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Dave Heil March 17th 04 12:22 AM

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo writes:

Dave Heil wrote:
Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:


If I may be so direct, it's because he can rely on a good row with
Steve and you. I understand your rationale, but he'll be happy to fight
with y'all as long as y'all are happy to fight with him. just newsgroup
BPL. 8^)


You're right in one way, Mike. Mr. FS wants to Put Me Down.


What's with the "Put Me Down"? I don't think that highly of you. Just
plain old "put me down" would suffice. Oh, and I'm not Mr. Field
Strength, Loon.

It's his way of asserting control over this automotive chat room.


This is a newsgroup, not a chat room. If I had control over it, you
certainly wouldn't be posting here.

He's tried all sorts of ways to put me down and hasn't yet
succeeded. It must be terribly frustrating that he doesn't Get
His Way.


You must not be paying attention. You've been easily had easily and
recently. I just love a good Los Angeles Marathon tale.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil March 17th 04 12:24 AM

N2EY wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:


If someone like him moved next
door to me, I'd give serious thought to planting a "For Sale" sign on my
lawn--or maybe I'd just paint my house lavender and put in a yard full
of pink plastic flamingos.

Did you ever see the John Waters film by that name?


No. Then again, I was away for a long time.

Dave K8MN

JJ March 17th 04 02:50 AM

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

I hate to agree with Len. But he is right on this one.

Dan/W4NTI


Gotta admit too Dan, and give Len credit here, he makes a very good point.



Len Over 21 March 17th 04 03:47 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...

You know, Loon, you're not wrapped very tightly.


Then it all balances out. Some here are wrapped too tightly.


Some have NO wrapping at all...as in the old tale of "The
Emperor's New Clothes." :-)

The fella who didn't know what or who an Iowa tourist location
was is too full of anger and resentment to be able to "wrap
himself" or exhibit any sense of humor. Everything has to be
"wrapped" Just So, nice precise uniform creases to opinions,
all marching in ranks like good little "service" men.

Ho hum...all that about a hobby involving radios...


...and one in which you are not the least bit involved. If it bores you
(ho hum), why do you hang around?


Because you cannot resist commenting.


...and because it doesn't matter what anything Heil says about me
in here. I'm going to continue posting as *I* see fit and Heil is just
so much QRM to work through...until the morse code test is
eliminated. Of course, by that time, I might change my mind and
NOT leave. :-)

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 March 17th 04 03:47 AM

In article . net, "Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

I hate to agree with Len. But he is right on this one.

Dan/W4NTI

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...

You know, I've never needed your assistance in posting my comments to
the FCC before. What made you think I'd need it now?

Dave K8MN

Len stated, "It's also apparent that way too many commenters are
trying to voice their grievances to the FCC in the wrong place."

Len did not state that "David Heil/K8MN is trying to voice his
grievances to the FCC in the wrong place."

What made you think he did?


Mr. Foreign Serviceman thinks that every PUBLIC posting I make is
aimed straight at him and his ego wounds are grievous.

The gunnery nurse thinks every PUBLIC posting I make is aimed
straight at him and he is mad as heck and can't take it any more.

But, over 600 comments have been filed on NOI 03-104 since the
04-29 NPRM was released...over 600 comments that will have no
effect on FCC decision-making on NPRM 04-29.

As of the close of FCC business on 15 March 2004, the number
of comments on 04-29 and 04-37 are the SAME number as on
the close of business on 11 March 2004. No one seems to be
filing anything. Not even FISTS...but then "CW gets through when
nothing else will" according to them and they aren't worried about
Access BPL.

Everyone else seems happy and content with personal in-fighting
in newsgroups instead of going out and DOING anything about
BPL. That shows everyone how "dedicated" they are to preserving
their hobby lifestyles. Dedication = nothing. Imagination and
fantasy = everything.

LHA / WMD


Thank you, Dan.

