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Len Over 21 May 27th 04 04:25 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

Steve, Dave, Bruce, Larry, Kelly, and Dick represented the very worst
in the ARS via their RRAP postings. They thought they meant well, for
the good of all involved, but it eventually evolved into war crimes.
Some people just don't know when to quit. Meanwhile, Jim is like the
benevolent senior looking on as the thugs committed atrocities, but
had "no opinion."

Please don't judge the rest of us by Steve's actions or even his seven
hostile actions (of self abuse).


I don't. :-)

LHA / WMD

Steve Robeson K4CAP May 27th 04 07:15 PM

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/25/2004 6:20 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


But only to those capable of rational thought. Fantasy fliers with
too much P-51 time in their frequency flyer program aren't capable
of rational thought.

P-51's are great, but not my idea of a "fantasy flight".

REAL private pilots are acquainted with the term "P-51 time." That's
a nastyphrase of those private pilots who LIE in their log-books
by writing in more time than they really have...using a Parker 51
pen.


Well, in as much as I know what would happen to me if it was determined
that I had falsified my logbook, I've never made an entry that wasn't
preceeded by an actual flight or logable training with a CFI or CGI.


Riiiiiight...just like you did all that "SSB" in VHF and UHF ham
bands.


Lennie...WHAT is the prefered voice mode for most of the satellites?

And what mode is prevelent below 144.400?

Especially between 144.100 and 144.250?

No experience = flawed opinions.

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP May 27th 04 07:21 PM

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:


Nursie hasn't produced even ONE photo of his described duty with
the 3rd Marine Division.


I've never described any duty with 3rdMARDIV. I was never a part of
3rdMARDIV. Never said I was.


3rd Marine Division is based on Okinawa. You said you were there.

OK, so we've established you were never on Okinawa.


Lennie....I was ALWAYS an airwinger in the USMC.

Now...GO BACK and do some MORE websurfing and see if your immense
websurfing talents can figure out how I was on Okinawa and NOT a part of 3rd
MARDIV.

Sheeeeeesh....what an idiot.

Steve, K4YZ







Steve Robeson K4CAP May 27th 04 07:23 PM

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 5/27/2004 10:25 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(William) writes:

Steve, Dave, Bruce, Larry, Kelly, and Dick represented the very worst
in the ARS via their RRAP postings. They thought they meant well, for
the good of all involved, but it eventually evolved into war crimes.
Some people just don't know when to quit. Meanwhile, Jim is like the
benevolent senior looking on as the thugs committed atrocities, but
had "no opinion."

Please don't judge the rest of us by Steve's actions or even his seven
hostile actions (of self abuse).


I don't.


Good for you, Lennie.

Minus the Amateur license, you're in the same pile.

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP May 27th 04 07:41 PM

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/26/2004 7:28 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


Robert asks you a question about Amateurs operating on military
frequencies for military purposes and YOU respond with some assinine

statement
about "most municipal radio operators" wearing police uniforms.


So?


"So?", indeed.

That in ITSELF is completely foolish since police departments are only

a
fractional part of most municipal payrolls. There's the Fire Department,

EMS,
Department of Sanitation, the utilities departments, roads and highways,
etc...all of whom hav SOME sort of radio service that they use.


Does it make them Policemen? Does it make them MARS Ops?


Does it make any difference to you that youw ere AGAIN shown to have been
wrong?

Does it make any difference to you that it's an easy thing to do?

Remember, Brain, YOU are the one who set the "precedent" that if there

is
even ONE example to the contrary, you have been proven WRONG.


I kindly direct you to the word, "most" in my response.


I see that.

That's what's wrong, PuppetBoy.

The police department does NOT constitute the "most" of any municipal pool
of employees. Even in the smallest towns that I have lived in the police force
represented, at the MOST, 1/4th of the municipal payroll.

YOU said that MOST "municipal radio operators (wore) police uniforms".

That is wrong. Even in YOUR community.

Would you say that "most" means, "is" or "equal to?"


Now...HOW did you go from discussing operating on military frequencies

to
"municipal radio operators"...?!?!


How did you go from MARS to Amateur Radio?


MARS is dependent upon Amateur Radio. No Amatuer Radio = No MARS.

Steve, K4YZ






Len Over 21 May 28th 04 01:28 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(William)
Date: 5/26/2004 7:28 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


Robert asks you a question about Amateurs operating on military
frequencies for military purposes and YOU respond with some assinine

statement
about "most municipal radio operators" wearing police uniforms.


So?


"So?", indeed.

That in ITSELF is completely foolish since police departments are

only
a
fractional part of most municipal payrolls. There's the Fire Department,

EMS,
Department of Sanitation, the utilities departments, roads and highways,
etc...all of whom hav SOME sort of radio service that they use.


Does it make them Policemen? Does it make them MARS Ops?


Does it make any difference to you that youw ere AGAIN shown to have
been
wrong?

Does it make any difference to you that it's an easy thing to do?

Remember, Brain, YOU are the one who set the "precedent" that if

there
is
even ONE example to the contrary, you have been proven WRONG.


I kindly direct you to the word, "most" in my response.


I see that.

That's what's wrong, PuppetBoy.

The police department does NOT constitute the "most" of any municipal
pool
of employees. Even in the smallest towns that I have lived in the police
force
represented, at the MOST, 1/4th of the municipal payroll.

YOU said that MOST "municipal radio operators (wore) police uniforms".

That is wrong. Even in YOUR community.

