongest to the main repeater site.
So if you want to be prepared to call 911 from a wireless system in our
area, you are much better off to use our repeater system.

The only disadvantage is that the phone identifies itself to the
operator as being at the location of the repeater, so you have to
identify your position.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 3/28/2004 7:08 PM Central Standard Time
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In article ,
(William) writes:

And if you think "in plain sight" is hiding, well, what can I say?

You're just nuts.

...and perverse.

"Perverse"...?!?!

I'm not the one leaving the brown streaks in public, Lennie...Your
puppetboy is.

Come to think of it...Isn't that about where your hand slides in to work
the head and jaw...?!?!

Don't eat before you wash that hand!

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 3/28/2004 7:08 PM Central Standard Time
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BTW, I've been at two amateur radio repeater sites, laid hands on
the equipment in the presence of other hams who were actually
nice, cordial and everything. Obviously they haven't had Article 15
thrown at them by the paralegal gunnery nurse wearing his pilot
googles and olive USMC tee-shirt with "Temper Fry" on the back.

What an imagination, Lennie...

Or is it delusional...?!?!

(I particularly like the "laid hands on" part...A bit of the Jim Bakker
syndrome, no doubt...)

It's not a pretty sight...

You mean seeing what an alleged professional has turned into in his waning
yeas...?!?!

For once you'd be right.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 3/28/2004 8:51 PM Central Standard Time
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William wrote:


Stern has been hard pressed to come up with something funny since he
can't talk about F anymore.

Which exposes that he wasn't particularly funny in the first

BAM! Hammer on head.

If you get rid of the "f" word and any ribald reference to the female
form, and Howard Stern is just another baritone late night oldies DJ.

Funny, though, that most of the people who are NOW dropping the hammer on
him are the SAME people who laughed at him a 10-15 years ago, but NOW have
children of thier own and don't want THEM exposed to that kind of filth ! ! ! !

73

Steve, K4YZ