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N2EY March 18th 04 12:54 PM

In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article , JJ


writes:

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

I hate to agree with Len. But he is right on this one.

Dan/W4NTI

Gotta admit too Dan, and give Len credit here, he makes a very good point.

He's just repeating what ARRL and many of us have been saying for about a
year
now - get the facts and comment to FCC in the appropriate places.


He's setting the stage for making rant fodder out of anybody around
here who doesn't submit a set of commnents to the FCC.

That too! As proved elsewhere, you hit that one dead-on.

The deadline for comments is May 3. Today is March 18. Some of us are already
working on comments. Such serious stuff should not be rushed, though, and need
to be thoroughly proofread and spellchecked. And the comments need to go two
places since two sets of regs are changing.

ARRL has been beating this drum from the first. Full details at

http://www.arrl.org


73 de Jim, N2EY





Steve Robeson, K4CAP March 18th 04 04:18 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Nope, no anger or rage. Len has been working out and now I call him
"Lean."


Actually, I've been out working, not working out.


Doubtful, but we'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one
since "work" is a relative term.

He would praise you for knowing sumptin about about Part 97. Best of
Luck.


He knows it exists. That's a plus. Beyond that, his score isn't
the highest grade on the report card.


MY score on Part 97 isn't the "highest grade"...?!?!


BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
! ! ! ! !

What Lennie DOESN'T know about Part 97 could fill libraries!

Lennie's understanding and comprehension of Amateur Radio
regulations, both in theory and practice have been ripped apart by
more than ONE poster in this forum, and always to his ultimate
detriment.

Sheeeesh!

Steve, K4YZ

Len Over 21 March 18th 04 08:29 PM

In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article , JJ


writes:

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

I hate to agree with Len. But he is right on this one.

Dan/W4NTI

Gotta admit too Dan, and give Len credit here, he makes a very good

point.

He's just repeating what ARRL and many of us have been saying for about a
year
now - get the facts and comment to FCC in the appropriate places.


He's setting the stage for making rant fodder out of anybody around
here who doesn't submit a set of commnents to the FCC.

That too! As proved elsewhere, you hit that one dead-on.

The deadline for comments is May 3. Today is March 18.


You HAVE the Federal Register to "prove" that, do you?

Yesterday, 17 March, there were already 29 comments on
the ECFS.

Some of us are already working on comments.


Mostly for the newsgroup? :-)

Such serious stuff should not be rushed, though, and need
to be thoroughly proofread and spellchecked.


Oh my, Miccolis was one the early birds on 03-104. Did he
"thoroughly proofread and spellcheck" his comment on the
NOI?

And the comments need to go two
places since two sets of regs are changing.


WHICH "two sets of regs?"

The NPRM 04-29 specifically states Part 15 of Title 47 C.F.R.

It concerns incidental radiation, the only thing the FCC can
regulate (with the possible exception of a power line crossing
state boundaries with Access BPL serving more than one state).

WHICH docket is the "correct" one, mighty seer?

ARRL has been beating this drum from the first.


From the "first" what?

Nobody so far has "beat" the National Antenna Consortium and
The Amhearst Alliance on NPRM 04-29 with a 19 Feb 04 filing!
:-)

As of 17 Mar 04, there were 5,731 documents in the ECFS on
NOI 03-104. Did the ARRL file all of those? A "large part" of
those? Are they the "only one" with any sort of "technical
dissertation" about Access BPL and incidental radiation?

Full details at

http://www.arrl.org

NOT EVEN CLOSE TO "FULL DETAILS!"

ARRL is still mentioning NOI 03-104 as if it were a current docket.
Why? It is toast. That NOI is just a digital wastebasket for citizens
getting their complain jollies over with...so they will learn to accept
Access BPL as a given in the future and not complain then.

ARRL can't even (yet) explain why there are TWO dockets on ONE
NPRM. [04-37 and 04-29 for NPRM 04-29]

ARRL hasn't (yet) posted any deadline date on filing for Access
BPL. Why not? Isn't that "important" or something?

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 March 18th 04 08:29 PM

In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,


(Brian Kelly) writes:

He's setting the stage for making rant fodder out of anybody around
here who doesn't submit a set of commnents to the FCC.


Looks like Kellie has already set the stage for his excuses in
not filing a damn thing and will then tawk tuff about nasty
gubmint afterwards.

Kellie tawks tuff all over the place in here. He can't do it to
the FCC? :-)

LHA / WMD


I called that one right on the money didn't I ya PUTZ.


No, all you are doing is TAWKING TUFF...which I "predicted." :-)

Did Kellie file anything on NPRM 04-29? Is he planning to?

Did Kellie file anything on NOI 03-104?

Kellie has all of April to prepare something on 04-29. He won't,
reserving his valuable time to bad-mouthing certain others.

