Emmersom Bigguns wrote:

"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
link.net...

NCI has NOT been involved in the approval or disapproval
of anyone's book.

As for the possibility that the book is a W5YI pub, well so
what does that mean?

If it is a W5YI pub it is well titled, a book for dummies written by a
dummy.

Bill Sohl wrote:

"JJ" wrote in message
...

Emmersom Bigguns wrote:


"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
rthlink.net...


NCI has NOT been involved in the approval or disapproval
of anyone's book.

As for the possibility that the book is a W5YI pub, well so
what does that mean?

If it is a W5YI pub it is well titled, a book for dummies written by a
dummy.


Its a sure sign of a complete lack of anything rational or logical
to say when individuals resort to name calling.

No cheers,
Bill K2UNK



I have known W5YI personally in the past, he used to be the laughing
stock on the Dallas repeaters.

"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
link.net...
NCI has NOT been involved in the approval or disapproval
of anyone's book.

As for the possibility that the book is a W5YI pub, well so
what does that mean?

It means NCI's dream of a dumbed down Amateur Radio Service has come true.

You folks must be proud, you have given birth to a retarded baby. LOL


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"JJ" wrote in message
...
Emmersom Bigguns wrote:

"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
link.net...

NCI has NOT been involved in the approval or disapproval
of anyone's book.

As for the possibility that the book is a W5YI pub, well so
what does that mean?

If it is a W5YI pub it is well titled, a book for dummies written by a
dummy.

Its a sure sign of a complete lack of anything rational or logical
to say when individuals resort to name calling.

No cheers,
Bill K2UNK

"Emmersom Bigguns" wrote in message
...

"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
link.net...
NCI has NOT been involved in the approval or disapproval
of anyone's book.

As for the possibility that the book is a W5YI pub, well so
what does that mean?

It means NCI's dream of a dumbed down Amateur Radio Service has come true.

You folks must be proud, you have given birth to a retarded baby. LOL

I guess you must believe if you repeat the lie often
enough, you'll get a few people to believe you. Propoganda 101.

No cheers,
Bill K2UNK

JJ wrote in message ...
Emmersom Bigguns wrote:

"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
link.net...

NCI has NOT been involved in the approval or disapproval
of anyone's book.

As for the possibility that the book is a W5YI pub, well so
what does that mean?

If it is a W5YI pub it is well titled, a book for dummies written by a
dummy.

Mebbe he'll author one for you, "Amateur Radio for Jerks."

How is it that you can throw someone else's callsign around, but don't
have one of your own?

Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo writes:


N2EY wrote:

In article et, "KØHB"
writes:



"N2EY" wrote

| Clarification:
|
| I hope that no one considered my post about this book to be
| disparaging in any way. The subject line was chosen to indicate that
| it is a real book, not a parody or photoshop.

I'm disinclined to buy your weak disclaimer, Jim.

My disclaimer is the truth, Hans.

I've used several of the "Dummies" books. I have the one for Microsoft

Office

on my desk at work. I haven't seen a bad one yet.

I have also seen many, many things on the internet passed off as "real" that
look real but which are only photoshops.


Just as you intended, most everyone who saw your chosen subject line
opened the message expecting to find something on the order of "you
ain't gonna believe this crap but it's true".

That's not what I intended at all.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Jim, sometimes people know exactly what you will say and what you mean
even if you never said what they know you meant to say forever!!


What makes you say that? :-)


Oy!


Hold hands to cheeks when you say that. If it's really
astonishing, say "Oy gevalt!"


Oy Karumba?


Possible alternative interpretations:

"Look at this folks! A dummies book about ham radio. Who'd have figured


they would write one of those? Supposedly so few people want to become
Hams, how will they sell any of those books?"


If it isn't published by ARRL it can't be any good, can it? :-)


"Some people in here think that Hams are dummies, and look at this
Dummies book that just came out! Sounds almost like a joke, but it's a
real book!"


Could have been worse...a book printed with a title page and every
other page blank. Real thing. Was on the book market a few years
back.

Did it sell well?



I'm waiting for a similar book with no text content...only morse
code dots and dashes. After all, "morse code is the universal
language." Wouldn't need any translation.


Good luck with your prejudices, Hans and Bill!


Are there codified prejudices now? Standard prejudices?

Makes it easier, I guess.


By photographic evidence in amateur radio periodicals, U.S.
radio amateurs are invariably White Males. Prejudice?

Mostly white males. I've seen the occasional woman show up in a pix.
Less African American men or women. Spanish heritage is fairly common.

There are problems getting *especially* women interested in the
technical fields. On our "Bring your sons and daughters to work day" we
always ask the kids what they want to do for a living. None of the young
ladies have indicated they want to go into engineering yet. A majority
have said they want to be lawyers!

I wonder why. I doubt engineers are more sexist or creepier than any
other subset of males.

When in doubt, blame it on Liberals?? 8^)


- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , Mike Coslo writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo writes:

N2EY wrote:

In article et, "KØHB"
writes:

"N2EY" wrote

| Clarification:
|
| I hope that no one considered my post about this book to be
| disparaging in any way. The subject line was chosen to indicate that
| it is a real book, not a parody or photoshop.

