Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
Bill Sohl wrote:

Proposed entry level transmitter power is proposed to be 100 watts
when the operation takes place below 24 MHz; 50 watts above. This is the
same as the ARRL proposal.

I still want to see the people (tech's specifically) that have been
harmed by RF.

It makes sense in light of the present rf hazard calcs that we have to perform.

But I've not seen anyone claimed to have been harmed by rf.

William wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in message ...

Bill Sohl wrote:


Proposed entry level transmitter power is proposed to be 100 watts
when the operation takes place below 24 MHz; 50 watts above. This is the
same as the ARRL proposal.

I still want to see the people (tech's specifically) that have been
harmed by RF.


It makes sense in light of the present rf hazard calcs that we have to perform.

But I've not seen anyone claimed to have been harmed by rf.

I was nailed by maybe 50 watts of RF one time on the tip of my finger.
I was tuning up a MFJ tuner, and there was a problem somewhere. The
metal band on the tuner apparently capacitively coupled me to the tuning
cap and shazam! Darned if RF burns don't hurt a LOT.

I think that NCVEC and ARRL and others are missing the boat here. With
the likely disappearance of Morse as a requirement, they are simply
proposing *another* caste system, in which there is an elite, and an
underclass ghetto of people with what to me seem to be radically reduced
privileges. I don't have anything against different levels, but this
seems like too much discrimination.

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , Mike Coslo writes:

I think that NCVEC and ARRL and others are missing the boat here. With
the likely disappearance of Morse as a requirement, they are simply
proposing *another* caste system, in which there is an elite, and an
underclass ghetto of people with what to me seem to be radically reduced
privileges. I don't have anything against different levels, but this
seems like too much discrimination.

It doesn't sit well with you that you are cast with the pro-code caste?

Some hams NEED a caste system just to prove they are "better"
than others, thus fulfilling a self-deficiency.

For a very long time morse code ability was the caste marker,
having no reasonable value except for some to brag that they
were "better" than no-coders.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...all the pro-coders beginning to cry and whine...?

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo writes:

I think that NCVEC and ARRL and others are missing the boat here. With
the likely disappearance of Morse as a requirement, they are simply
proposing *another* caste system, in which there is an elite, and an
underclass ghetto of people with what to me seem to be radically reduced
privileges. I don't have anything against different levels, but this
seems like too much discrimination.

It doesn't sit well with you that you are cast with the pro-code caste?

Some hams NEED a caste system just to prove they are "better"
than others, thus fulfilling a self-deficiency.

For a very long time morse code ability was the caste marker,
having no reasonable value except for some to brag that they
were "better" than no-coders.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...all the pro-coders beginning to cry and whine...?

I have a caste system for you, Len: Everyone who has an amateur radio
license is "in". You're "out".

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...

I have a caste system for you, Len: Everyone who has an amateur radio
license is "in". You're "out".

Dave K8MN

We'll see.

In article ,
(William) writes:

Mike Coslo wrote in message
...
Bill Sohl wrote:

Proposed entry level transmitter power is proposed to be 100
watts
when the operation takes place below 24 MHz; 50 watts above. This is the
same as the ARRL proposal.

I still want to see the people (tech's specifically) that have been
harmed by RF.

It makes sense in light of the present rf hazard calcs that we have to
perform.

But I've not seen anyone claimed to have been harmed by rf.

It might have been Mike or Bill in writing the limits of emission
power in the NECVEC petition.

I just read it through and the ONLY limitation is the NECVEC
modification of 97.313 (c) which states "no station may transmit
with a transmitter power exceeding 200 W PEP on -(2)- the
28.1 - 28.5 MHz segment when the control operator is a Novice
Class operator, a Technician Class operator or a Technician Plus
Class."

If those folks are going to argue about things, they ought to get
their sources in order. The way I see it, Mike Coslo hasn't seen
the NECVEC petition. It's only 9 pages.. They must be arguing
the ARRL petition in the wrong thread. ?

LHA / WMD