RadioBanter - Who are the FISTS members on RRAP?

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 6/1/2004 5:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I said it metaphorically, and explained my rationale for it.

Yet you have not retracted it. You continue to defend the
indefensible.

You have based a whole months worth of trolls on that, and have yet to
disporve any other assertion I have made.

Steve, I have "disporved" your assertions.

You have disproved nothing, Brain.

Brian (not "Brain") has disproved every statement you made that
"MARS is amateur radio."

You have argued the litteral translation of what I said.

There's NO "translation" necessary. DoD Directive 4650.2
establishes MARS as a military radio service...and does it in
English.

I have expounded and explained myself thouroughly.

You've backtracked, backpedalled, rationalized, and outright
LIED trying to make your statement true. Didn't work.

MARS is a military radio service.

You never once referenced the DoD, USA, USAF, or USN
documents to prove your statement.

One reason is that the DoD, USA, USAF, and USN don't
agree with your statement.

MARS is a military radio service.

That you do not seem
to be able top accept anything other than a Kindergarten-level definition is
not my problem.

Incorrect. YOUR problem is that you cannot face reality and
understand the Directives and Regulations of the military.

Shame on you, big burly (but medically-discharged) veteran
of "seven hostile actions."

I don't know why you think this, Brain. All my paperwork says
"Honorable"
on it.

Then why did you claim a "medical discharge" in this very newsgroup?

You've never offered to scan and distribute your "official paperwork"
to prove one way or the other. All we have is your "word" on it.

Given that you can't understand DoD Directives and "interpret" things
to fit your agendas (you call that "lying" but won't admit it of yourself),
nursie's "word" has very little value.

Also, it seems the ONLY person who brings it up is Lennie the Loser.
Lennie, who often feigns disgust at any perceived sleight towards Veterans and
claims to "support and respect any Honorably seperated veteran regardless of
the nature of thier seperation."

[it's "their" and "separation" hostile action hero...]

You are constantly denigrating other veterans that don't agree with
your views of amateur radio. That's not "respect" for others.

As an example, you consistently lower my Army military occupation
specialty to "radio clerk" despite being given the proper MOS and
summary description. I not only have documentation which can be
scanned and forwared in e-mail to interested parties, but I have a
withness in Eugene Rosenbaum, a veteran who served in my Army
unit at the same time I did, plus an interview with Rick Chernitzer
written up in the Pacific Edition of Stars and Stripes military
newspaper in their 10 November 2002 issue on Hardy Barracks,
one of the few remaining U.S. military locations in Tokyo today.
[it's in their website archives] I have no reason to "lie" about any
of that verifiable experience, yet you constantly denigrate that
service.

You consistently denigrate Brian Burke's USAF meteorological
experience and claim his activity in Somalia while on USAF
assignment was "illegal." Everytime you disagree with Brian
Burke, you attempt denigrating him and call him nasty names.

For three weeks you failed to come up with any documents,
even if only ID or nomenclature on your claim that "MARS is
amateur radio." I had to do it for you.

You have consistently displayed ignorance of military
communications by not being able to name one single piece
of communications equipment, either by official nomenclature
or familiar name, things which are well known to those who
have been engaged in that. Both I and Brian Burke have given
some of those names. Your only response has been vague and
insulting along with specious claims that "it is classified." What
we have given is NOT classified and is public knowledge.

However everytime I get His Scumminess backed into yet another corner
with
his OWN words, he rolls this out, thinking it's some supermarket tabloid
headline announcing some great abuse of government funds.

Nursie compares himself with some newsstand publication. The
public is not interested. Nursie stated that he was medically
discharged due to a service related accident, his military career
terminated. Stated in here.

However, nursie claims having passed a flight physical to obtain
a private pilot license and made other claims of physical strength
such as "hiking with [considerable] load" and then claimed on top
of that his medical discharge was disavowed.

We readers don't know what to think anymore since all claims seem
to be contradictory.

If it is, then there's about 3 or more MILLION veterans who are
"abusing" the system.

Numbers from WHAT source? Fantasy Island Hall of Records?

Leonard H. Anderson is a scumbag, Brian. He decries as "patriotic
buffonery" anyone who dares to even remotely mention ANY "service" at ANY
level, yet he also signs many of his posts with an Army service number, the
type of which the Armed Forces hasn't used in almost forty years.

I've given my ARMY Service Number assigned to me as RA16408336.

At that time each military branch had their own service numbers, did
not, as miltary does now, use Social Security numbers.

ASN prefixes denote the kind of service for the Army. An "RA"
prefix (standing for Regular Army) was for those who volunteered.
A "US" prefix (for army of the United States) was for those who
were drafted. An "NG" stood for National Guard. An "O" prefix
was for commissioned officers or commissioned reservists [the
First Sergeant of C Company, FEC Sig Svc Bn, was a reserve
Captain and his ASN stood out among all the other NCOs].

The draft ended in 1975, 29 years ago. The U.S. military is
entirely voluntary now.

His verbosity and ability to wordsmith his posts does NOT make him
right...It just makes him LOUD.

By showing the proper references, that makes me CORRECT.

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

MARS is a military radio service.

There are no MARS regulations in Title 47 C.F.R. Had it been
amateur radio, it would have been so noted in Part 97. It is not.

Department of Defense causes MARS to be a military radio
service through Directive 4650.2, effective 21 Nov 03.

He's an idiot...but YOU have voluntarily linked your fortunes to him,
which makes you even MORE laughable.

Nursie is continuing with consistent personal insults and attempted
denigration of anyone who disagrees with his fantasies and
opinions.

Nursie should admit that he was wrong in his statement that
"MARS is amateur radio." It is not. Nursie is wrong.

Nursie is without honor. QED.

LHA / WMD