I'm disinclined to buy your weak disclaimer, Jim.

My disclaimer is the truth, Hans.

I've used several of the "Dummies" books. I have the one for Microsoft

Office

on my desk at work. I haven't seen a bad one yet.

I have also seen many, many things on the internet passed off as "real"
that
look real but which are only photoshops.

Just as you intended, most everyone who saw your chosen subject line
opened the message expecting to find something on the order of "you
ain't gonna believe this crap but it's true".

That's not what I intended at all.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Jim, sometimes people know exactly what you will say and what you mean
even if you never said what they know you meant to say forever!!

What makes you say that? :-)

Oy!

Hold hands to cheeks when you say that. If it's really
astonishing, say "Oy gevalt!"

Oy Karumba?

No, "oy gevalt!" [you haven't had enough chicken soup yet]

Possible alternative interpretations:

"Look at this folks! A dummies book about ham radio. Who'd have figured

they would write one of those? Supposedly so few people want to become
Hams, how will they sell any of those books?"

If it isn't published by ARRL it can't be any good, can it? :-)

"Some people in here think that Hams are dummies, and look at this
Dummies book that just came out! Sounds almost like a joke, but it's a
real book!"

Could have been worse...a book printed with a title page and every
other page blank. Real thing. Was on the book market a few years
back.

Did it sell well?

Unknown. It was on the book market for over a month and actually
received literary comment in the press! Not on content, primarily on
general chutzpah of the "author" and the publishing company.

There's somewhat the same sort of chutzpah on the part of a
certain New England publishing corporation...

I'm waiting for a similar book with no text content...only morse
code dots and dashes. After all, "morse code is the universal
language." Wouldn't need any translation.

Good luck with your prejudices, Hans and Bill!

Are there codified prejudices now? Standard prejudices?

Makes it easier, I guess.

So, you approve of prejudice?

By photographic evidence in amateur radio periodicals, U.S.
radio amateurs are invariably White Males. Prejudice?

Mostly white males. I've seen the occasional woman show up in a pix.
Less African American men or women. Spanish heritage is fairly common.

Much much less of "African-American."

There are problems getting *especially* women interested in the
technical fields. On our "Bring your sons and daughters to work day" we
always ask the kids what they want to do for a living. None of the young
ladies have indicated they want to go into engineering yet. A majority
have said they want to be lawyers!

You would do well - on criticism of gender content in engineering - to
look at the periodicals of the IEEE or ACM in regard to women in
engineering. Particularly in high office positions of the IEEE and ACM.

Notable example: Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett-Packard.

I wonder why. I doubt engineers are more sexist or creepier than any
other subset of males.

When in doubt, blame it on Liberals?? 8^)

Why do you single out engineers? I was not discussing engineers.

Engineers are human. But, engineers are forced to obey the laws
of physics first in order to stay employed as engineers. No physical
laws are changeable by human legislation.

Radio amateurs, by contrast, seem very much inclined to fantasy,
group-think, imagination, and some considerable misogyny as well
as rigid conservatism in standards and practices. Examples of that
have been in here for years.

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo writes:


Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo writes:


N2EY wrote:


In article et, "KØHB"
writes:


"N2EY" wrote

| Clarification:
|
| I hope that no one considered my post about this book to be
| disparaging in any way. The subject line was chosen to indicate that
| it is a real book, not a parody or photoshop.

I'm disinclined to buy your weak disclaimer, Jim.

My disclaimer is the truth, Hans.

I've used several of the "Dummies" books. I have the one for Microsoft

Office


on my desk at work. I haven't seen a bad one yet.

I have also seen many, many things on the internet passed off as "real"

that

look real but which are only photoshops.


Just as you intended, most everyone who saw your chosen subject line
opened the message expecting to find something on the order of "you
ain't gonna believe this crap but it's true".

That's not what I intended at all.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Jim, sometimes people know exactly what you will say and what you mean
even if you never said what they know you meant to say forever!!

What makes you say that? :-)


Oy!

Hold hands to cheeks when you say that. If it's really
astonishing, say "Oy gevalt!"

Oy Karumba?


No, "oy gevalt!" [you haven't had enough chicken soup yet]


Possible alternative interpretations:

"Look at this folks! A dummies book about ham radio. Who'd have figured

they would write one of those? Supposedly so few people want to become
Hams, how will they sell any of those books?"

If it isn't published by ARRL it can't be any good, can it? :-)


"Some people in here think that Hams are dummies, and look at this
Dummies book that just came out! Sounds almost like a joke, but it's a
real book!"

Could have been worse...a book printed with a title page and every
other page blank. Real thing. Was on the book market a few years
back.

Did it sell well?


Unknown. It was on the book market for over a month and actually
received literary comment in the press! Not on content, primarily on
general chutzpah of the "author" and the publishing company.

There's somewhat the same sort of chutzpah on the part of a
certain New England publishing corporation...


I'm waiting for a similar book with no text content...only morse
code dots and dashes. After all, "morse code is the universal
language." Wouldn't need any translation.


Good luck with your prejudices, Hans and Bill!

Are there codified prejudices now? Standard prejudices?

