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William wrote:

Hah, funny one. I've seen amateur towers fall over. It can be months
or years if they're ever replaced at all.

Even if my tower should fall over, I can string up antennas and be back
on the air in hours of not minutes. Can you do that with your cell phone?

Of course he can't

Cell phones need towers to operate?

My wife and I keep our cell phone in the car's glove compartment.
Hasn't fallen yet. :-)

However, if there's a NEED to operate on HF from a disaster area,
I'd rather depend on an Army National Guardsman walking into it
carrying an AN/PRC-104 HF transceiver. No tower needed. Whip
antenna is tuned by a built-in automatic antenna coupler anywhere
in the HF spectrum. Thousands of them operational since before
1986.

LHA / WMD

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William wrote:


Hah, funny one. I've seen amateur towers fall over. It can be months
or years if they're ever replaced at all.


Even if my tower should fall over, I can string up antennas and be back
on the air in hours of not minutes. Can you do that with your cell phone?



Of course he can't

You mean if the little antenna falls off a cellular telephone, I can't
replace it with a paper clip?

Did the laws of physics change?

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Question: Are there more cell towers in America than there are
Amateur Radio Licensees?


Don't know, but if we fall over in an eartquake we just get back
up...

Hah, funny one. I've seen amateur towers fall over. It can be
months or years if they're ever replaced at all.


I wasn't talking about our towers, though, was I? I have one I've
never put up. The point is that, for example, we can communicate in
and out of a disaster area on HF SSB, for example, without needing a
tower. Doesn't happen every day, but that's something to be thankful
for.

True enough. People might be able to use cellular phones to do the
same.


Exactly. Might or might not.

Just like an amateur may or may not be able to help.

William wrote:

Alun wrote in message . ..

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William wrote:



Hah, funny one. I've seen amateur towers fall over. It can be months
or years if they're ever replaced at all.


Even if my tower should fall over, I can string up antennas and be back
on the air in hours of not minutes. Can you do that with your cell phone?



Of course he can't


You mean if the little antenna falls off a cellular telephone, I can't
replace it with a paper clip?

Did the laws of physics change?

No they did not, which means those cell towers can fall over as well.
Your paper clip isn't going to help much when the cell tower is out of
commission. Think you can communicate with you little cell phone if the
tower is down? As Alun stated, hams don't need a tower, a tall tree,
from the apex of the roof, just any support that will get the antenna up
in the air and we are back on. Not so with your cell phone, if the tower
is down (dosen't even have to be physically down, just off the air) and
your cell phone makes a good paper weight.

In article ,
(William) writes:

Even if my tower should fall over, I can string up antennas and be back
on the air in hours of not minutes. Can you do that with your cell phone?

Of course he can't

You mean if the little antenna falls off a cellular telephone, I can't
replace it with a paper clip?

Did the laws of physics change?

Well, somebody may have envisioned falling off a tower while USING
a cell phone. Guaranteed that such would not require any real
emergency people... :-)

The Law of Imagination keeps changing all the time, all the
Believers thinking they are radio minutemen defending ignorant
savage civilians against the elements of disaster. Every ham a
hero! :-)

LHA / WMD

Alun wrote in message . ..
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William wrote:


Hah, funny one. I've seen amateur towers fall over. It can be months
or years if they're ever replaced at all.


Even if my tower should fall over, I can string up antennas and be back
on the air in hours of not minutes. Can you do that with your cell phone?



Of course he can't

And even if he could he wouldn't know who to get authorization from to operate!

Steve, K4YZ

Len Over 21 wrote:



The Law of Imagination keeps changing all the time, all the
Believers thinking they are radio minutemen defending ignorant
savage civilians against the elements of disaster. Every ham a
hero! :-)

Not every ham lennyboy, but some have been. You ever been? I thought
not. No go tell the nurse you need your diaper changed and you will be
ready for your afternoon nappy.

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William wrote:

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William wrote:



Hah, funny one. I've seen amateur towers fall over. It can be months
or years if they're ever replaced at all.


Even if my tower should fall over, I can string up antennas and be back
on the air in hours of not minutes. Can you do that with your cell phone?



Of course he can't


You mean if the little antenna falls off a cellular telephone, I can't
replace it with a paper clip?

Did the laws of physics change?

No they did not, which means those cell towers can fall over as well.
Your paper clip isn't going to help much when the cell tower is out of
commission. Think you can communicate with you little cell phone if the
tower is down?

I'll make a tiny yagi. It will reach the next tower. That is, unless
the laws of physics has changed.

As Alun stated, hams don't need a tower, a tall tree,
from the apex of the roof, just any support that will get the antenna up
in the air and we are back on.

Riiight! Different law of physics again.

Not so with your cell phone, if the tower
is down (dosen't even have to be physically down, just off the air) and
your cell phone makes a good paper weight.

And when your ham radio goes off the air? Is it a good paper weight?