Would you say that "most" means, "is" or "equal to?"


Now...HOW did you go from discussing operating on military frequencies

to
"municipal radio operators"...?!?!


How did you go from MARS to Amateur Radio?


MARS is dependent upon Amateur Radio. No Amatuer Radio = No MARS.


TRY to stay focussed on the SUBJECT.

The "M" in MARS = MILITARY

The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

FCC doesn't define MARS. ARRL doesn't define MARS.

Department of Defense Directive defines MARS.

MARS is a MILITARY system.

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 May 28th 04 01:28 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:


Nursie hasn't produced even ONE photo of his described duty with
the 3rd Marine Division.

I've never described any duty with 3rdMARDIV. I was never a part of
3rdMARDIV. Never said I was.


3rd Marine Division is based on Okinawa. You said you were there.

OK, so we've established you were never on Okinawa.


Lennie....I was ALWAYS an airwinger in the USMC.

Now...GO BACK and do some MORE websurfing and see if your immense
websurfing talents can figure out how I was on Okinawa and NOT a part of 3rd
MARDIV.

Sheeeeeesh....what an idiot.


Nursie's self-proclaimed "career" is NOT the SUBJECT.

It is irrelevant since none of it involved radio communications.

It is as "relevant" as those fictional "hostile actions." :-)

Try to stay focussed on the SUBJECT.

The "M" in MARS = MILITARY

The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 May 28th 04 01:28 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/25/2004 6:20 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

But only to those capable of rational thought. Fantasy fliers with
too much P-51 time in their frequency flyer program aren't capable
of rational thought.

P-51's are great, but not my idea of a "fantasy flight".

REAL private pilots are acquainted with the term "P-51 time." That's
a nastyphrase of those private pilots who LIE in their log-books
by writing in more time than they really have...using a Parker 51
pen.

Well, in as much as I know what would happen to me if it was determined
that I had falsified my logbook, I've never made an entry that wasn't
preceeded by an actual flight or logable training with a CFI or CGI.


Riiiiiight...just like you did all that "SSB" in VHF and UHF ham
bands.


Lennie...WHAT is the prefered voice mode for most of the satellites?


Nursie, satellites don't speak...they use TELEMETRY to "tell" the
ground their status.

And what mode is prevelent below 144.400?

Especially between 144.100 and 144.250?

No experience = flawed opinions.


TRY to stay focussed on the SUBJECT.

The "M" in MARS = MILITARY

The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

FCC doesn't define MARS. ARRL doesn't define MARS.

Department of Defense Directive defines MARS.

MARS is a MILITARY system.

LHA / WMD

William May 28th 04 01:31 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(William)
Date: 5/26/2004 7:28 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


Robert asks you a question about Amateurs operating on military
frequencies for military purposes and YOU respond with some assinine

statement
about "most municipal radio operators" wearing police uniforms.


So?


"So?", indeed.

That in ITSELF is completely foolish since police departments are only

a
fractional part of most municipal payrolls. There's the Fire Department,

EMS,
Department of Sanitation, the utilities departments, roads and highways,
etc...all of whom hav SOME sort of radio service that they use.


Does it make them Policemen? Does it make them MARS Ops?


Does it make any difference to you that youw ere AGAIN shown to have been
wrong?

Does it make any difference to you that it's an easy thing to do?


Does it make them Policemen? Does it make them MARS Ops?

"Sorry Hans, Dispatcher IS MARS."

Hi hi!

Remember, Brain, YOU are the one who set the "precedent" that if there

is
even ONE example to the contrary, you have been proven WRONG.


I kindly direct you to the word, "most" in my response.


I see that.

That's what's wrong, PuppetBoy.


No. It is not. It is not all inclusive, such as your use of the word
"IS."

The police department does NOT constitute the "most" of any municipal pool
of employees. Even in the smallest towns that I have lived in the police force
represented, at the MOST, 1/4th of the municipal payroll.


Oh, I see what you're desperately trying to do.

You're including all of the non-radio users in your computation in an
attempt to find a leg to stand on.

Grasping, grasping; and still sliding downward.

YOU said that MOST "municipal radio operators (wore) police uniforms".

That is wrong. Even in YOUR community.


No, it isn't. We're kind of heavy on LE here.

Would you say that "most" means, "is" or "equal to?"


Now...HOW did you go from discussing operating on military frequencies

to
"municipal radio operators"...?!?!


How did you go from MARS to Amateur Radio?


MARS is dependent upon Amateur Radio. No Amatuer Radio = No MARS.


Sure they are. They use up all them amateur frequencies and rely upon
Riley for enforcement. Subject to Part 97. Hi hi!

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."

Hi hi! Ho ho!

Best of Luck.

William May 28th 04 01:38 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/27/2004 10:25 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(William) writes:

Steve, Dave, Bruce, Larry, Kelly, and Dick represented the very worst
in the ARS via their RRAP postings. They thought they meant well, for
the good of all involved, but it eventually evolved into war crimes.
Some people just don't know when to quit. Meanwhile, Jim is like the
benevolent senior looking on as the thugs committed atrocities, but
had "no opinion."

Please don't judge the rest of us by Steve's actions or even his seven
hostile actions (of self abuse).


I don't.


Good for you, Lennie.

Minus the Amateur license, you're in the same pile.

Steve, K4YZ


Wow Len, I didn't know that you were involved in Seven Hostile Actions
(of self abuse).

Better extract yourself from that pile.


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