Makes it easier, I guess.


So, you approve of prejudice?


By photographic evidence in amateur radio periodicals, U.S.
radio amateurs are invariably White Males. Prejudice?

Mostly white males. I've seen the occasional woman show up in a pix.
Less African American men or women. Spanish heritage is fairly common.


Much much less of "African-American."


There are problems getting *especially* women interested in the
technical fields. On our "Bring your sons and daughters to work day" we
always ask the kids what they want to do for a living. None of the young
ladies have indicated they want to go into engineering yet. A majority
have said they want to be lawyers!


You would do well - on criticism of gender content in engineering - to
look at the periodicals of the IEEE or ACM in regard to women in
engineering. Particularly in high office positions of the IEEE and ACM.

Notable example: Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett-Packard.


I wonder why. I doubt engineers are more sexist or creepier than any
other subset of males.

When in doubt, blame it on Liberals?? 8^)


Why do you single out engineers? I was not discussing engineers.

Engineers are human. But, engineers are forced to obey the laws
of physics first in order to stay employed as engineers. No physical
laws are changeable by human legislation.

Radio amateurs, by contrast, seem very much inclined to fantasy,
group-think, imagination, and some considerable misogyny as well
as rigid conservatism in standards and practices. Examples of that
have been in here for years.

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo writes:


Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo writes:


N2EY wrote:


In article et, "KØHB"
writes:


"N2EY" wrote

| Clarification:
|
| I hope that no one considered my post about this book to be
| disparaging in any way. The subject line was chosen to indicate that
| it is a real book, not a parody or photoshop.

I'm disinclined to buy your weak disclaimer, Jim.

My disclaimer is the truth, Hans.

I've used several of the "Dummies" books. I have the one for Microsoft

Office


on my desk at work. I haven't seen a bad one yet.

I have also seen many, many things on the internet passed off as "real"

that

look real but which are only photoshops.


Just as you intended, most everyone who saw your chosen subject line
opened the message expecting to find something on the order of "you
ain't gonna believe this crap but it's true".

That's not what I intended at all.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Jim, sometimes people know exactly what you will say and what you mean
even if you never said what they know you meant to say forever!!

What makes you say that? :-)


Oy!

Hold hands to cheeks when you say that. If it's really
astonishing, say "Oy gevalt!"

Oy Karumba?


No, "oy gevalt!" [you haven't had enough chicken soup yet]


Possible alternative interpretations:

"Look at this folks! A dummies book about ham radio. Who'd have figured

they would write one of those? Supposedly so few people want to become
Hams, how will they sell any of those books?"

If it isn't published by ARRL it can't be any good, can it? :-)


"Some people in here think that Hams are dummies, and look at this
Dummies book that just came out! Sounds almost like a joke, but it's a
real book!"

Could have been worse...a book printed with a title page and every
other page blank. Real thing. Was on the book market a few years
back.

Did it sell well?


Unknown. It was on the book market for over a month and actually
received literary comment in the press! Not on content, primarily on
general chutzpah of the "author" and the publishing company.

There's somewhat the same sort of chutzpah on the part of a
certain New England publishing corporation...


I'm waiting for a similar book with no text content...only morse
code dots and dashes. After all, "morse code is the universal
language." Wouldn't need any translation.


Good luck with your prejudices, Hans and Bill!

Are there codified prejudices now? Standard prejudices?

Makes it easier, I guess.


So, you approve of prejudice?


Oh No! in the context of what I was saying a long time ago when this
was first posted was that Hans and Bill had *their* prejudices in
assuming Jim was posting a disparaging comment in the Subject line.

And remember, If I did approve of prejudice, I wouldn't want it easy.
Remember, I am the whack that likes things to be hard work! 8^)


By photographic evidence in amateur radio periodicals, U.S.
radio amateurs are invariably White Males. Prejudice?

Mostly white males. I've seen the occasional woman show up in a pix.
Less African American men or women. Spanish heritage is fairly common.


Much much less of "African-American."


There are problems getting *especially* women interested in the
technical fields. On our "Bring your sons and daughters to work day" we
always ask the kids what they want to do for a living. None of the young
ladies have indicated they want to go into engineering yet. A majority
have said they want to be lawyers!


You would do well - on criticism of gender content in engineering - to
look at the periodicals of the IEEE or ACM in regard to women in
engineering. Particularly in high office positions of the IEEE and ACM.

Notable example: Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett-Packard.


I wonder why. I doubt engineers are more sexist or creepier than any
other subset of males.

When in doubt, blame it on Liberals?? 8^)


Why do you single out engineers? I was not discussing engineers.

The topic goes where it will. You were discussing Ham radio, which is a
technical hobby. Engineers run to the technical by by nature. And there
seems to be some problem in attracting women to the technical fields.


Engineers are human. But, engineers are forced to obey the laws
of physics first in order to stay employed as engineers. No physical
laws are changeable by human legislation.

Radio amateurs, by contrast, seem very much inclined to fantasy,
group-think, imagination, and some considerable misogyny as well
as rigid conservatism in standards and practices. Examples of that
have been in here for years.


All of them?

- Mike KB3EIA -