Checking the FCC website ECFS for 16 March 2004 after the close of
business there (about 8:10 PM EST), there were NO additional
comments filed on 04-29 since 10 March 2004. There were only 2
comments on 04-37 by Lionel Booth, PE, N3LB, MARS AR6IP, and
good old rambling Earl Gosnell III, also a licensed radio amateur.

Booth's comment is good since he is approaching the problem in
broad terms, that of the electric power lines becoming actual RF
radiators. Those affect ALL wanting to use HF to low VHF. It is a
literate document and worth reading the 11 pages on file.

If folks don't want to trouble themselves with engineering details or
EM theory, then at least they ought to scan the Booth document
and say they SUPPORT it...in public...on the ECFS. The FCC
sees all those and considers them for a final R&O.

It isn't difficult to file a comment at the FCC. Anyone can do it
on-line for a short comment, no fancy formatting or word processing
needed. Hundreds have already done so on other subjects. The
FCC has made it EASY for ordinary citizens to comment.

There's no real excuse to sit like lumps in a bog, doing nothing
but on-line newsgroup combat. That won't make Access BPL go
away, won't stop the BPL interference from that power line in
front of the house.

Red-dog the FCC ECFS, hit both 04-29 and 04-37. If anyone goes
to 04-29 and wants to comment based on Booth's comment, then
mention his filing under Et Docket 04-37 for 16 March 2004.

I can understand some who hate my guts for other reasons and
won't want to mention my comments on both 04-29 and 04-37.
But, LIonel Booth filed under 04-37 and he IS a licensed radio
amateur as well as a registered Professional Engineer. At least
reference Booth's comment and SUPPORT it.

LHA / WMD





Hate ARRL March 17th 04 04:59 AM



Citizen Band was created when they started issueing licenses without a CW
requirement.





Tony P. March 17th 04 05:26 AM

In article ,
says...


Citizen Band was created when they started issueing licenses without a CW
requirement.


From someone who entered via no-code and advanced to extra within a year
I take issue with that.

Perhaps the no-code license was the best thing that happened to amateur
radio. It removed an obstacle I wasn't ready to face at the time but
after a couple months I got my 5WPM code. And then a couple months later
my 13WPM and then the 20WMP.

What ticks me off is the watered down code requirement that we have now.
But in essence, we're all appliance operators now anyhow. It doesn't
really matter. And I think the days of amateur radio are numbered what
with BPL and such.


N2EY March 17th 04 10:59 AM

In article , JJ
writes:

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

I hate to agree with Len. But he is right on this one.

Dan/W4NTI


Gotta admit too Dan, and give Len credit here, he makes a very good point.

He's just repeating what ARRL and many of us have been saying for about a year
now - get the facts and comment to FCC in the appropriate places.

73 de Jim, N2EY


William March 17th 04 12:01 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

...and because it doesn't matter what anything Heil says about me
in here. I'm going to continue posting as *I* see fit and Heil is just
so much QRM to work through...until the morse code test is
eliminated. Of course, by that time, I might change my mind and
NOT leave. :-)

LHA / WMD


Sort of like a repeater. He hears sumptin he don't like, and not
being a Control Op, he can't turn off the machine.

Steve Robeson, K4CAP March 17th 04 02:21 PM

(William) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...

Better idea: Paint HIS house lavender and put the flamingoes in
HIS yard...especially when he takes one of his vaunted "road trips"
with Mrs Lennie...Don't forget the metallized fountain ball and the
"carriage boy with lantern" figurine..


73

Steve, K4YZ


Vandalism? An effigy of racism? You're acting out of control again.


Uh huh...

But you guys go ahead with your stomp-fest. It is well deserved. I
mean Lean was waaay off with his date for CB creation. He deserves
what he gets.


I guess you meant "Len", Brain...but another typo, per the
LennieRant of "typo = rage" must mean we're getting under you skin!
Too bad!

Yeah...he does...Offers himself up as a "professional", scolds
EVERYONE for allegedly not knowing about anything not directly Part 97
related, then makes stupid, easily caught errors.

Kinda like you, Brain, without the assertion of "professional".

Steve, K4YZ


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