Kellie WANTS BPL to happen?

LHA / WMD

William March 19th 04 02:23 AM

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article , JJ
writes:

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

I hate to agree with Len. But he is right on this one.

Dan/W4NTI


Gotta admit too Dan, and give Len credit here, he makes a very good point.

He's just repeating what ARRL and many of us have been saying for about a year
now - get the facts and comment to FCC in the appropriate places.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Looks like TAFKARJ no longer has the corner on the regulatory
information market. Otta stick to speroni database.

William March 19th 04 02:25 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,


(Brian Kelly) writes:

He's setting the stage for making rant fodder out of anybody around
here who doesn't submit a set of commnents to the FCC.

Looks like Kellie has already set the stage for his excuses in
not filing a damn thing and will then tawk tuff about nasty
gubmint afterwards.

Kellie tawks tuff all over the place in here. He can't do it to
the FCC? :-)

LHA / WMD


I called that one right on the money didn't I ya PUTZ.


No, all you are doing is TAWKING TUFF...which I "predicted." :-)

Did Kellie file anything on NPRM 04-29? Is he planning to?

Did Kellie file anything on NOI 03-104?

Kellie has all of April to prepare something on 04-29. He won't,
reserving his valuable time to bad-mouthing certain others.

Kellie WANTS BPL to happen?

LHA / WMD



Careful, Lean. Kellie might knock your code-key in the dirt.

William March 19th 04 02:32 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

Full details at

http://www.arrl.org

NOT EVEN CLOSE TO "FULL DETAILS!"

ARRL is still mentioning NOI 03-104 as if it were a current docket.
Why? It is toast. That NOI is just a digital wastebasket for citizens
getting their complain jollies over with...so they will learn to accept
Access BPL as a given in the future and not complain then.

ARRL can't even (yet) explain why there are TWO dockets on ONE
NPRM. [04-37 and 04-29 for NPRM 04-29]

ARRL hasn't (yet) posted any deadline date on filing for Access
BPL. Why not? Isn't that "important" or something?

LHA / WMD


Careful, Lean. Once TAFKARJ is toppled, rrap anarchy will follow.

Mitigate the inevitable and have him sign an MOU; he can play King of
the Hill but has to say what you tell him to say.

William March 19th 04 02:37 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

Jimmie has tips on everything. He knows what is, what isn't, who is
right, who is wrong, even what the FCC thinks. Information
technology or IT. He's full of IT. :-)

Yours sincerely,
TNAFKNAMPARRL


TNAFKNAMPARRL, TAFKARJ is about to be toppled.

Time to back-channel a mitigating response.

MSIT A8J.

Authenticate.

Len Over 21 March 19th 04 06:03 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

Jimmie has tips on everything. He knows what is, what isn't, who is
right, who is wrong, even what the FCC thinks. Information
technology or IT. He's full of IT. :-)

Yours sincerely,
TNAFKNAMPARRL


TNAFKNAMPARRL, TAFKARJ is about to be toppled.

Time to back-channel a mitigating response.

MSIT A8J.

Authenticate.


Roger that, Red Dog Leader, you are 5 by 9 all the way.

Would you repeat the last groups? :-)

Red Dog 7 clear.

squeep

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 March 19th 04 06:03 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

Full details at

http://www.arrl.org

NOT EVEN CLOSE TO "FULL DETAILS!"

ARRL is still mentioning NOI 03-104 as if it were a current docket.
Why? It is toast. That NOI is just a digital wastebasket for citizens
getting their complain jollies over with...so they will learn to accept
Access BPL as a given in the future and not complain then.

ARRL can't even (yet) explain why there are TWO dockets on ONE
NPRM. [04-37 and 04-29 for NPRM 04-29]

ARRL hasn't (yet) posted any deadline date on filing for Access
BPL. Why not? Isn't that "important" or something?

LHA / WMD


Careful, Lean. Once TAFKARJ is toppled, rrap anarchy will follow.

Mitigate the inevitable and have him sign an MOU; he can play King of
the Hill but has to say what you tell him to say.


Nevah hoppen, G.I.!

Mr. Southgate will NEVER concede to be told anydamnthing. QED.
He and his court jouster (Mr. Foreign Service) tell others what to say
and when to say it. :-)

Sign a MOU? Him? Might look good in a MOU-MOU though... :-)

"CW gets through when nothing else will" is their credo. Only PCTAs
are "right." All NCTAs are "wrong."

PCTAs are the most civilized of people and they NEVER swear.
NCTAs are all uncouth, ignorant, make mistakes all the time...and
tell bad jokes. :-)

ARRL is perfect all the time, never makes mistakes. [the ARRL
is PCTA]

LHA / WMD


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